Jean Leloup
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AC Tango Experiences?

Sat Dec 29, 2001 4:56 am

Has anyone here had a chance to fly Air Canada Tango yet? I'm supposed to be flying them next week and I'm wondering what I'll be up against - i.e., are they still cancelling a lot of their flights? If a tango flight gets cancelled, do they just put the pax on mainline flights, or what? And are the loads still low, or have they picked up with the demise of C3?

Any insight appreciated!
Next flight.... who knows.
 
gmonney
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RE: AC Tango Experiences?

Sat Dec 29, 2001 7:22 am

I have heard that they are nice....simple and the loads are average....about 80%

My neighbour went to YUL and he said it was great, and really fast...i posted a thread about the flight being like 30 minutes or so.....140mph tail winds or something like that....

Good luck and have fun on your flight....let us know how it was,

Grant
Drive it like you stole it!
 
Dash8King
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RE: AC Tango Experiences?

Sat Dec 29, 2001 7:29 am

I can't believe that your going to support tango! Its people like you who are going to fly Zip and hurt Westjet
 
Jean Leloup
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RE: AC Tango Experiences?

Sat Dec 29, 2001 7:48 am

EXCUSE ME, King? People like me? Tell me, sir, which airline YOU would fly from Toronto to Montreal?
Westjet? Oh yes that's right, they serve neither airport.

hmmm, who else is there?

NO ONE.

Are you saying that I shouldn't take the opportunity to fly, simply because the route is an AC monopoly???
Next flight.... who knows.
 
Dash8King
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RE: AC Tango Experiences?

Sat Dec 29, 2001 7:56 am

Yes that is what I am saying. Even if it is Air Canada it is better the Tango. I know your university student and money is probably tight but in the long run you will benifet.
 
SafeFlyer
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RE: AC Tango Experiences?

Sat Dec 29, 2001 8:03 am

Hey king, I'f I would like to go to YYZ from Ottawa, do you think I would really take WestJet just not to fly AC.
No way
Do you really think that Jean Leloup will not fly because of you. In the east we don't hate AC that much, at least not me.
 
AC_B777
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RE: Dash8King

Sat Dec 29, 2001 8:27 am

Hey man, pack off!!!!
If people want to fly Air Canada or AC Tango, or any other airline, don't you think they have the right to decide for themselves, or do you think that narrow minded people like yourself should decide for them?
Get a life man. Let people support who they want to support!!!!

AC_B777
In life, some days you are the bug..... some days you are the windshield!
 
lymanm
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RE: AC Tango Experiences?

Sat Dec 29, 2001 8:31 am

King - while your devotion to Westjet is admirable (or moronic, depending on your point of view) it is clear that Air Canada, even Tango offers a superior product to the typical traveller. If they were both the same price (and they frequently are), I would always, 100% fly AC. More interesting airplanes, better IFE, more frequency, more complete ground infrastructure and of course Aeroplan miles. And with almost 10 million Aeroplan accounts in Canada, I'm sure the majority of Canadian adults would agree with me (let me know if you fit into that category).

Cheers
buhh bye
 
Dash8King
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RE: AC Tango Experiences?

Sat Dec 29, 2001 9:56 am

Yes that is the only reason I would fly Air Canada is Frequent flyer points or if I had to choose between Air Canada and Tango.

What will you guys be saying if Zip defeats Air Canada? There service has improved over the past few months since the merger but what about when they have no competition? The prices will be doubled and then all of you guys and girls will be complaining I can guaruntee that.
 
Dash8King
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RE: AC Tango Experiences?

Sat Dec 29, 2001 10:01 am

I don't hate Air Canada but I do hate Tango and the new Zip becuase they are aimed at completing one thing defeating competition. Air Canada knows it can not make money on zip but it knows if it defeats Westjet then the money will come pouring in.

Now Tango is not so bad right now but as Westjet expands into Toronto and Montreal then Tango will be a competitor. If Tango is making money on routes where it is competing against Air Canada then maybe Air Canada should just lower there fares and get rid of Tango.
 
spyderz
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RE: AC Tango Experiences?

Sat Dec 29, 2001 12:52 pm

Ya, I flew Tango from YYZ to YVR a couple weeks back. Overall the flight was decent, and I found the service better than charter airlines. The flight was delayed by 15 minutes when the FA's requested more supplies to be brought on (milk), and when the guy with the milk was about to slide the tray into the cart, sure enough there was the milk. You don't get any food, but I had a Harvey's just before so that can do you fine. If u want food on the flight you can, but apparently the lunch pack for 4 dollars is a bit of a ripoff. My actual aircraft was a bit worn, and my seat actually had no tray table, but I didn't need to use it. Seat pitch isn't bad, and depending on the length of the flight, a movie is offered (in my case Rat Race). For the price you pay, you can't go wrong. As for the load factor, my flight was absolutely packed so overhead bin space was at a premium. I had no qualms about the service and Tango in general, and as for Dash8King, I'm flying from Abbotsford to Calagary tommorrow and Westjet and Air Canada had identical fares. I am an Aeroplan member, but I chose Westjet simply because they're better, so slow down those props of yours about not flying Tango.
 
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RE: AC Tango Experiences?

Sat Dec 29, 2001 12:55 pm

Relax, Dash8King. Westjet's odds of survival are excellent, and their prospects for long-term growth, profitability and stability are considerably better than any other significant North American airline, save for Southwest and JetBlue.

What Westjet has going for it is the fact that it is the market leader in the discount air travel market. Market leaders are very rarely defeated by their competitors unless they defeat themselves first, and Westjet shows little sign of doing that.

Witness the fate of every U.S. mainliner that tried to either knock off Southwest or impede its growth. Ditto for Easyjet in the U.K.

 
quebecair727
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RE: AC Tango Experiences?

Sat Dec 29, 2001 1:06 pm

I am not sure but I think I just witnessed some kind of rivalry between eastern and western Canada here.
 
king penguin
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RE: AC Tango Experiences?

Sat Dec 29, 2001 3:19 pm

Quebecair727: You're right, you did...

I'm flying to Winnipeg in a fortnight, and being an Aeroplan menber, would have chosen AC (or even Tango) out of Toronto. But U. Manitoba made the arrangements, so it's WestJet out of Hamilton! Had to laugh about that... Still, saves the trip to Pearson and it's a good airline, so no complaints.

Jean: As far as I've seen, Tango is still cancelling quite a few flights every day; YUL/YOW -> YYZ flights in particular always seem to be amongst those. So who knows what you'll get...

Cheers,

kp


 
VonRichtofen
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RE: AC Tango Experiences?

Sat Dec 29, 2001 3:38 pm

Lymanm: What you say may be true out East, but out West it's a whole different bag. When Westjet first started out most of it's pax were leisure travellers, but that's changing. More businesses are putting their employee's on Westjet (working in a hotel I talk to a lot of people from all over the place). Some of them stick to Air Canada because of Aeroplan, and also because they fly business class.

I prefer Westjet (partly because I'm from YYC). But that doesn't mean I hate Air Canada, I'd like to see all airlines in Canada doing well. Hey I'm a student pilot so I want there to be jobs availible when I'm ready to apply!! One thing however, Air Canada has to improve their luggage handling. Every hotel I've ever worked at had people check in EVERY day saying Air Canada lost their luggage. One guy came all the way from Frankfurt, he was going to stay in YYC for one night and then he was off to Alaska for a fishing trip. Well Air Canada lost his fishing gear!! So he went to the lodge in Alaska with no gear!! You could only get to the lodge via bush plane so it's not like once they did find it they could courier it to him. His whole trip was screwed.

My 2 cents (CDN)

Kris
from YYC
 
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RE: AC Tango Experiences?

Sun Dec 30, 2001 1:19 am

Quebecair727 wrote: "I am not sure but I think I just witnessed some kind of rivalry between eastern and western Canada here."

That's been an ongoing issue in the Canadian airline and aerospace industry for decades: TCA vs. Canadian Pacific Air Lines; Air Canada vs. CP Air, PWA, Canadian and Westjet; Bristol Aerospace vs. Canadair in '86 and the events that followed, etc.

 
SafeFlyer
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RE: AC Tango Experiences?

Sun Dec 30, 2001 5:10 am

And, to complete Mcdougald sentence,
... and it won't change tomorrow.
 
dripstick
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RE: AC Tango Experiences?

Thu Jan 03, 2002 9:32 am

Heard the following today...made me chuckle.

TANGO stands for "Thanks Alot, Now Get Off!
What's another word for thesaurus?

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