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EWR-CDG (CO Double Daily Service)

Sun Dec 30, 2001 10:36 am

Continental suspended its 10:00pm departure to Paris/CDG from Newark after September 11th. This flight was operated with a 767-400 which has since been reassigned to Hawaii service as the DC10 fleet was retired.

On March 30th, 2002, Continental and Air France will end their code-sharing of flights from EWR and IAH to CDG.

Does this mean CO will restore double daily CO service from Newark to Paris or just keep flying a 777 on the one daily flight? I guess without AF, CO won't be sending pax. through CDG to other destinations anymore so a second daily flight may not be needed.

CO and KLM are already code sharing and all systems are go for CO's new nonstop from IAH to AMS, which will complement KL's five weekly 747-300/400 flights. I suppose CO will add 767-200 or 767-400 service from Newark as well, given the connecting opportunities at AMS. Right now, the EWR-AMS flight is a 757.

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RE: EWR-CDG (CO Double Daily Service)

Sun Dec 30, 2001 10:43 am

I think that despite the ending of the codeshare, CDG is still very important to Continentals plans. As Continental doesnt get to transfer passengers through LHR, they transfer almost all passengers bound for Africa and the middle east via CDG. People often talk about LGW and LHR in terms of their location to London Central as the centre of their importance, but the actual reason that LHR is in such demand is actually due to the fact that most connections into Europe, Africa and such are all via LHR. This is the main reason for the demand for slots at LHR. In regards to convenience of access to London, I would fly into LGW every time, it is closer and easier access to London in my opinion

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RE: EWR-CDG (CO Double Daily Service)

Sun Dec 30, 2001 10:44 am

I think that CO will upgrade the EWR-AMS flight to either a 764 or a 772 and will start sending passengers through AMS with their new KL codeshare agreement.

As for the double daily EWR-CDG, I think they would not restore it and they will codeshare on KL´s AMS-CDG flights.

Something like DL and SR, after the alliance was over, DL started codesharing on AF´s CDG-ZRH, CDG-GVA and CDG-BSL flights.
 
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RE: EWR-CDG (CO Double Daily Service)

Sun Dec 30, 2001 10:55 am

CO also benefits from the feed of CDG-origin pax thru-out the US via EWR. SO a 2nd daily EWR-CDG is certainly in the cards.



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RE: EWR-CDG (CO Double Daily Service)

Sun Dec 30, 2001 11:22 am

according to OAG.COM

CO 56/57 EWR-CDG-EWR
Boeing 777-200ER
18:05-07:40+1

CO 54/55 EWR-CDG-EWR
Boeing 767-400
22:05-11:20+1
Eff. May 15

So there you go, also I noticed that AF´s second daily switches a lot from the new 330-200 to 340-300

By the way EWR-AMS is a 767-200ER flight
 
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RE: EWR-CDG (CO Double Daily Service)

Sun Dec 30, 2001 11:31 am

hey thomaskepner the EWR-AMS is a 757-200 flight (CO70)
Believe me I work in CO...
 
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RE: EWR-CDG (CO Double Daily Service)

Sun Dec 30, 2001 11:38 am

I was watching on OAG.COM that for the summer they upgrade EWR-AMS to a 762, that´s what I mean
 
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IAH-AMS Quick Correction

Sun Dec 30, 2001 5:37 pm

IAH-AMS is flown by KLM daily, not five times weekly, and always on 747-400s, usually combis but more and more often full pax.

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RE: EWR-CDG (CO Double Daily Service)

Sun Dec 30, 2001 7:16 pm

IAH-AMS will also see an CO 767-200 as of next May.

BTW why would CO use CDG for African/Middle Eastern destinations if they can use AMS for the same purpose?

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RE: EWR-CDG (CO Double Daily Service)

Sun Dec 30, 2001 7:22 pm

TOMASKEMPNER, Delta still has their own non-stop flight to ZRH daily from ATL. You seem to imply that Delta only offers code share service to ZRH.
 
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RE: EWR-CDG (CO Double Daily Service)

Mon Dec 31, 2001 1:50 am

Minor correction - actually the codeshares between CO and AF for flights beyond CDG to Africa, Middle East, etc., have already been dropped - can't remember when but I think it was last winter. Right now, they only codeshare on the CDG-EWR and CDG-IAH flights.
As for the 2nd EWR-CDG flight coming back, I guess it will all depend on whether demand picks up in the spring...
 
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RE: EWR-CDG (CO Double Daily Service)

Mon Dec 31, 2001 2:17 am

As of April 7th, AMS should no longer see the 757.

4/7 begins EWR-AMS with a 762, which continues through the summer and early fall until October 27, at which point a 767-400 will take over.

As for IAH, the service to AMS will actually begin with a 767-200 on May 1, then on October 27 will switch to a 767-400 along with EWR, which will coincide quite nicely with the commencement of the new CO/KL alliance.

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