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VEX&DAT Perhaps To Merge. What Name You Choose?

Sun Dec 30, 2001 11:14 pm

Virgin Express and DAT seems to go for a merge towards a new Belgian carrier. I know we have this discussed before but what kind of airline name do you think sir R. Branson will choose and what company name would you suggest?

All the best for 2002!!

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RE: VEX&DAT Perhaps To Merge. What Name You Choose?

Sun Dec 30, 2001 11:25 pm

Hmmm, what about VG Europa for VEX and VG Airlines for DAT?  Big grin Big grin  Big grin
 
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RE: VEX&DAT Perhaps To Merge. What Name You Choose?

Sun Dec 30, 2001 11:32 pm

VirGin Express and V(ir)G(in) Airlines???? Or just a coincidence?

Regards
Laurens
 
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RE: VEX&DAT Perhaps To Merge. What Name You Choose?

Sun Dec 30, 2001 11:50 pm

... as long as it's not Sabena! Big grin  Big thumbs up Big grin
 
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RE: VEX&DAT Perhaps To Merge. What Name You Choose?

Mon Dec 31, 2001 12:20 am

What about Virgin Europe?

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RE: VEX&DAT Perhaps To Merge. What Name You Choose?

Mon Dec 31, 2001 1:26 am

Got it!!
How about..........Eurobelgian Airlines.

Oooohhh no, silly me - thats what Virgin Express used to be called!

How about.........'New Belgian Airlines'
 
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RE: VEX&DAT Perhaps To Merge. What Name You Choose?

Mon Dec 31, 2001 1:36 am

If the merging take place I'm sure the Virgin name will disappear (Branson will have a minority in the new airline and Virgin is his mark)
I don't think they will name the airline Sabena but it is a famous name especially in Africa, more economic and a good way to not see Ceilidh in their planes  Innocent
I see more job for you in a near futur AirOrange, or maybe, as Ceilidh said, you have already created the livery of the airline.

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RE: VEX&DAT Perhaps To Merge. What Name You Choose?

Mon Dec 31, 2001 1:45 am

Ceilidh,

Not everyone shares your opinion about Sabena. Unfortunately SABENA now stands for...

Such A Beautiful Experience Never Again.

Names?

How about Sabena's Virgin Laugh out loud

or Virgin World Airlines.
SUPPORT THE LEBANESE CIVILIANS
 
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RE: VEX&DAT Perhaps To Merge. What Name You Choose?

Mon Dec 31, 2001 1:45 am

Ceillidh why not? They probably still have the SN stationary and all the advertising can be recycled. Moreover, they don't need new uniforms for the employees. Only drawback that this brand now has a bad "history".

BTW why not call it just DAT (allthough I admit this will create problems with the Wallons). Everybody knows the airline by now (thanks to the free publicity Lippens and Davignon create).

Regards
Laurens
 
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RE: VEX&DAT Perhaps To Merge. What Name You Choose?

Mon Dec 31, 2001 2:18 am

European Airline (EA)
European Express
Virgin Europe (Virgin Atlantic)
Crystal Express (something clear not like SN)
West European Airline (WEA)
United European Airline
Belgium World Express
Eurowest
Worldlinks...
 
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BEA.... Ceilidh And Lj

Mon Dec 31, 2001 4:00 am

BEA: Belgian European Airways (Not "British..." like in the past)
BWA: Belgian World Airlines (slogan of Sabena)
Virgin Continental <> Virgin Atlantic
Definitely not Sabena

Ceilidh and Lj,

I am still thinking in the same direction as you both do: VG and Virgin they might go together if they are smart and leaving Davignon and Lippens behind with an empty bag (or a full airsickness bag (LOL)). I think too there could be more behind this all. Wait and see... I have the feeling that Van Gaever wants to offer the same luxurious services and inflight comfort as Virgin Atlantic offers. I recently heard: "I want to have a better airline than Air France, Lufthansa, KLM and BA. I want only the very best for my passengers although I'm aware it will have its price"
 
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RE: VEX&DAT Perhaps To Merge. What Name You Choose?

Mon Dec 31, 2001 4:02 am

If Van Gaever also offers a free manicure and installs a bar I'll buy a ticket.

Regards
Laurens
 
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Lj

Mon Dec 31, 2001 4:27 am

Book now Lj. You will encounter more than you will expect.....I think.
 
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RE: VEX&DAT Perhaps To Merge. What Name You Choose?

Mon Dec 31, 2001 4:44 am

What about "City sabena belgium express"???

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RE: VEX&DAT Perhaps To Merge. What Name You Ch

Mon Dec 31, 2001 4:44 am

Virgin Europe and Virgin Continental don't sound bad !

Regards, SN-A330
I would rather be flying...
 
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RE: VEX&DAT Perhaps To Merge. What Name You Choose?

Mon Dec 31, 2001 5:16 am

Why not simply Virgin Belgium?

Regards, Benjamin
 
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RE: VEX&DAT Perhaps To Merge. What Name You Choose?

Mon Dec 31, 2001 5:22 am

Lj,

I don't like Delta Air Transport because it's sound like Delta Airline..
Sn hasn't a so bad reputation: one of the safer airline in the world (pretty important when you book a flight) and a pretty good service (tkx to SR).
Belgian World Airline sound good but not enough european oriented. Anyway, AirOrange, Mr Davignon and Lippens will never ask you to imagine their livery with your last reply  Big grin

Gaut
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RE: VEX&DAT Perhaps To Merge. What Name You Choose?

Mon Dec 31, 2001 5:30 am

I agree with Gaut. We don't want another American Airlines/America West/American Trans Air/AirTran/AirTransat fiasco now do we?

I think it should be called...

Belgian Skyways

And if the airline management reads this board...

Celtic Airways/Caledonian Wings(Just for Ceilidh) Big grin
 
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RE: VEX&DAT Perhaps To Merge. What Name You Choose?

Mon Dec 31, 2001 5:42 am

Thank you, Lowfareair Big grin

Unfortunately, Belgium doesn't have much in the way of a Scots connection - though one of my Belgian friends (an Antwerper) tells me that the Scots are really Flemings that learnt to swim! Big grin Big grin
 
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RE: VEX&DAT Perhaps To Merge. What Name You Choose?

Mon Dec 31, 2001 5:53 am

Why not call it Flying Belgian or Begium (sorry Flying Belgian for stealing your username but it really doesn't sound too bad for an airline)

Gaut, I say call it DAT not Delta Air Transport (it's too long).

As for Sabena's reputation. Unless they want to associate the new airline with failure and bankruptcy (of which Sabena is well known) I don't think it's wise to use this name. A safe airline is important. However, the airline must fly first. Therefore, if they want to make a fresh start they should cut all ties with the previous Sabena.

BTW Lippens and Davignon have said that they don't bother with operational matters, thus Air Orange may have a chance.

Oh yes, Air Orange what do I get more than I expect? I already know that I get a picture of one of Van Gaevers children. BTW do i also get a postcard with a small print of the Thijs Postema impression? Finally, I like the Lila Design logo on the B737. Does this also mean your aim is to get a corporate BBJ?

Regards
Laurens
 
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RE: VEX&DAT Perhaps To Merge. What Name You Choose?

Mon Dec 31, 2001 5:58 am

One problem Lowfareair, Celtic Airways already exists (at least they should exist by now) as airline name (ICAO code CEC). Though not associated with Ceillidh

Regards
Laurens
 
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RE: VEX&DAT Perhaps To Merge. What Name You Choose?

Mon Dec 31, 2001 6:05 am

Actually, Laurens, that project (which by coincidence was planning on operating as a Sabena franchisee, against my advice) has been aborted.
 
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Virgin Continental Unveiled

Mon Dec 31, 2001 6:16 am

Some contacts and contracts go faster than starlight. Virgin Continental livery (idea) unveiled!! Look via this link http://www.webstudio.nl/liladesign/designillustrationsamples/view_alone.nhtml?profile=designillustrationsamples&UID=10037
 
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RE: VEX&DAT Perhaps To Merge. What Name You Choose?

Mon Dec 31, 2001 6:37 am

Absolutly great Air Orange congratulation
Why not Virgin Europe or european Virgin
Blue is more better and more sophisticated than the red of VS!!
 
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Air Orange

Mon Dec 31, 2001 6:46 am

The Virgin logo only uses a red background - your light blue one won't work for them. It's part of their corporate identity.
 
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RE: VEX&DAT Perhaps To Merge. What Name You Choose?

Mon Dec 31, 2001 6:52 am

Virgin Continental, Virgin Belgium, or Virgin Europe are nice names, but that would mean Branson would be in control, he has strict controls over the "Virgin" moniker and image.

As for your livery idea, if it were to take off it would need more red! And since red is in the Belgian flag, it should be ok.
 
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RE: VEX&DAT Perhaps To Merge. What Name You Choose?

Mon Dec 31, 2001 7:43 am

VIRGIN-SABENA
What airplane will they choose ?
Regional:Avro-85
Medium haul:B-737 ?
Long haul:A-330 ?
 
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RE: VEX&DAT Perhaps To Merge. What Name You Choose?

Mon Dec 31, 2001 8:11 am

What about: The Belgic Virgin.
 
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RE: VEX&DAT Perhaps To Merge. What Name You Choose?

Mon Dec 31, 2001 8:26 am

Virgin Belgium
Virgin Red (like OZ's Virgin Blue)

or.....tatatatatatatatata....

BLM!!!

Royal Belgian Airlines (LOL)
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RE: VEX&DAT Perhaps To Merge. What Name You Ch

Mon Dec 31, 2001 8:39 am

I have a feeling a certain bloke called Gordon may have a thing or two to say about an airline wanting to call itself Virgin Continental...

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RE: VEX&DAT Perhaps To Merge. What Name You Choose?

Mon Dec 31, 2001 9:21 am

Nice pictures Air Orange but there needs to be some red.
Virgin Continental sounds good but might get confused with the other one and they might complain.
Few other names.
BELGIUM AIR TRANSPORT BAT

Virgin Europe, sounds ok,

Even if Richard Branson sells some of the airline he might still might want to allow them to use the Virgin name.

Why fly non stop when you can connect
 
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RE: VEX&DAT Perhaps To Merge. What Name You Choose?

Mon Dec 31, 2001 10:25 am

Delta Air Transport and Virgin Express?

How about Delta Express?
 
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RE: VEX&DAT Perhaps To Merge. What Name You Choose?

Mon Dec 31, 2001 2:30 pm

Delta express is the low cost brand of Delta airline in US
 
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RE: VEX&DAT Perhaps To Merge. What Name You Choose?

Mon Dec 31, 2001 6:34 pm

Only a thought...

If they wanna operate the A330 on Long-Haul, why using B-737 on short and medium haul? I know Virgin is using them, but isn't it more interesting to use A32X to have a cockpit commonality? Moreover lots of A32X are still waiting for "someone" at BRU, so why not using them?

Air Orange: Nice project but missing a "red touch", but the blue sounds really nice!

I also wanna wish to you a HAPPY AND EXCELLENT NEW YEAR 2002!!!

Hope to see you all next YEAR ON THIS FORUM.
(Même toi, Ceilidh... Smile/happy/getting dizzy )

Regards,

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RE: VEX&DAT Perhaps To Merge. What Name You Choose?

Mon Dec 31, 2001 6:47 pm

Well, whatever it will be called it won't be DAT and it won't be Virgin, according to this press release. Note, however, that they are still only in discussions; nothing has been agreed as yet.

Brussels, 28th December 2001.
Virgin Express (NASDAQ: VIRGY; Euronext: VIRE), announces that it has entered into exclusive discussions with Airholding sa/nv and DAT. Airholding sa/nv recently became the new owner of DAT, the short-haul operating division of the former Sabena.

The objective of the discussions is to explore the benefits of a possible merger of the two companies to create a single Belgian airline that would benefit from the strengths of both companies and aimed at reviving the Belgian airline industry. Confidentiality agreements have been signed to allow for the full exchange of information. As a next step the companies have now signed a new commercial agreement that will be in effect until 28th March 2002 and which is an extension of the previous agreement signed on 14th November 2001.

The concept for the proposed new Belgian airline is that it will be a Brussels-based, business-oriented carrier. At the same time the new carrier will maintain appeal to all cost-conscious travellers, who have come to appreciate the excellent value offered by Virgin Express over the last five years. The parties intend that merger negotiations will be completed during the first quarter of 2002, subject to approval by, amongst others, the EC authorities and the shareholders of Virgin Express shortly thereafter.

If successful, the two airlines will be integrated under a new brand name.

Following the bankruptcy of Sabena on 7th November, passengers booking directly with Virgin Express continue to grow, although yields have suffered as a result of DAT’s promotional prices and DAT accepting passenger tickets from the former Sabena. Load factors have also been reduced in the last two months of the year, following the problems caused by the 11th September tragedy and the cancellation of our wet lease arrangement with Sabena, which at that stage accounted for approximately for 40% of our revenues.

David Hoare, Chairman of Virgin Express, commented: “There is now a unique widespread desire to build a new big Belgian flag carrier that will provide a comprehensive network and a caring service. We are very excited by the prospect of our possible participation in this venture and hope that our discussions will culminate in the successful creation of a new airline early in 2002.”
 
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RE: VEX&DAT Perhaps To Merge. What Name You Choose?

Mon Dec 31, 2001 7:14 pm

Flying lsd,

I know Delta Express is a US airline. That was the point of my post.
 
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RE: VEX&DAT Perhaps To Merge. What Name You Choose?

Tue Jan 01, 2002 12:02 am

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