flpuck6
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DL 763's

Tue Aug 03, 1999 9:43 am

Why do DL's 767-300's have different emergency exit configurations? On most of the ones I have seen and hammered, there are the two emergency exits over the wing. On others that I have seen here on airliners.net, there are some that have a main cabin door just before the wing and only one emergency exit over the wing. Why is this? Are some newer/older? Anybody?
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flyaa757
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RE: DL 763's

Tue Aug 03, 1999 12:16 pm

Recently, DL acquired 6 767-3P6(ER)s used from Gulf Air. These aircraft have the different exit configurations. TWA also operates a mixed fleet.
 
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Ex-Gulf Air DL 763's

Tue Aug 03, 1999 10:52 pm


A note about these: folks at DL have said that the engines on the ex-Gulf Airs are prone to problems. They're the same Pratts that DL has on its other 300ERs, but for some reason they are balky.

Personally, I like the mid-cabin door on the 767 (such as BA and formerly Gulf) as I think it makes the plane more interesting. Also, if you are seated 'up front' you don't have everyone passing through the cabin while boarding (assuming the middle door is used.)
 
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RE: Ex-Gulf Air DL 763's/CV880

Wed Aug 04, 1999 1:24 am

The ex-Gulf Air do not of Pratts. They are powered by CF6-80C2B4s. Delta's older, but original -300ERs are powered by PW4060s, while their newest deliveries are powered by CF6-80C2B6Fs.
 
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Thanks For The Info AA757

Wed Aug 04, 1999 1:44 am


I had not idea that DL has been back and forth so much on the 767-300 engines. I had just assumed that all the ERs were going Pratt (as happened in 1990).

Would you happen to know who DL has selected for the 767-400? As I understand it, both Pratt and GE have offerings for that airframe.
 
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Thanks For The Info AA757

Wed Aug 04, 1999 1:44 am

I had no idea that DL has been back and forth so much on the 767-300 engines. I had just assumed that all the ERs were going Pratt (as happened in 1990).

Would you happen to know who DL has selected for the 767-400? As I understand it, both Pratt and GE have offerings for that airframe.
 
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RE:dal 767-400 Engines

Wed Aug 04, 1999 8:03 am

Delta has picked the CF6-80. I'm not sure which dash No., though
 
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RE: DL 763's

Wed Aug 04, 1999 10:25 am

Heres a logics question for yha!
why dose the 757 have 6 entrence/exit doors while the 767(wich can hold more people) only has 4>?> and ba's 767 has that going on
 
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RE: DL 763's

Wed Aug 04, 1999 10:45 pm

I'm not sure that FlyAA757 is factually correct. The part where he (or she) says that older deliveries were PW and newer ones are GE. The REAL truth is that DL ordered PW for it's -300ER, and GE for -300. The only engine in Delta's fleet flying across the ocean is the PW. Personally I think that the GE is a superior engine over the PW.
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RE: DL 763's/ LH423

Wed Aug 04, 1999 11:28 pm


It had also been my impression that the internationally-configured ER's were all Pratt powered. AA757 had said the recent deliveries were GE. While we await a definitive clarification, I will add that some of the domestically-configured (GE) 767-300s are technically ERs, but have the same two-class config as the earlier ones, and fly North America. If I'm not mistaken, these began with fleet number 130 (N130DL, etc.). If need be, I suppose they could be given Business Elite and sent off to Europe!

LH423, I'm curious to know whether you have direct hands-on experience that makes you pick GE over Pratt for the 767-300. Not that I mind, but it is always interesting to hear from and insider. Personally, I'd put RR on mine.
 
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CV880

Thu Aug 05, 1999 5:03 am

Personally I agree with you, RR is my personal choice. BUt given the text I was just comparing GE to PW. No I do not have "hands-on" expeience, but I try to keep my self informed in the "biz". Through research I have found the Ge to be more reliable, and I'm not sure that this matters, but why else would "Air Force One" be re-engined with GE from PW.
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RE: DL 763's/ LH423

Thu Aug 05, 1999 9:17 am

Trying to sort out Delta's 767 engine combinations can get pretty confusing, but
here we go! The P/W 4000 was the original choice for the 300ER's and the bulk
of the ER's have this engine. Delta has 6 ex Gulf-Air 300ER's and 1 ex Asiana
300ER with GE CF6-80C2B(this is a non FADEC) engines. Delta seems to have
moved away from P/W and all of the latest ER's have GE CF6 FADEC engines( not
sure of the exact model number.) As you can see, the ER's are flying with P/W
and 2 models of the GE CF6.

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