salim
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Smoking In Cokpit

Tue Jan 08, 2002 8:56 pm

Are the pilots allowed to smoke in the cokpit?
Does it depend of the companies?
thanks
Salim
 
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RE: Smoking In Cokpit

Tue Jan 08, 2002 9:22 pm

When I visited the cockpit during the flight from Maasticht to London Gatwick (we were just crossing the Channel, in the Virgin Atlantic Vickers Viscount, the "Maastricht Maiden") I saw the both pilots smoking. I was astonished watching the cockpit blue of smoke and I remembered that I made a prompt remark: it's cloudy here....
 
SN-A330
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RE: Smoking In Cokpit

Tue Jan 08, 2002 9:27 pm

When I flew Olympic Airways from Athens to Amsterdam in 1992, I visited the cockpit during the flight and both pilots where also smoking. They even offered me a sigarette !

But now, I don't think too many pilots will smoke in the cockpit, but I've heard it still happens from time to time.

Regards, SN-A330
I would rather be flying...
 
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RE: Smoking In Cockpit

Tue Jan 08, 2002 9:38 pm

Here is that legendary iron thing at MAA which I flew. Pilots were smoking in the narrow cockpit. The passenger windows were huge and great for sight seeing.


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Air Orange  Smokin cool
 
ramper@iah
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RE: Smoking In Cokpit

Tue Jan 08, 2002 9:55 pm

All U.S. airline's flights are non smoking. This includes the pilots.
 
a/c dxer
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RE: Smoking In Cokpit

Tue Jan 08, 2002 10:46 pm

That doesn't mean that the pilots don't smoke in the cockpit. I've seen pilots in the US smoke in the cockpit. Out of sight, out of mind.
 
airsicknessbag
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RE: Smoking In Cokpit

Tue Jan 08, 2002 10:48 pm

Yeah, I´ve seen smoking LH pilots not long ago, long after LH became non-smoking.
 
cedarjet
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RE: Smoking In Cokpit

Tue Jan 08, 2002 10:52 pm

Salim, you're in Beirut right? Well I stayed with a friend in Chemlan (in the Chouf) who was an MEA 707 flight engineer til about 84 and he said they all used to smoke cigars, and the smoke in the cockpit used to get so thick they'd have to perform the emergency 'smoke in the cockpit' checklist to clear it - opening outlet valves and raising (or lowering...can't remember) the cabin pressurisation! He thought it was hilarious.

Happy new year to all btw.
fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
 
Alaskaairlines
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RE: Smoking In Cokpit

Wed Jan 09, 2002 1:59 am

It should not be allowed what soever!

-Dmitry
 
cv640
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RE: Smoking In Cokpit

Wed Jan 09, 2002 2:20 am

In the US absloutely not, never seen it, heard of it, or even rumors of it. I have seen plenty of crew members chew though.
 
salim
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RE: Smoking In Cokpit

Wed Jan 09, 2002 3:48 am

Thanks everybody
For ceaderjet
i'm lebanese but i leave in Paris. I saw most of Mea pilots smoking. This is why i ask this
By the way, i add new cokpit photos of mea
Salim

 
bapilot2b
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RE: Smoking In Cokpit

Wed Jan 09, 2002 3:56 am

I remember flying to bulgaria on Balkan in 95, HORRIBLE green bare cockpit (TU154) and both pilots were...yes you guessed it! smoking! just wish the warmth went on the food! the food was frozen!
Jason Nicholls - v1images
 
corocks
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RE: Smoking In Cokpit

Wed Jan 09, 2002 4:07 am

A friend of mine is a FO for Continental Express and he says that pilots routinely smoke in the cockpit.
 
MD88Captain
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RE: Smoking In Cokpit

Wed Jan 09, 2002 4:47 am

When I engineered on the L1011 I had a Captain get up in cruise and sit on the aft jumpseat right in back of me. I was facing the panel and after a few minutes I turned to see what he was doing and of course he was smoking. I had never seen anybody smoke in the cockpit at DAL as it was against FAA/company policy. But I was amazed at how he had lit up 18 inches away from me without me smelling a thing. He had opened up the hatch to the E&E compartment directly below the cockpit. There was such a huge flow of air from the cockpit to the E&E compartment that he could have smoked a whole pack and I never would have known. He was a Great Guy, but get this... when I flew with him he was just getting back from his extended sick leave for throat cancer!

George if you are out there reading this, I really enjoyed flying on the Tritanic with you. You were among the best.
 
TWA717_200
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RE: Smoking In Cokpit

Wed Jan 09, 2002 4:57 am

I know for a fact that some U.S. pilots smoke while flying.
 
H. Simpson
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RE: Smoking In Cokpit

Wed Jan 09, 2002 5:47 am

TWA717_200, Do they reduce visibilty while landing?:D
 
Theiler
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RE: Smoking In Cokpit

Wed Jan 09, 2002 7:50 am

The pilot of the Comair CRJ that I was on a few weeks ago at CVG was smoking while we were loading. I think that he was a throw-back, as it appeared that he was getting close to Mandatory Retirement age.
 
Russianplnelvr
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RE: Smoking In Cokpit

Wed Jan 09, 2002 7:16 pm

What about cargo pilots in the U.S.? Since UPS, FedEX, Airborne,...etc don't carry passengers, do the no- smoking rules apply to them?


 
Konstantinos
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RE: Smoking In Cokpit

Wed Jan 09, 2002 7:43 pm

If the Captain wants to smoke in the cockpit then he will do so. I think it's up to the Captain. However, I wouldn't smoke as a first officer if my Captain didn't.
I also know some Captain/Captains out there that smoke in the cockpit like chimneys.
 
GRZ-AIR
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RE: Smoking In Cokpit

Wed Jan 09, 2002 11:15 pm


I was once in a LH jumpseat when I realized the capatain smoking..but he was kind a bending forward and I wouldnt see it at first..then I said that it smells like smoke in here and I got kind a scared...just then I realized what was on fire !  Smile
Does anybody know what the law/regulation is on this ?

thanks GRZ-AIR
When I joined A.net it was still free, haha ;).
 
Lufthansa404
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RE: Smoking In Cokpit

Wed Jan 09, 2002 11:24 pm

I heared Air China pilots are famous for smoking in the cockpit.

Cheers

Jan
 
IAHERJ
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RE: Smoking In Cokpit

Thu Jan 10, 2002 12:33 am

It happens!!

I was in the jumpseat of a brand spanking new CAL 737 in 1999 from DCA to CLE with two older pilots who asked before pushback if I minded if they smoke. I said no as I knew I had no choice anyway. They fired up on the taxiway and smoked very quickly then finished with a quick spray of something very strong under the dash. The first officer turned around and said "this is why we learn the systems on this thing. The smoke smell will first be smelled around row 7 through the recirculation fan #1" They burned 3 a piece on the 1 hour 15 minute flight. They even said that CLE 737 and DC-9 pilots had certain "smoking lines" that the pilots knew about where smokers would bid to fly together. I don't know if it still goes on as the DC9's are gone and CLE is a lot smaller 737 base. I did pass a MD-80 on the ramp in IAH a month ago and the captain was taxiing with the window open. I thought it was for the nice 56 degree day but then he threw a cigerette but in our direction and I knew he wasn't just enjoying the weather.
Actually flown: EMB-120 EMB-145 B717 B737 B757 B767
 
aeromexico757
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RE: Smoking In Cokpit

Thu Jan 10, 2002 1:20 am

Just take a look at this shot.


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find the cigarrets
 
Joge
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RE: Smoking In Cokpit

Thu Jan 10, 2002 1:52 am

Oh yeah, I jumpseated on an OA 737-200 and both of the pilots were smoking one hour non-stop!

I wonder how did they see anything behind all that smoke.  Big grin

-Joge
Bula!
 
Pilot1113
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RE: Smoking In Cokpit

Thu Jan 10, 2002 4:02 am

Is it rude or somehow wrong to speak up if your Captain smokes and you don't?

I, for one, can't stand cigarette smoke. Whenever someone smokes I physically can't breathe. It feels as if the air has suddenly become very heavy and I'm having an asmathetic attack. It should be noted that I'm not normally asmathetic.

I also value my health and try, when I can, to get out for a good run.

- Neil Harrison
 
Give it a GO
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RE: Smoking In Cokpit

Thu Jan 10, 2002 4:16 am

I've jump seated with Ryanair recently, and the F/O was smoking on the flight deck.

The cabin crew came in and said she thought someone was smoking in the toilet. They all had a laugh about it and it was forgotten.
 
TWA717_200
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RE: Smoking In Cokpit

Thu Jan 10, 2002 4:17 am

TWA717_200, Do they reduce visibilty while landing?:D

 Confused
 
Russianplnelvr
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RE: Smoking In Cokpit

Thu Jan 10, 2002 6:42 am



Wouldn't the passengers notice it
 
Squigee
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RE: Smoking In Cokpit

Thu Jan 10, 2002 9:51 am

Someday, we'll look back at this, laugh nervously, and then change the subject.
 
swissgabe
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RE: Smoking In Cokpit

Thu Jan 10, 2002 6:25 pm

Indeed there are some Airlines very famous for smoking in the cockpit. MAS?
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