First Class Worth The Fare?

Thu Aug 05, 1999 7:40 am

IS First Class worth the extra money? I would like to know what service is like in FC. From Boarding to Departing the airplane. I might upgrade if I find it any good. I am a Coach Traveler.

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RE: First Class Worth The Fare?

Thu Aug 05, 1999 7:51 am

Many people that I know who have flown First and/or Business class have not paid for it. They upgrade with frequent flyer miles, or have such seniority in the FF program that they are automatically pur on stand by for First/Business class. As for its worth, Domestically no. Internatioally, YES! It makes a world of difference where you are stuck for 6, 8, or even 14 hours. People will pay to extra money to sleep on a long flight, and, if you pick the right airline, it's worth it! Demestically , I wouldn't think so, because i know it's about $2000(US) to fly between IAH and SFO. That about 4 times the discounted coach fair. So, I, personally don't think it is worth it(domestically); Internationally, do anything that you can to upgrade.
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RE: First Class Worth The Fare?

Thu Aug 05, 1999 8:44 am

I think that it's definately NOT worth it to purchase a domestic first class ticket-- upgrading on a discounted coach ticket for 10,000 miles each way might be worth it on a long flight, i.e. JFK-LAX. Internationally, it's definately worth upgrading to business class, especially if it's trans-Pacific-- 12+ hours in coach is not a good experience!
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RE: First Class Worth The Fare?

Thu Aug 05, 1999 8:57 am

Quite a few years ago, I paid to fly first class on a Delta 727, National 727, Eastern 727, and an Eastern Convair 440, which was all-first-class. At that time it cost about $20 - $30 more than coach on my flights along the east coast, and I thought it was worth it.
But now, the cost of paying for first class is prohibitive. I would have to be a CEO of a major corporation to afford it, and I am just a teacher. But I have used mileage to obtain free first class tickets, and that definitely was worth it. I flew first class on USAir's transcon flights when they first introduced first class, and it was unbeatable. And on a Delta DC-10, an ex-Western aircraft, I got a steak cooked to order and an ice cream sundae. On a Northwest DC-10, I was in the second row where the fuselage curves toward the nose, and my window seat had enough leg room that I could stick my legs almost straight out. But I wouldn't pay for it. I'll only take it if is is free.

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RE: First Class Worth The Fare?

Thu Aug 05, 1999 11:37 am

Heck no! it's not worth it, that's why there's a thing called Frequent Flyer Miles! I get free 1st class when i fly on DL, which ain't many times, due 2 flyin so much on ASA.

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RE: First Class Worth The Fare?

Thu Aug 05, 1999 12:01 pm

What I do on some airlines (at least AS) is I call 24 hours in advance. If they have any First Class seats left, they are 40 dollars extra, on a flight of up to 1000 miles. That is the best value, since First isn't usually full. And, I get a 50% bonus in mileage on that flight.

Reno Air used to offer upgrades for just 20 dollars, but they gradually raised it higher and higher.

Full fare First is a terrible deal. It is absolutely never worth the money. I have never bought a full fare First Class ticket (unless my company paid for it). However, if you use miles to upgrade, or you get a last minute upgrade, I feel it is worth it, to get more room. If I upgrade, I try to travel at a meal time, so I actually get real First Class service!

RE: First Class Worth The Fare?

Thu Aug 05, 1999 12:13 pm

One of the greatest perks of flying first class on shorter flights domestically is the free alchohol and maybe a meal... but mostly the free alchohol...
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RE: First Class Worth The Fare?

Thu Aug 05, 1999 4:03 pm

Charles802 wrote:
What I do on some airlines (at least AS) is I call 24 hours in advance. If they have any First Class seats left, they are 40 dollars extra, on a flight of up to 1000 miles.

Slight correction on my own post: It is up to 1250 miles. 1250-2000 is $80. 2000+ is $120
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RE: First Class Worth The Fare?

Thu Aug 05, 1999 11:26 pm

Personally I'm not sure the first class PAID fare is ever worth the cost. Domestically, absolutely not, but upgrades are useful on longer flights. I use my miles almost exclusively for upgrades on international routes and coast to coast domestic routes. I've used them for F on CO to Australia/New Zealand and on F on UA to Hong Kong and Bangkok; however, I'm now using them for Business Class instead (recently to South Africa) since I personally don't think the miles for first are as well spent as miles for business class. Now, if it were for First on Singapore's new service, that might be another thing entirely!
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RE: First Class Worth The Fare?

Fri Aug 06, 1999 2:13 pm

Of course, the way you think about this depends on how much money you have. I can't afford to fly first class, but twice in the last year I've been upgraded to first because of airline mess-ups. Bless your errors, United Airlines. I'd say that fisrt class is worth the extra money, even for a short flight. The seats are just incredible compared the ones in coach. There's never a fight for overhead bin space,valet service for you coat, and the drinks always flow free. Also, you're able to check in hassle-free, which can really mean a lot at busy hub airports. That's almost worth the extra money alone.
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RE: First Class Worth The Fare?

Sat Aug 07, 1999 4:53 pm

I think what you paid for is what you get. Living in Thailand there's no first class for domestic. I went on LH's first class once and the seats were nice and comfortable. But in my personal opinion, flying first class wouldn't get you to the destination faster ( well maybe only check in - out faster ) , only more comfortable . Which for me I would rather spend the money on coach if you are travelling or business if you are on a meeting or business trip so I can have extra money to spend on something else extra. Personally , my parents usually take coach class and in rare cases , business so we could have an extra stop overs or bring someone extra instead of going for first. Or sometimes my dad goes on First class by paying the fare of business by going on the cheap and unsafe airlines   Not recommended though

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RE: First Class Worth The Fare?

Sun Aug 08, 1999 10:30 am

It depends on which airline you are taking, on BA, it is worth it. The Service is the best. If you fly On BA or United, Try business class, the service is almost as good... but you pay half...

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Definitely Not

Sun Aug 08, 1999 7:46 pm

No way is it worth it. It's very very nice, but you probably don't have seats that comfortable in your living room or car, so why suddenly spend 10 times (literally) extra just cos you're flying for a few hours. Business class can be justified if you have to get off the plane and go straight into a meeting or something, but individuals almost never pay for this service, it's paid for by your employer. And just cos you've slept on the plane doesn't mean you're not going to get jetlag, you've still crossed half a dozen timezones and no matter how much expensive gourmet food and pudding you put in your mouth and no matter how big the personal TV screen is, you're body clock is still going to punch out when it thinks it's time for bed. So spending (in my case) $10,000 to fly back to Sydney (instead of about $1,200 for economy) is no insurance against passing out at the dinner table and going headfirst into my food a la George Bush. My Mum can be hilarious if we're travelling together, you can smell the food being served to the first class passengers and she'll say how she must "remember to pay more for my seat next time" (ie sit up front), but her justification for economy class is that those people desperate for status and recognition who pay ten times the fare "don't get there any quicker", "they're still on the plane for 20 hours", and because they're in the nose section, they are, in the event of an accident, "first to the scene of the crash". You guys would like my Mum, she's not a very good flier (nervous, bless her) but she's a right laugh.
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RE: First Class Worth The Fare?

Sun Aug 08, 1999 8:49 pm

I think flying Business Class is worth the extra cash on long-haul flights. As a regular LHR-KUL traveller with the occasional LHR-KUL-SYD routes, BA's Club World is fantastic...a decent seat that means I seems weird to pay to sleep but when you work to get to that's really important. The food is just about right - pig-out if you're hungry or snack if you're not. THe in-flight entertainment is just about all you need - who the hell needs 400 video titles on a 13 hour flight.

I used to fly World Traveller and my oh my did I arrive in a poor state...back aches and all. I heard Malaysian Golden Club is good too but having flown with them on Virgin's LHR-KUL route before (albeit Economy) I'm not in a hurry to try.

For holidays, I tend to fly Economy - heck I'm only going to check-into a hotel room at the other end and I sleep most of my holidays anyway.

RE: First Class Worth The Fare?

Sun Aug 08, 1999 10:23 pm

I would personaly fly coach on all 3 hour and under domestic flights. It's so much cheaper. Aything over three hours I would prefer first class. I've always flown Air Canada and their "Executive" class is worth the upgrade. You get seperate check in counters. As soon as you go past security there is the "Maple Leaf Lounge" with free drinks, (Alcohol is free too). Free snacks and newspapers. You can watch TV, send faxes, and make business calls all for free if it is local. You get to board the plane first. As soon as you start to level off they bring you a complimentary drink, which you requested before the flight took off. You get a choice of meals and dessert, with more free beverages. You get a hot towel to wash your hands with before and after the meal. The seats recline so much more. On Lufthansa they're sleeper seats. You leave the plane first. You have a seperate baggage carousel, (most airports). If not your baggage will come first on the regular carousel. Now in some airports in the first class lounge there are showers, clothes are pressed for free. And thats executive class!
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RE: First Class Worth The Fare?

Mon Aug 09, 1999 4:56 pm

I rather prefer to spend the money I would use in the First Class in my destination than in the plane. In my case I travel a lot from Mexico to Spain and I was used to fly from Mexico to Argentina and I never used First Class. Joaquín México City / Ciudad de México
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