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Latest Picture Of What's Left Of Denver Stapleton

Wed Jan 16, 2002 9:23 am

The following is the latest photo I found on Airliners.net of what's left of Stapleton. It was taken Dec. 18, 2001.

As you can see, not much is left.  Sad

A highway now goes through it. All that is really left are some taxiways which will be removed soon.

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Everything in Stapleton will be removed with the exception of a parking garage which was bought by the Regional Transportation District (public transit company in Denver), a Continental Hanger which was converted to a Bowling Alley, and the Control Tower which will remain as a rememberance of the old Stapleton Airport.

The land is being developed into a commerical, residential, and retail area. The whole re-development of Stapleton will take 30 years. For more information on the re-development, go here: http://www.stapletondenver.com

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RE: Latest Picture Of What's Left Of Denver Stapleton

Wed Jan 16, 2002 9:41 am

SAD..... Why couldn't they have closed down Centennial and leave Stapleton? Stapleton would've benn a place where planes from DEN were redirected and such as the 767 couldn't land at Centennial, but could land at Stapleton.
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RE: Latest Picture Of What's Left Of Denver Stapleton

Wed Jan 16, 2002 9:44 am

Very sad. I saw that on approach to 16 (not on approach, but on our way to approach) in September.  Sad
 
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RE: Latest Picture Of What's Left Of Denver Stapleton

Wed Jan 16, 2002 9:47 am

Vafi88,

Why on earth would the city close down Centennial?

Centennial recieves no airline service whatsover. Its for private/personnal planes only. It is the 2nd busiest public airport in the US without airline service. They would not close it.

A 767 can actually land at Centennial. Centennial's longest runway is 10,000ft. long which is plenty for a 767.

Besides, if a bad storm hits Denver, planes are always redirected to COS. Its only 72 miles south of Denver, so its the perfect diversion airport for Denver.

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RE: Latest Picture Of What's Left Of Denver Stapleton

Wed Jan 16, 2002 11:23 am

>>>A highway now goes through it...

Actually, if you're refering to that dark-colored highway that starts in the center foreground and heads westward towards the mountains, that's I-70, and it's been there all along. Back in the Stapleton days, I-70 went through a tunnel that went underneath runway 17R-35L and the associated taxiways. Runway 17L-35R was completely north of I-70. Once Stapleton closed, the tunnel under I-70 was one of the first things to get demolished.

Great picture, BTW, as I'd wondered what had beed happening to the old place. I also just found this shot (taken July 10,1999), which may interest you... Cheers..

http://landsat.gsfc.nasa.gov/data/Browse/Cities/denver_sub_10jul1999.jpg
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RE: Latest Picture Of What's Left Of Denver Stapleton

Wed Jan 16, 2002 11:33 am

Nice picture, OPNLguy. I've never been to Denver International, but I always thought it was a lot farther than it appears in this picture. Looks like a nice 10 minute drive to me.
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RE: Latest Picture Of What's Left Of Denver Stapleton

Wed Jan 16, 2002 11:38 am

IMissPiedmont,

Hehehehehehehe.......I wish it were a 10 minute drive......

OPNLguy,

Thanks for clearing that up. I wasn't sure whether I-70 went around Stapleton during the days it was operating, or if it went straight through it.

Regards.
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RE: BA

Wed Jan 16, 2002 11:47 am

I really wasn't joking this time. How far is it? I must admit that I live out in the sticks so a 10 minute drive is 10 or 15 miles at prevailing traffic speeds, when there is traffic.
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RE: Latest Picture Of What's Left Of Denver Stapleton

Wed Jan 16, 2002 11:52 am

Hello...

I heard that the tunnels came down on their own the night before they were gonna be brought down, since I hadnt moved to CO yet can someone comment and/or provide a link to information on this...Ry
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RE: Latest Picture Of What's Left Of Denver Stapleton

Wed Jan 16, 2002 12:05 pm

IMissPiedmont,

From downtown Denver, its 23 miles.

Traveling time vary's depending on the traffic. It could be anywhere from a 20 minute to a 45 minute commute.

It will be good when they build the "AirTrain" a 90-100mph train that will connect Downtown Denver with the airport in just 25 minutes.

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RE: Latest Picture Of What's Left Of Denver Stapleton

Wed Jan 16, 2002 12:07 pm

>>>I heard that the tunnels came down on their own the night before they were gonna be brought down, since I hadnt moved to CO yet can someone comment and/or provide a link to information on this...Ry

Presuming that such an unplanned collapse would have come as a big surprise to the everyday users of I-70, ( Big grin I did a search of the Denver Post and Rocky Mountain News archives (looking for "Stapleton tunnel") and found no mention of any collapses.

Maybe a local can tell you for certain, but I doubt that it came down the night before...

Just my 2 cents...
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RE: Latest Picture Of What's Left Of Denver Stapleton

Wed Jan 16, 2002 12:09 pm

Has anyone but myself noticed that Denver Int'l looks like a Swastica?

 Confused

Well aside from that its real sad to see Stapleton in this state, tell me, why did they close it, for noise reduction?

How sad.  Sad

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RE: Latest Picture Of What's Left Of Denver Stapleton

Wed Jan 16, 2002 12:19 pm

The old Stapleton was prone to some really bad ATC dealys when the weather got even "minor" cloud decks, due to the proximity of the two north-south runways to one another. Whenever the airport lost the ability to conduct "visual" approaches (at about a 3,000 foot ceiling and 5 miles visibility) the airport could no longer run approaches to both the runways. Full ILS approaches were then used, but while both runways had ILS stuff installed, the regs say that to conduct parallel or simultaneous ILS approaches to parallel runways, the runways had to be at least 2,500 feet or 4,300 feet apart, respectively. I can't recall the exact distance at Stapleton (want to say it was 1,500 feet), but it was less than required.

This scenario ended up having the effect of reducing their ability to land aircraft by 50%, and we all know what happens when 3 lanes of a 6-lane freeway suddenly get shutdown. The same situation exists today with SFO...

The new airport was built with all this in mind, among many other reasons, like the ability to eventuall extend runway lengths to handle long-distance flights.
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RE: Latest Picture Of What's Left Of Denver Stapleton

Wed Jan 16, 2002 12:30 pm

On top of operational delays the land that Stapleton is on is EXTREMELY valuable to the City/County of Denver. Interestingly an amendment to the Colorado Constitution in the 1970s (The Poundstone Amendment) made it exceedingly difficult for Denver City/County to annex new land. Basically they need the approval of the surrounding cities and counties. The only time the Denver successfully annexed any new land since the amendment was for the new airport, with VERY generous concessions to Adams County... primarily from hotel tax revenues for all hotels built on or adjacent to the airport. But still a small price to pay for thousands of acres of developable land.
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RE: Latest Picture Of What's Left Of Denver Stapleton

Wed Jan 16, 2002 12:35 pm

>>>The only time the Denver successfully annexed any new land since the amendment was for the new airport....

"Here, you can have all this contaminated land that used to be part of the Rocky Mountain Arsenal..." Well, at least people aren't building homes out there..(I hope)
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RE: Latest Picture Of What's Left Of Denver Stapleton

Wed Jan 16, 2002 12:37 pm

Aloha 737-200... I flew over DEN three times this summer, seeing it out the window

twice on ORD-SLC
and once on ORD-OAK

and I must admit that a swaztica did come to mind every time.


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anyways for the original topic, I also flew through DEN twice this summer SLC-DEN-ORD both times, and on approach i saw Stapelton and it looked just like that picture in both July and August when i flew through DEN.

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RE: Latest Picture Of What's Left Of Denver Stapleton

Wed Jan 16, 2002 12:40 pm

Wha has happened to the Terminals and the runway? Since it looks to me that the hangers are being turned into bowling alleys and warehouses. aybe a runway can be used for smaller planes and a municipal airport can be created.
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RE: Latest Picture Of What's Left Of Denver Stapleton

Wed Jan 16, 2002 12:47 pm

VirginA340,

Only 1 of the Hangers was turned into a Bowling Alley.

The runways has been completely removed. The terminals have also been completely demolished.

All that is left is the few remaining taxiways you see there.

A small airport would have been nice there. But its been decided, the land will be turned into mostly residential area, with some commerce and retail stores.

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RE: Latest Picture Of What's Left Of Denver Stapleton

Wed Jan 16, 2002 3:57 pm

Damn it! Atleast they could've turned one of the terminals into a kickass shopping mall like what happened at the old Kai Tak! A missed opertunity on the ignorant fools! Hell I would've picked that mall over Mall of America and that Mall in Edmonton. But Edmonton has an indoor waterpark. Hell those high and mighty rich people would love to a a DEN version of Teterborough that can take Gulfstreams, Lears and BBJs. Another missed opportunity!

A warehouse woul've been approtpriate for the hangers. I can imagine UPS or FEDEX setting them up into a distribution center or something like that for their trucks.

What the word on the control Tower?

Thanks for the info BA  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: Latest Picture Of What's Left Of Denver Stapleton

Wed Jan 16, 2002 4:10 pm

Swastica is the first thing I associated Denver International with when I came here in 1996. The airport is good though. I wish more interesting planes would come in instead of all these boring 737's.
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RE: Latest Picture Of What's Left Of Denver Stapleton

Wed Jan 16, 2002 4:28 pm

Denver must be one of the worst planned cities ive seen. Its plan its so awkward, and it is really disorganised. Didnt Centennial Airport have problems with flight paths to the main airport. It seems quite close.

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RE: Latest Picture Of What's Left Of Denver Stapleton

Wed Jan 16, 2002 5:44 pm

In OPNL's photo, the 3rd airport visible on the eastern edge of the city is Buckley AFB. A 4th airport is also in the photo, Aurora Airpark. It is on the southern edge of I-70 (a dark area), between the extended runway centerlines of the two east N/S runways at DEN.

When flying over that portion of Denver, it is nice to have Stapleton as an emergency landing site if a problem were to develop, as from the southwest, there are not too many other clear areas to safely put down a Cessna.
 
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RE: Latest Picture Of What's Left Of Denver Stapleton

Wed Jan 16, 2002 10:21 pm

I visited once that airport, it was for the inaugural flight of Frontier 'Spirit of the West', when they had only a pair of 737-200s with... white tails.
I remember that an old Convair 990 (880?) was stored at Stapelton. I have it in the background of most of the photos I took there back in 1994. Does someone have an idea of what happened to this plane?
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RE: Latest Picture Of What's Left Of Denver Stapleton

Thu Jan 17, 2002 1:28 pm

VirginA340,

Denver already has its own version of Teterborough. Its Centennial Airport (APA) which is located in Southern Denver. It's the 2nd busiest General Aviation Airport in the US. Can't ask for much more than that.  Smile

Also, if they kept Stapleton running, there would be a lot of problems with the flight paths since they are relatively close.

IndianicWorld,

I've never heard about Centennial having problems with the flight path to the main airport. Centennial is quite far from DEN.

Regards.
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