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A318 First Flight Pictures

Wed Jan 16, 2002 4:55 pm

Who is going to post some then? I can't wait much longer.

Have seen a couple on the Airbus site but need more!

Come on German photographers, let's see what you've got!
 
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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Wed Jan 16, 2002 5:13 pm

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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Wed Jan 16, 2002 5:19 pm

so which airlines have actually confirmed orders for this plane? I love it. hope we get some. I think its going tobe a great success.
 
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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Wed Jan 16, 2002 5:22 pm

British Airways, Air France, America West, ILFC, GECAS, Egyptair, Air China, CIT

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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Wed Jan 16, 2002 5:50 pm

Do you have any information about the airlines, that will fly the GECAS and the ILFC units? Are these already leased out (Well at least the ILFC units will be, they never order aircraft without watertight lease contracts)?
Regards
Andreas
btw: Thanx for the pics, looks great!
I know it's only VfB but I like it!
 
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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Wed Jan 16, 2002 7:22 pm


Hi!

I look to the A318 and it looks like a 747SP, the tail is higher and thinner than the rest of the family... it looks cool!
regards
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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Wed Jan 16, 2002 8:11 pm

Very nice.
See my homepage for a comprehensive guide to spotting and photography at HKG
 
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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Wed Jan 16, 2002 8:59 pm

If I remember correct 6 of the ILFC A318s will go to Frontier. However it seems that just recently two lessorsconverted A318 orders into large A320-family version.

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steman
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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Wed Jan 16, 2002 9:25 pm

Hasn't TAM ordered some at the last Paris Air Show?
I imagine that now the A318 is flying, more airlines will place orders for it. What about Alitalia, Iberia and some other A320 user?

Ciao

Stefano
 
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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Wed Jan 16, 2002 9:26 pm

So which engines are on this particular plane? The PW8000 isn't operational yet, is it? And the engines on the pic look quite different from the CFM's
 
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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Wed Jan 16, 2002 9:33 pm

The A318 is equipped with PW6000 engines, which have an integral nacell not like the CFM56.
IIRC also the CFM56 is available on this model afetr Air France pushed on Airbus for it, as it would save a lot of money in a fleet with CFM56 powered aircrafts, like AIr France's.

Ciao

Stefano
 
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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Wed Jan 16, 2002 9:40 pm

Yes, PW6000, excuse me... I accidently typed 8000.
Anyway, I read that the A318 program was slowed down due to problems with the PW6000. But the first A318 prototype HAS PW6000's, if Steman is right. So what about these problems with PW6000's? Are they just not meeting their predicted performance, but ARE operational for the testplane?

Ed
 
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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Wed Jan 16, 2002 10:44 pm

On this particular plane you can see the PW6000. But the A318 will be certified first with CFM56-5 engines.

Gerardo
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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Wed Jan 16, 2002 10:50 pm

Yes, TAM has signed a LoI for 20+20 A318 during the Aerosalon. If I remember correct it was only partly firmed up, they currently have 18 options but no firm orders for it.

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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Wed Jan 16, 2002 10:58 pm

If TAM hasn't signed any firm order yet I imagine that they haven't chosen the engine either!
TAM uses V2500 on its A319 and A320. They should be disappointed that Airbus and IAE don't offer a derated version of this engine for the A318.
The big advantage of the A318 over its competitors (B737-600 and B717) is its commonality with the other member of the Airbus single aisle family. But if you have to put in service a small number of A318 with a different engine from the rest of the fleet, this advantage is less visible, don't you agree?

Ciao

Stefano
 
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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Wed Jan 16, 2002 11:08 pm

What about Rolls Royce engines ?
What happened to TWA order for 30 AB318 ??

Thanks .
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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Wed Jan 16, 2002 11:24 pm

There are no RR engines on any A320-family aircraft. RR is only in this business via the IAE V2500 engine.

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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Wed Jan 16, 2002 11:31 pm

The TWA A318/319 order was cancelled only a few days after AA had taken over TWA.

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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Thu Jan 17, 2002 12:37 am

All I can say is that the A318 at certain angles reminds me a lot of the original Fat Albert 737-100's that LH flew for many years.

Now, if Airbus is willing to build an A318 with slightly less fuel capacity but with a stronger structure for high-frequency operations, they could get both NW and AC interested in buying the plane as DC-9/F-28 replacements.
 
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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Thu Jan 17, 2002 1:10 am

My gosh!

What a cuuuuuute baby!

Bravo Airbus!!!
 
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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Thu Jan 17, 2002 1:40 am

as a fan of smaller airliners i must say that i love this baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 Love  Love  Love
 
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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Thu Jan 17, 2002 8:01 am

There are no RR engines on any A320-family aircraft. RR is only in this business via the IAE V2500 engine.

Gerardo please explain .

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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Thu Jan 17, 2002 8:24 am

Flying-Tiger,

A minor correction. Frontier bought 5 A318s from Airbus, and they will be leasing 1 from ILFC.

Just on a side note, Frontier will be recieving there 6th A319 next month.

Regards.
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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Thu Jan 17, 2002 8:41 am

Fly707:

The V2500 engine is the product of International Aero Engines (IAE), a collaborative venture of four of the world's leading aerospace companies: Pratt & Whitney, Rolls-Royce, Japanese Aero Engines and MTU.

Each partner is responsible for part of the engine, offering airlines operating and economic advantages. The V2500 has the lowest fuel burn in the 22,000-33,000-pound-thrust class. Its operational performance is matched by its environmental performance; the engine is so quiet that its noise footprint barely leaves the runway.

The V2500 entered service in 1989 on the Airbus A320 and later was selected to power the A321 and A319 derivatives. Another version of the engine exclusively powers the Boeing MD-90.

From P&W website

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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Thu Jan 17, 2002 8:58 am


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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Thu Jan 17, 2002 9:29 am

For those here who don't understand french, here is the translation of the link posted above, by Flying-Tiger;

15 January, 2001, First flight of the A318

The inaugural flight took place January 15th in Hamburg.
The aircraft, s/n 1599, F-WWIA, took-off for the first time at 10:11 am, and landed 3h44 minutes later, at 1:55 pm. For the first flight, the 318 is powered by PW6000 engines and took off with a weight of 57,5 tonnes, including 7 tonnes of test flight instruments.

Download the take-off video.

History and orders, spec.
Hope this may help and few of you.

The 319 looks great and strong for such a small baby.
Regards, SafeFlyer.
 
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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Thu Jan 17, 2002 10:01 am

What a sweet little plane!!! Hope NW picks up some of these!!!
 
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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Thu Jan 17, 2002 10:24 am

anyone know when the first commercial flight of the 318 will be?
 
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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Thu Jan 17, 2002 11:10 am

Usairways85-- well first let's see if it makes it through flight test, then certification, on-time (slated for 3rd quarter, of this year). Seems there's a whole bunch of guys clamouring to be launch customers for Li'l Stubby, but..I guess Air France and Crossair, are probably going to get the first ones ,end of the year, maybe, if everything's on schedule and then revenue service a month or two after that, once the flight and ground crews are familiar and confident with it to their satisfaction.
 
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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Thu Jan 17, 2002 3:14 pm

It's adorable!!! So that's what an Airbus newborn looks like  Smile Then as it grows older (teenage years) it becomes the A320, and by adulthood it becomes the A330?  Laugh out loud

-Arek, aka NtCrawler
 
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RE: 310_engineer

Thu Jan 17, 2002 4:56 pm

Hi,
you forgot to mention that in the IAE group there is also FIAT AVIO of Italy, which doesn't have a marginal stake in the programme and is the world leader in production and design of gearboxes and transmission, being involved in many engine programmes with IAE, GE, RR and PW.

Ciao

Stefano
 
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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Thu Jan 17, 2002 5:22 pm

I didn´t know that the A318 has different powerplant than the rest of the A320 family.
Fleet commonanlity ´s suffering from this situation a little I guess although PW 6000 could easily be mistaken for a V2500 lookwise.Now that said the A318 looks far better than I´ve expected,I like especially the B52-style vertikal fin.  Smokin cool
 
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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Sun Jan 20, 2002 10:53 am

Thank you 310engineer .

Good Luck .
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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Sun Jan 20, 2002 11:04 am

Those were good Flying-Tiger. What did you take them with? I liked the clear ones.
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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Sun Jan 20, 2002 4:31 pm

That has got to be the ugliest aircraft produced in the last... 99 years.

It kind of looks like a plastic toy that was rejected...  Laugh out loud
 
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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Sun Jan 20, 2002 6:07 pm

The CFM-56 variant was only selected for the A318 at the insistence of AF, the original plan was for PW6000 engines only.
 
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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Sun Jan 20, 2002 7:45 pm

Very cute!!!

I love it!
 
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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Sun Jan 20, 2002 11:54 pm

What are we going to name this baby?

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RE: A318 First Flight Pictures

Sun Jan 20, 2002 11:59 pm

Microbus...

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