Canadian747
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Todays Liveries

Fri Jan 18, 2002 11:38 pm

I was looking through the pictures of this site and let me tell you that Airline liveries in todays market are bland... Lack of colors.... The main reason why I say that is when I look at pictures of airliners I want to see more colors on the fuselage instead of that all white stuff... I can say cudos to Brtish Midland for adding colors to their fuselage and their whole airplane....

Could someone explain to me why do the airlines switch to an all white fuselage or change a nice looking paint scheme to an ugly one Smile
 
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RE: Todays Liveries

Sat Jan 19, 2002 12:16 am

personally i love white airliners. However after looking at some of Air oranges work, i think the future is very bright. Check out the topics by Air Orange, involving Crystal Airways and BMIbaby.
 
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RE: Todays Liveries

Sat Jan 19, 2002 12:20 am

I like the mostly white ones too. This is primarily because the likes of Air Jamaica..which is nightmare.
 
Canadian747
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RE: Todays Liveries

Sat Jan 19, 2002 12:32 am

I know that the all white fuses look good abd clean... but what puzzeles me is that an ailine Like BA that had a neat looking plane switched to an almost white fuse and those multi colored tails.... But by looking at Air Jamaica I know that that plane is a color disaster... But I would personally like to see eye catching paint schemes rather than an all white one.

Is it because of costs or maintenace that airlines are switching to an all white fuselage?  Smile
 
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RE: Todays Liveries

Sat Jan 19, 2002 12:54 am

i doubt an all white scheme would cut maintenance costs, although i suppose it would make it easier to see if you have an oil leak. It would cut painting costs a bit, as all you would need to do is spray the damn thing, whereas with a coloured design you would need to draw out the design, then paint it carefully, trying not to go over the lines. This would take a bit longer, meaning the plane is in service less, and also leading to higher painting fees.

I really like the BA livery, especially the tail fins. Some of them look bad, but others are really smart.
 
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RE: Todays Liveries

Sat Jan 19, 2002 2:37 am

I guess one reason why airlines are often more conservative with colour is becuase many, if not most of them are looking to attract business and first class passengers. These people tend to be conservative by nature and might often select a regular carrier that they feel best reflects who they are.. so long as it fundamentally serves their needs. They tend to be very profitable for airlines who grab the largest percentage of their market. They also tend to be more comfortable in conservative environments. Wild colours don't cut it for them and so long as they bring in high yields for the carrier their tastes will be reflected in the airlines that serve them. For example look at how BA took so much criticism after going to the World Tails.. they quickly went for the flag in order to appease people.
 
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RE: Todays Liveries

Sat Jan 19, 2002 3:12 am

Canadian747:
Man I agree with you about today's liveries. They are UGLY!
I don't like the white fuselage and painted tail at all.

The best today is Olympic, American, Aeroflot, Northwest, LOT, Southwest, and Iberia
Bring back the Concorde
 
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RE: Todays Liveries

Sat Jan 19, 2002 3:47 am

Now this is one hell of a good livery...


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RE: Todays Liveries

Sat Jan 19, 2002 3:50 am

I don't see what you problem is, I most of the liveries are really good. I couldn't see aircanada with all of these funky colours. It shows patriotism for Canada, Red and White, the green is good too, part of forests in Canada i guess. But it gives the clean look, Canada is known for its snow, so white is more to do with Canada. Look at Jamacia Air, down there its crazy and its a wild party. Hence the funky colours. I think that the colours are there for a reason and I have no problems. What I would like to see is more of the special liveries, to keep it fresh and have to aircraft travel around to a vast amount of destinations. Example, AC has the Trans-Canada Air Lines A319, really cool and the Parrot 767. More of those by all airlines would be good. Maybe one for every aircraft or something?

So inconclusion, I like the current liveries, but I would like to see more special liveries updated bi-yearly.

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RE: Todays Liveries

Sat Jan 19, 2002 3:58 am

In many cases. the livery reflects on the type of airline the airline is. The staid, more conservative liveries are often for those airlines that are aimed towards the flier that tends to spend the money for business or first class. Good examples are United, Continental, American, BA, Air France and Delta. Leisure and low-fare airlines (and most charter airlines as well) tend to favor liveries that scream "hey look at me!" like the often picked on student that sits in the back of the classroom. They like wild colors that suggest vacations and fun. Cases in point, EasyJet, Valujet, Air Jamaica, BWIA, America West, and even Southwest (yes, Southwest!). Note how boring and bland nearly all cargo planes are, their liveries, like their missions are spartan and utilitarian. So really all liveries reflect upon the area in the industry they focus on.
 
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RE: Todays Liveries

Sat Jan 19, 2002 5:42 am

This livery is horrible. There's something about it that isn't right...

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RE: Todays Liveries

Sat Jan 19, 2002 8:34 am

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, horses for courses and each to his own etc... Wouldn't it be a boring world if we all liked the same thing?
 
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RE: Todays Liveries

Sat Jan 19, 2002 12:04 pm

America West's is the best though... Smile/happy/getting dizzy Smokin cool


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RE: Todays Liveries

Sat Jan 19, 2002 1:11 pm

I agree, I don't much care for United's livery, I liked their old one better. It is really bad for other pilots at night when you can't see the planes on the taxiways because they are so dark. Another livery I don't care for is the latest by British Airways with the Union Jack. I liked the world tails the best by BA.
 
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RE: Todays Liveries

Sat Jan 19, 2002 1:18 pm

Well, we DID have a good livery in Canada albeit for a short time:


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RE: Todays Liveries

Sat Jan 19, 2002 2:18 pm

The world of TUI scheme makes me sick. I can't believe any company would think of a scheme THAT ugly.

I am not a huge fan of the white schemes, but Air Canada, British Airways, and Lufthansa look okay actually.
My favourite schemes belong to American and Virgin Atlantic. I love the silver scheme, even if it isn't bare metal.

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RE: Todays Liveries

Sat Jan 19, 2002 2:35 pm

I have been informed by a Captain of an American Airlines MD-80 series, that the lack of paint on the American Aircraft increases the useful load of the aircraft by literally thousands of pounds. Thats JUST paint weight, let alone the ease of maintenance, and the lack of touch up's required.

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RE: Todays Liveries

Sat Jan 19, 2002 5:31 pm

The aircraft with the most paint is Nulanji Dreaming (the blue coloured aboriginal sceme) that adornes a B747-300 .
In total 2 tonnes of paint cover the fuselage. Airlines need to save fuel in these tight financial times, and although a predominately white fuselage may not look if it saves fuel cost, it is the best option for cost saving airlines.
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RE: Todays Liveries

Sun Jan 20, 2002 12:43 am

I think it aircraft look most attractive and appealing when they have large poster title on their white fuselage. This technique is not only employed by America West (as metioned above), but also by other larger airlines such as Sabena, JAT, and LOT.


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LOT Boeing 737-500

Furthermore, I think these aircraft would look even better if they had a light-grey belly. Lufthansa would be a good example of this!
 
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RE: Todays Liveries

Sun Jan 20, 2002 1:12 am

I love United's livery. Even though it does make everything gray but United, USAirways and the new Southwest are awesome, i think. I like how southwest doesn't write their titles anywhere on the plane except for the plane. But their idea of a "desert sunrise" or was it "canyon sunrise" (well that's in the desert too..) is awesome. I have seen a desert sunrise before and with 3 colors and a line, this is the best anyone could do to represent it. It is awesome. And since Sun Country's new livery is similar i like that one too.


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RE: Todays Liveries

Sun Jan 20, 2002 4:11 am

You wanna see a great livery? Well have a look at these beauties!


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RE: Todays Liveries

Sun Jan 20, 2002 4:27 am

Speaking of colorful aircraft, I love Vanguard's new livery, a different color on almost every tail but following the same format:


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