flyaa757
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TWA Fleet

Mon Aug 09, 1999 8:06 am

Does anyone know how many 757s and 767s are currently in the TWA fleet. Specifically, what is the breakdown between -200/300 76s.

Thanks,
Paul.
 
twa747100
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RE: TWA Fleet

Mon Aug 09, 1999 8:17 am

Well,
too many 757's
not enought 767's
to many little flying death tubes (md-80s)
and not enoguht 777,747!
 
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asqx
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RE: TWA Fleet

Mon Aug 09, 1999 8:43 am

FlyAA757:
Well, their number of 757s keeps getting bigger as they take more deliveries. There was a new one at Boeing Field the other day before all of the thunderstorms.

As for the 767s, they are getting rid of the 767-200s as I think they are not ERs (I could be wrong) and getting new 767-300ERs.

Sorry I couldn't be very speccific as they are getting more and I don't know how many total they ordered but I am sure someone out here knows. I wish they would post something about fleet size on their web site.

Twa747100:
What's so bad about 757s? I enjoy them on the SEA-STL route. They have movies on them and are usually good movies. The 757 is great for them as it is so cheap to operate and helps to keep costs down (something TWA needs). They are getting more 767-300ERs for Trans-Atlantic flights but they don't need as many as UA or DL. They need more flights, not more pax. so why do they need a 777 or a 747? All that extra capacity would kill TWA, that is part of what got them where they are, operating half empty 747s accross the Atlantic. And would you PLEASE tell me why the MD80 is a "death tube"?!?!?!?!?!? I have never heard of a glut of TWA crashes involving MD80s, in fact, MD80s are pretty darn safe aircraft. I admit TWA has problems, and they are working on fixing them (a little slowly IMHO) but if they had 747s and 777s like you want they WOULD DIE!
 
twa747100
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RE: TWA Fleet

Mon Aug 09, 1999 10:33 am

Well as for the 747's twa had them and they were full most of the time. And after a while the 777 would be goond on the nrt-stl route. md80=death tube, why becasue well
1. tis a tube
2. on the long flights (stl-sea) you wish you were dead (if ur in coach) but yes it is a good airplane
and i am not dissing the 757 it is a good aircraft. i just wish twa would get more larger aircraft.
and yes the 747s would be full the jfk-fco is allways full i cant ever get on it
and the stl-hnl flight is allways full they tell norevs not even to list!
matt
 
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asqx
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RE: TWA Fleet

Mon Aug 09, 1999 11:24 am

I have never wished I was dead sitting in coach on a MD80 going from SEA-STL or back. SEA-STL isn't very long, it is only about 3.5 hours going east and just a little under 4 hours going west. I feel more comfortable in a TW MD80 than I do in a UA A320!

TWA really needs smaller planes to grow domestically before they get back into the 300+ category. Let them keep their 767s running full and making a profit before they spend the millions trying to get a 777. TWA is no where near the size it neads to be to compete with DL and UA trans pacific (or any of the Asian carriers) and has to worry about keeping the airline from going bankrupt.
 
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RE: TWA Fleet

Mon Aug 09, 1999 12:24 pm

Well according to the website World Airline Fleets

http://www.intercpt.demon.co.uk/fleets.html.

I count 12 767-200s im pretty sure that number is close to correct unless they have gotten rid of some. And i count only 5 767-300s on their list but i know they have more by now.... Hope this helps a little.

Brian
 
qfatwa
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RE: TWA Fleet

Mon Aug 09, 1999 7:13 pm

Correct Brian.

There are 12 767-200's & 5 767-300's.

Two new 763's in Sept & two more new 763's in Feb/Mar - the will replace 4 x 762's (aircraft to go will be 16007, 16008, 16009, & 16051).

The September 763's will be used on STL-LGW-STL & JFK-FCO-JFK.

Matt - a full aircraft is not always making money (as per your comment re HNL non-rev's).

757's -currently 20, with # 21 in Sept, and six more to come (probably five to be delivered by year end 1999, and one early in 2000).

My comment re A321's - TWA has an open order for 25 A320 family aircraft for year 2005 onwards subject to re-evaluation of fleet requirements at that time (it will be common cockpit compatability - a cost saver).
 
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RE: TWA Fleet

Tue Aug 10, 1999 6:09 am

Has TWA considered getting COMBI aircraft (747's for example) for some of their international routes? They could have the same # of pax as a 767, as well as huge cargo capabilities.. Wouldn't these work well on their TLV route?
 
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RE: TWA Fleet

Tue Aug 10, 1999 8:16 am

on my sea-stl the coach seats needed replacing. I wish the 757 was in service when i took the flights.twafleet them buy big plane although i think it is a good idea. and what do they use there 767-300's on?
matt

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