Russianplnelvr
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757 Production: When Will It End?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 8:19 am

The 757 has been in production for almost 20 years. How much longer can it go? Does anyone know when Boeing plans to stop the production line, and if so, what would take its place?

 
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RE: 757 Production: When Will It End?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 8:21 am

I read that they were going to stop,but with all the NW 753's on order it won't be anytime soon. Just my 2 cents.
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RE: 757 Production: When Will It End?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 8:22 am

Why would Boeing want to stop production of one of the best performing airliners ever built?

The 747 has been in production for more than 30 years, but they're not going to stop anytime soon. Why should they stop the 757?

The 757's performance is unmatched. It's one of United's favorite aircraft.

While it doesn't have a very big role in the rest of the world. It is the PERFECT aircraft for operations in the US (mainly transcontinental).

Boeing will not be ending production anytime soon. Infact, Boeing is evaluating the possibility for a 757-200X which would have improved performance, new engines, and new interior.
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RE: 757 Production: When Will It End?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 8:25 am

Why would they stop production of a great fuel efficent plane. I dont see them stopping in the forseeable future.
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RE: 757 Production: When Will It End?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 8:28 am



The 757 is a great aircraft. But its geting old. Maybe I should have expanded my original question.
Do you think the proposed 757-200x will have an upgraded cockpit with LCD screens replacing the current CRT displays?

 
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RE: 757 Production: When Will It End?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 8:33 am

I for one hope they're in production for many more years. I have a fetish for the long and lean planes- 757's and MD-80's being my favorite.

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RE: 757 Production: When Will It End?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 9:04 am

NEVER!!

at least i hope not!
 
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RE: 757 Production: When Will It End?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 9:10 am

Russianplnelvr,

The only thing that is outdated about the 757 is its computers, and I am sure one day Boeing will update it with a fully glass cockpit.

Everything else in the 757 is still up to todays standards.

The 757 is not very old. 20 years is nothing. The 737 has been around since 1968, and the production is nowhere near ending.

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RE: 757 Production: When Will It End?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 9:12 am

I hope they are NEVER put out of production. I think the 757 is the best plane ever built. I LOVE everyhting about it. My forum name would be American757 but I think it's already taken.

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RE: 757 Production: When Will It End?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 9:15 am

Actually the average production length of SPECIFIC models lasts about 20 years. For example the 737-200 was only in production for about 20 years, and then was shut down, but other variants of the 737 still remained in production.

I think what he means is when will production of the 757-200 itself end? Production of the 753 should not end till about 2014. But the 752 has been around for 20 years, and so is, by Boeing's normal standards, due for shutdown or replacement.

IF a 757-200X or LR comes into existence, -200 production will end, and all production will shift over to the X or LR product, which if it were started today should last until 2022.

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RE: 757 Production: When Will It End?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 9:40 am

I don't know either because they are still making 757's for ATA, Continental, Northwest(future) and other airlines. It's really good I don't know when it will end.
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RE: 757 Production: When Will It End?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 9:45 am

Hi:

I read on a magazine that Boeing has plans for develope a 757 ERX for long haul routes or develope a 757 Business Jet. Also the 757 is perfect for Presidential plane.

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RE: 757 Production: When Will It End?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 9:46 am

No way! The 757 doesn't have any real competition and airlines might need that type of aircraft and the 757 will be the ONLY way to go.
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RE: 757 Production: When Will It End?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 9:47 am

I'm surprised that none of the UK based budget airlines operate it on some of their busy routes, eg Easyjet to BCN, NCE or AMS. They used to be very popular with the UK charter operators. Are they still?
 
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RE: 757 Production: When Will It End?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 10:13 am

At Hawaiian, our CEO-to-be has said that he expects to order new 757's to supplement our fleet of new 767's arriving now.

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RE: 757 Production: When Will It End?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 10:24 am

The 757 will be built for a long time. The 200 model might get a new cockpit, but besides that, it is a very fuel effiencient a/c that makes money for airliners. The production run for the 707 was 35-40 years.
 
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RE: 757 Production: When Will It End?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 11:04 am

The 757 is a friggin awsome plane.

One tidbit for GA pilots: it's wingtip vorticies are comparable to a 747's in terms of strength, although for ATC purposes it is classified as a 'medium' sized aircraft. Meaning they will put less space between you and the 757 than they would between you and a 747. I learned this in AOPA's magazine years ago.
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RE: 757 Production: When Will It End?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 12:13 pm

I think they might last awhile.
American just took delivery of line number ONE THOUSAND- that's right, 1000. Go Boeing.

I think it could use a bit of a freshening too. New interior and engines, especially. In twenty years, you would think we would have come far enough to make that good plane even MORE fuel efficient... 20 years have had a lot of technological developments....

Maybe some alloys, composites (oh nevermind, they fall off)...

My question is that with the airlines cutting back, and no longer expanding, how can ANY of the planes continue to be produced? Who needs a 767 when you can't fill it? Who wants a 777 (well, United sure doesn't) when you can't fill it? No one wants a 717 because it's an orphan. No one wants a 747 because, for crying out loud, you couldn't even fill the 767...

And, with most airlines being near completion of fleet renewal programs, that's not an option either. AA is done for the most part. MD-11, DC-10 are gone. A300 is here to stay. Delta's L10s are gone. CO's old biggies are gone. Northwest is the only airline that flies REALLY old airplanes, and they went Airbus.

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RE: 757 Production: When Will It End?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 3:07 pm

Don't expect the 757 to be out of production soon.

Not with potential improvements such as a 777-style cockpit, new wings and newer-technology engines within the next 6-7 years. This will possibly allow a 757-300 variant that could have nearly 6,000 nautical mile range--enough for transatlantic operations.
 
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RE: 757 Production: When Will It End?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 3:27 pm

I was just going to say they reached 1000. They should look out because Airbus are on the attack. Remember one pilot can fly the A318/A319/A320/A321 and the A330/A340. That saves airlines big $$$$$.

 
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RE: 757 Production: When Will It End?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 4:00 pm

Hkgspotter1 wrote:
Remember one pilot can fly the A318/A319/A320/A321 and the A330/A340. That saves airlines big $$$$$.


Nope!
They have the same cockpit layout, but each pilot must be certified on each type.

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RE: 757 Production: When Will It End?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 4:00 pm

One pilot could fly the A318-321 series and the 330 & 340, but probably wouldn't. They are different type ratings (as opposed to the 757-767 common type rating), and most airlines have pilots bid one type or the other.

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RE: 757 Production: When Will It End?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 5:12 pm

There is still no competition for the 757, either the -200 or -300. The A321 could compete with 752 on short routes but doesn't offer the flexibility to operate long transcon and intercontinental flights like the 752 does. The A330-200 is a different type of beast altogether from the 757-300...similar seating capacity but longer range, widebody layout and of course higher costs.
 
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RE: 757 Production: When Will It End?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 5:29 pm

The only way the 757 will get the axe is if "the market" asks for a 737-variant to replace it, as it seems to me the only logical replacement.

Like a 737-900 IGW/ER, or a 737-1000.
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RE: 757 Production: When Will It End?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 8:39 pm

I'm basically going to repeat what everyone else has been saying. The 757 is a powerful high-performance take off jet. It's range is it's greatest asset. Remember, it is replacing DC-10s for NW. The 757 is my second favorite plane (L-1011 takes first). Suffice to say they're rocketships and in no danger of being replaced.
 
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RE: 757 Production: When Will It End?

Wed Jan 23, 2002 3:41 am

ILUV767,
A pilot can fly the A319/320/321/330/340 without restriction subject to receiving "differences" training on each type which is basically a groundschool course and sim ride.

In the UK Airtours, Monarch and British Midland operate a mixed fleet flying policy, where crews fly the A320/321/330.

I believe Canada 3000, Swissair and Sabena also took advantage of this commonality between the A320 and A330.

I also believe Cathay Pacific crews fly both the A330 and A340, but I'm not 100% on that.

Don't confuse US carriers' restrictive contractual/union agreements which prohibit mixed fleet flying, with actual type ratings!

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RE: 757 Production: When Will It End?

Wed Jan 23, 2002 4:46 am

AA737-823:

Why do you insist that Nortwest *went* Airbus? Several previous posts (i.e. just read a few above your post) mentioned that NW is one of the airlines buying the 757-300! (not to mention more 744s...).

Kinda funny to say the went Airbus, huh?
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RE: 757 Production: When Will It End?

Wed Jan 23, 2002 7:04 am

The Boeing 757 is a great airplane. I don't see why Boeing should stop production. Look at the DC-9 series. It was started in the 60's and just ended a couple years ago with the delivery of the last DC-9-83 (The Spirit of Long Beach) to TWA. So, hopefully Boeing won't end productin of the 757 anytime soon!

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RE: 757 Production: When Will It End?

Wed Jan 23, 2002 8:13 am

The 757 is in a class of it's own. But I will agree that it does need a new cockpit. The 757 line will be humming for quite some time.
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RE: 757 Production: When Will It End?

Wed Jan 23, 2002 8:16 am

There is more to consider than just the 757 if they are to upgrade cockpits. Many airlines (s/a American Airlines) rely on the 757-767 joint type rating (pilots are shared between a/c because of thier almost identical cockpit design). So I don't believe Boeing will just update the 757, leaving the 767 behind, and alot of airlines in the dark.

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RE: 757 Production: When Will It End?

Wed Jan 23, 2002 8:19 am

Agreed.
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