BestWestern
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Ryanair And The 717?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 7:15 pm

Boeing have 30 ex TWA 717's to find a new home for, and pronto. If not the new and second hand values of the fleet will drop, bringing the entire production line into doubt.

The 717-200 in a high density layout has a capacity of 129. Ryanair has configured their 737-200 in a high density capacity of 130. They have 21 737-200's in their fleet at present.

Ryanair always is looking for the deal of the century, especially one that allows them to reduce variable costs. Boeing are desperate to find a new large volume 717 operator.

The 717 has also the perfect range capabilities for FR, with the longest 732 operation being approx two hours in length.

Air Tran has prooven the viability of the 717 in low cost operations.

Ryanair already operates a twin fleet operation, and is looking at bringing on a third variance, the 737-300.

The 30 717's are available NOW, enabling Ryanair to rapidly replace the 732.

In Short, Ryanair always look for a deal. How desperate are boeing to keep the 717 production line in operation?
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RE: Ryanair And The 717?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 7:34 pm

I hope they do buy the 717 - I'd love to see one in Ryanair colours in the UK !
 
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RE: Ryanair And The 717?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 7:40 pm

Interesting, although I haven't a clue.

They've recently let it be known that they are, once again, looking to purchase NEW a/c, and have asked Airbus and Boeing to outline the options.

In that sense, perhaps the 717 isn't so unlikely.

Ryanair have identified 'servicing costs' as quite a big priority, which is why they are apparently looking again at brand-new a/c (as well as the fact that prices are now beginning to look more attractive).

Purely from an enthusiast's point of view, I would like to see some no-frills airlines opt for the A320; I had a great time on Jetblue last summer!

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RE: Ryanair And The 717?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 10:17 pm

British European were also looking at the 717-200
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RE: Ryanair And The 717?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 10:27 pm

Turnarounds on the 717 tend to be slow because of the exits being via the rear doors only. I would think that this would count against it in Ryanair's eyes.
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RE: Ryanair And The 717?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 10:39 pm

banco wrote ...Turnarounds on the 717 tend to be slow because of the exits being via the rear doors only. I would think that this would count against it in Ryanair's eyes.

I recently flew 4 legs on Hawaiian whilst island jumping, all were on the 717, and we didnt use the rear exits on any of the flights, all exiting was done out of 1L as per most airlines.

I think that the 717 is a fantastic plane, I absolutely loved it, loved the glass cockpits, loved the descents of almost divebombing proportions.... great plane.

Jer
 
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RE: Ryanair And The 717?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 10:46 pm

Ah, sorry. Should have been the other way around.
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RE: Ryanair And The 717?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 11:29 pm

Does the 717 even have a rear airstair (DC-9-like)?

Anyway Ryanair getting 717s is as likely as Southwest getting em. i.e. not.
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RE: Ryanair And The 717?

Wed Jan 23, 2002 2:10 am

I thought Ryanair were all going modern for their flights to that airport called Frankfurt which is on the other side of the country in contrast and employing VC10s or the Comet??!! Big grin

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RE: Ryanair And The 717?

Wed Jan 23, 2002 3:25 am

Fact is that the 30 ex-AA 717's are not yet placed with a new customer (or not announced). It could be Ryanair or another airline like Aeromexico or another that is interested in the 717, who knows. I am wondering why Boeing hasn't make an announcement if they know where this 717's will go...
 
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RE: Ryanair And The 717?

Wed Jan 23, 2002 6:04 am

Hello BestWestern,

Most interesting "idea" I have heard in ages. I wouldn't say no to seeing a B717 in EIKY instead of the B737-200.

Now if only MO'L thought along the same lines.

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RE: Ryanair And The 717?

Thu Jan 24, 2002 2:49 am

Tehan,

I remember that someone else had an idea about 717s in EIKY.....

Anyway.... we expect an answer tomorrow. Most probably not 717's.
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RE: Ryanair And The 717?

Thu Jan 24, 2002 3:24 am

BestWestern,

Teahan, not tehen. Anway, why can't people just call me Jeremiah/Jer or whatever. I would change my username if I could.

A PROJECT, A PROJECT which I got an A, got me 1st in my school and got me to the County Finals. At least it beat 99% of other business idea, errr the usual making calendars and trying to show how you could sell them profitably. I kind of regret lying to a few people, however it go me the infomation I wanted.

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RE: Ryanair And The 717?

Thu Jan 24, 2002 3:42 am

Actually, it's looking increasingly likely that TWA/American's 717's will end up at the combined Hawaiian/Aloha and Midwest Express.

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