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Alitalia Back To Montreal?

Wed Jan 23, 2002 1:04 am

A member of the Montreal airport board made reference to a possibility of AZ coming back to Montreal for a weekly flight...

This looks indeed possible considering that AZ will be in YYZ this summer with 6 weekly flights to FCO, with B767-300.

Furthermore, there are over 200,000 Italians in Montreal, and if you add descendants, additional tourists, business ties, you've got enough demand for Italy flights year-round...and the Italian community is outraged that AC made a promise of 5 weekly non-stops to FCO and MXP from Montreal, but has since cancelled them and move them (predictably!) to YYZ...

Anyway what do you think?

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RE: Alitalia Back To Montreal?

Wed Jan 23, 2002 4:29 am

Hi Mark, in the summer, Toronto gets a daily AZ 767-300ER from MXP and a daily 747-200 from FCO. Since the 747-200's are going to be leaving the fleet soon, I wonder what equipment will be flown to YYZ on the Rome route. The problem with Italy-Canada flights and possibly why there currently isn't service to YUL on a mainline carrier, is that I think it's mainly a tourist market, not many business pax. Anyways it's good to hear YUL getting more airlines, although the airport is not the greatest, the city is really nice.... Schwarz's Deli all the way!

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RE: Alitalia Back To Montreal?

Wed Jan 23, 2002 6:32 am

YUL would be great, a nice addition, especially with all the cuts AZ is making. This summer only NYC, BOS, ORD, and MIA, all with MD11s.
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RE: Alitalia Back To Montreal?

Wed Jan 23, 2002 9:13 am

I would be surprised to see Alitalia return to Montreal with their own aircraft. I could see a codeshare with Air France - Skyteam. Alitalia would have to build up its Italian hubs and attract connecting traffic from Canada through Italy.

Traffic between Italy and Canada matured years ago. Italians living in Montreal today no longer have the ties they used to have to Italy. In addition to Italy, they are also now vacationing in other places - Mexico, Florida, Switzerland for example. The Italian market was heavily VFR (visiting friends and relatives). That has dropped off.

Years ago, Alitalia provided 747 service to Montreal. They also provided connections in Rome to the Middle East and Africa. These connecting passengers now transit other European/North African airports.

The local Italian community was "outraged" when Alitalia downguaged to an MD-11...until Alitalia's PR department said it was a great aircraft. The Italian community was "outraged" when Alitalia pulled out of Montreal. Even a Canadian parliamentarian voiced his opinion - forgetting that he represented Canada and that Canadian Airlines still served the market at the time. Alitalia downgraded its Toronto service to seasonal - although they continue their codeshare with Air Canada (until the Skyteam agreement begins).

Air Transat continues to serve the Montreal - Italy charter market. The tour operator caters to tourists and VFR traffic.

Air Canada did have this route on their wish list but, like most other global carriers, these wish lists have been moved to a lower priority. Keep in mind that Air Canada still has a code-share agreement with Alitalia and, if the traffic materializes, one of these carriers will operate the route. From Toronto, Air Canada currently has only four flights per week each to Rome and Milan.

In the mean time, scheduled passengers to Italy are connecting in London, Frankfurt, Paris, Zurich, and Toronto.
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RE: Alitalia Back To Montreal?

Wed Jan 23, 2002 3:12 pm

Thank you all for your replies.

Schedules are showing AZ going to b763 for YYZ-FCO in the summer on a 6 weekly basis.

Again, the whole Canada-Italy market is one weird route,


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