USAIRDC9
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Chimes In Cabin!

Thu Jan 24, 2002 4:15 am

Hi,
Can someone please explain to me the different chimes in the cabin of an aircraft and what they mean?



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deltaflyertoo
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RE: Chimes In Cabin!

Thu Jan 24, 2002 4:36 am

I only know 2. The one that resembles a doorbell chime is the crew call. When the flight attendants call each other or the pilots that is the chime you are hearing. The single chime means someone is calling for a f/a. There are a couple of more chimes that sound just like this one, but I don't know what they mean. On certain a/c, if you look at a certain part in the galley you can see different color lights that light up for different chimes. Anyone know if this is the captain's way of communicating to the rest of the crew?
 
SJCguy
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RE: Chimes In Cabin!

Thu Jan 24, 2002 4:46 am

Single chime is a passenger calling. Double chime is usually made by the captain during take off and landing once the bird reaches 10,000 ft.- indicates to the f/a to tell pax they can use/discontinue use of electronics. When a f/a calls another one, they are usually supposed to do the double chime twice.

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Braniff727
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RE: Chimes In Cabin!

Thu Jan 24, 2002 5:06 am

It may vary by airline. NW double-ding on landing is "Cleared for Landing." Five dings is ditching, aka bend-over-and-kiss-your-butt-goodbye.

Also at NW there usually is no audible indication of flight level. When the green light comes one it means they are above 10,000 ft, and it goes off again under 10,000 feet.
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corsairf/a
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RE: Chimes In Cabin!

Thu Jan 24, 2002 5:19 am

About different lights, on Corsair B747/737 the blue one is pax call, the orange one a call from the lav (pax call/fire alarm) and the pink one call from a crew member(fa or pilots) and if it flashes it is an emegency call.
 
Arsenal@LHR
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RE: Chimes In Cabin!

Thu Jan 24, 2002 5:57 am

Dont forget the chime that goes off when the seatbelt signs light up.  Big thumbs up

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PanAm747
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RE: Chimes In Cabin!

Thu Jan 24, 2002 6:51 am

For DL I believe it is:

Single: Pax Call
Double: Above 10,000ft. crew call
3 or 5: Cleared to land/Final approach
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BlueShamu330s
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RE: Chimes In Cabin!

Thu Jan 24, 2002 7:04 am

And the chime which always coincides with 1,000ft to go to cleared level, is actually the bun oven to let the crew know the bread rolls are ready  Big thumbs up

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cdfmxtech
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RE: Chimes In Cabin!

Thu Jan 24, 2002 7:15 am

CorsAir FA is correct!!

...blue one is pax call, the orange one a call from the lav (pax call/fire alarm) and the pink one call from a crew member...
 
azjubilee
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RE: Chimes In Cabin!

Thu Jan 24, 2002 7:42 am

Every aircraft and airline have different procedures, therefore there is no set plan for chimes.

I can tell you on the Avro, in Mesaba operation, a double chime are the FA's communicating. A singe chime is a passenger calling a FA. At 500 feet agl or when it is smooth, whichever comes first the pilot not flying turns off the seat belt sign and immediately turns it back on (quickly) to indicate to the FA's that it is ok to get out of their jumseats to start the service. The PNF does the same thing, at 10,000 feet to indicate the sterile cockpit procedures are over as well as the electronic device announcement must be made. Upon landing when the gear is selected down, the PNF also performs the chime with the seatbelt to indicate being close to landing. When we chime the FAs to talk to them using the cabin call button, it is a double chime to them and the pick up the interphone and speak. When they call us for any reason from the back it is a single chime, but a specific light illuminates, wether it is a cabin call, emergency or ground call. So, it is very aircraft specific as you call tell as well as airline procedure specific.

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rootsgirl
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RE: Chimes In Cabin!

Thu Jan 24, 2002 7:49 am

Different chimes, according to the carrier. At my airline pax call usually always single chime, high/low f/a station to f/a station. Hi/hi/lo f/a to purser and Capt. to purser. We always used 4 chimes as a sign for cabin crew to be seated and strapped for take off and landing.

Though, recently, we ammended it because at another carrier 4 chimes meant "emergrency". We hired a lot of f/a's from this other carrier and to avoid confusion we changed it.
 
IAHERJ
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RE: Chimes In Cabin!

Thu Jan 24, 2002 7:50 am

At Continental/Express, the chimes are as follows. The doorbell is front F/A to back F/A, or from Cockpit. The single chime/ding (depending on aircraft) indicates either a sign change (seatbelt or smoking sign of or on) or a passanger call button. At 10,000 the captain will normally give two chimes/dings by releasing the no smoking sign then turning it back on again, thus the two dings. This will be associated with a blue steril cockpit light over the cockpit door. The light is on below 10,000 and off above 10,000 roughly. Below 10,000 the flight attendants should not call the cockpit unless there is an emergency. If they do call, the pilots might take a bit longer to answer the call as they are prone to be more busy below 10,000.
Returning through 10,000 feet on landing, the cockpit crew will turn on the steril (blue) light but not necessarily issue a chime with it. 10 minutes from touchdown the cockpit crew will give the flight attendants 2 dings (again the no smoking sign off, then on) and the flight attendants will start with their "could you please help in preparing the cabin for landing" announcements.

On a side not, it upsets me when the flight attendants get the two bells and then announce to the passangers that "we've been cleared to land". Amazingingly stupid. Ten minutes can easily be 40 miles from the airport and you are normally cleared to land about 5 miles from the end of the runway. I wish they would quit that crap as it makes the pilots look stupid if there is an unexpected hold/go around or something of that nature. "But I thought we were cleared to land a few minutes ago, why are we climbing?"

On the ERJ, passing 10,000 feet going up and down, we have a special button that gives a doorbell sound. It gives no light on the pa system so the F/A knows to look for the steril light and make an announcement. Some pilots use that button twice for the two bells 10 minutes from landing. Most use the no-smoking sign as I do. It makes 2 real bell sounds. 4 bells at COEX is prepare for inpact and 2 ding-dongs can confuse someone as being 4 bells. I like to keep is simple.
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azjubilee
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RE: Chimes In Cabin!

Thu Jan 24, 2002 7:53 am

One more thing, don't let the FA's fool you when they announce that we have been cleared to land. For example on NW, when the double chime comes, the FA's announce "ladies and gentlemen we have just been cleared to land, please make sure that your seat belts are facend, tray table are returned to their upright and locked position and foot rests are stowed. The FA's will be making their last cabin check prior to landing. We will be on the ground shortly."

I find it funny, that people have no idea that we really weren't just cleared to land. In most cases we aren't cleared to land until about 5 miles out on tower frequency. Approach can't clear you to land and we communicate with them until the marker, which is about 5-6 miles out.

The chime is just to get everyone to sit down (which they already should be doing, because the seatbelt sign has been on the entire decent, but people never pay attention) and prepare for landing, as it is going to happen very soon.


AZJ
 
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RE: Chimes In Cabin!

Thu Jan 24, 2002 7:56 am

The full chime is the "door bell" type HI-LO. That is a cockpit crew call. A double HI-LO is FA to FA. In both cases the red light comes on on the ACP - area call panel. The pax call is the HI note only and lights the blue light on the ACP. A change in the seatbelt sign produces a LO note. Sterile cockpit comes at top of descent and top of climb. This is usually a flickering of the seat belt sign twice and produces a double LO note. I hope this helps.
 
concorde1518
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RE: Chimes In Cabin!

Mon Jan 28, 2002 9:07 am

Yeah, I was told that we were "cleared for landing" by NWA F/A's, but I vividly remember us turning base and final. LOL.
 
azjubilee
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RE: Chimes In Cabin!

Mon Jan 28, 2002 9:10 am

In some cases you really could have been cleared for landing, but chances are very likely it was just the FA's telling everyone to get ready. I guess there aren't very many professional ways to say it, so they just say that. I think most airlines to the same thing... it isn't isolated to NW. Because there is no way other than the crew upfront making a noise, with a chime etc... that the FA's know the minute we receive a landing clearance.


AZJ
 
deltaflyertoo
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RE: Chimes In Cabin!

Mon Jan 28, 2002 1:01 pm

IAHERJ: I totally know what you are talking about with the clear the land part. I always like to sit behind the wings and it is obvious that when you are in a descent, but when the flaps haven't been deployed yet, I can recognize landmarks that put us a good 40-60 miles out you can't even see cars yet and you hear the f/as making the announcement "we've been cleard to land" it is too funny. On many of occasions after we've supposedly been cleared to land I've felt us climbing, circling, and overall just hitting more delays. I know what is happening up front, but it does raise a question for those who don't fly as often: they have to wonder what is going on if we have supposedly been cleared to land.

They should get a new announcement and be told not to say that.
 
Shawn Patrick
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RE: Chimes In Cabin!

Mon Jan 28, 2002 1:04 pm

Usairdc9, nobody respects me either.  Sad
 
flightsimfreak
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RE: Chimes In Cabin!

Mon Jan 28, 2002 1:29 pm

Usairdc9... You'v posted a whole 25 posts? Try 8 thread starters, 101 replies for a total of 109 posts. I've only posted um... 19 thread starters, and 244 others for a total of 263. I'm not on anyone's respected user list, and I've posted about 5/2's as many times as you... stop whining. Usually, you have to do something respectable to become a respected user... whitty reply, interesting topic... something. Oh... and you've been a member for 14 days. I've been a member for 1 year and 91 days... a lot mor than 5/2's as long as you... Get a life.
 
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RE: Chimes In Cabin!

Mon Jan 28, 2002 2:06 pm

Azjubilee -- In some cases you really could have been cleared for landing, but chances are very likely it was just the FA's telling everyone to get ready. I guess there aren't very many professional ways to say it, so they just say that. I think most airlines to the same thing... it isn't isolated to NW. Because there is no way other than the crew upfront making a noise, with a chime etc... that the FA's know the minute we receive a landing clearance.

Not all airlines have F/A's say cleared for landing....On every US Airways, American & jetBlue flight that I have taken, a whole lot, the F/A's say something along the lines of "We are beginning our final descent into..." It's much more professional and accurate. More airlines should catch on in my opinion.


FlightSimFreak -- Usairdc9... You'v posted a whole 25 posts? Try 8 thread starters, 101 replies for a total of 109 posts. I've only posted um... 19 thread starters, and 244 others for a total of 263. I'm not on anyone's respected user list, and I've posted about 5/2's as many times as you... stop whining. Usually, you have to do something respectable to become a respected user... whitty reply, interesting topic... something. Oh... and you've been a member for 14 days. I've been a member for 1 year and 91 days... a lot mor than 5/2's as long as you... Get a life.

I think that you are the one that needs to get a life. That wasn't the main point of this post, and there was no need whatsoever for you to harrass him. As you said, there is a reason that people are not respected. Maybe you should remember that if you ever want to be.

Usairdc9 -- You are a USAir fan, so you can't be all bad, start more threads like this one, and you will be respected by many. Don't let jerks like FlightSimFreak irritate you too bad, just ignore him and many of the members like him.

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azjubilee
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Jetbluerules

Mon Jan 28, 2002 2:48 pm

NW does make the "we've started our initial decent into the ___ area ... blah blah blah" but then alot close to landing they make the "we've been cleared for landing" hoohaa.

I guess they could say "we are soon to receive our landing clearence as noted by the chime" blah blah blah.

Maybe not.


AZJ
 
azjubilee
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Flightsimfreak

Mon Jan 28, 2002 2:51 pm

Since when did this place become a popularity contest? Who the heck cares if you have respected user votes or whatever the heck that is? Does it get you ahead in life? will it get you a job? does it make you happy in life to know you are a respected user? THis is just a board for airline etc... discussion. Even that I wonder about sometimes with the rediculous stuff that floats around here. Dude... relax, get a life and contribute something worthwhile.



AZJ