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(Another) What If You Could From An Airline? Qst.

Wed Aug 11, 1999 5:43 am

Hi again,
Now, what if you could form your own airline, but this time with an unlimited number of destinations and aircraft. Which aircraft would you have, and which destinations and hubs would you fly them out of? What kind of fares would you have, and special services?
Have fun.
DL 604
 
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RE: (Another) What If You Could From An Airline? Qst.

Wed Aug 11, 1999 6:40 am

Aicraft i would use: 732 and 733, 727, 741,1,2,3,4 , 752, 763, 772, A320, A319.
Hubs: COS, ONT, ORD, BGR
cities: DEN, PHX, BUF, LAX, SFO, IAH, DFW, SEA, SAN, ABQ, LAS, GRT, GFK, FAR, MCI, STL, MSP, OKC, OMA, DES, OTM, MKE, MSN, CVG, MEM, ATL, MSY, GRB, CLE, PIT, CMH, MIA, TPA, PIE, MCO, CLT, BUF, ROC, SYR, EWR, MDT, BWI, IAD, DCA, PHL, JFK, LGA, BOS, MHT, PDX, PWM, LGW, CDG, ORY, DUB, MAN, GVA, FRA, MUC, ZRH, BSL, AMS, CPH, CGN, HAM, FCO, MXP, PRG, VIE, WAW, NCE, BKK, HGK, TPE, NRT, ITM, PEK, SIN, SYD, MEL, ARN, AKL, AMM, ANC, ASE, GRU, GIG, EZE, LIM, MEX, CCS, SXM, SJU, SCL, YEG, YHZ, YUL, YVR, YYC, YYZ, ZBV.
fARES: Fares would be just like UA's fares. PTVs on 320s, 722s, 772, and 744. $3.00 beer, $5.00 wine, $4.00 margaritas. Frequent flier program. Own credit card like DL's Skymiles card. Business class in all aircraft along with first class. Would have a club room like the AA admiral or DL Crown Room in COS, BWI, BGR, LAX, YYZ, ONT, BOS, BKK, ZRH, LGW, AND GRU.
 
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RE: What Would You Call It?

Wed Aug 11, 1999 7:03 am

I forgot to ask what you would call your airline, also. Think of a nice name 
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RE: (Another) What If You Could From An Airline? Qst.

Wed Aug 11, 1999 7:09 am

Ok, i really like these posts!

heres mine:

Hubs: phx, dfw, and sea, bos.

Citties: lax, san, sna, sea, jfk, phx, bos, dfw, slc, yul, atl, mia, iah, sfo, rno, las, cos, yyz, yvr, cdg, lhr, hkg, tus, elp[el paso???], abq, iad, ord, den, stl, mem[memphis?????], mex, msp, oma, ams, bru, yyc, clt, cvg, cle, cmh, fra, hnl, isp, muc, ont, yow, fco, ywg, mke, sju, lis, sjc, psp, anc, sdy, fco, zrh, syr, ogg, aca, hmo.

And remember i would NOT start out like this, i would start out as I have posted on the other post about your own airline [B757s and 4 cities].

for flights within the US and Canada, I would use B757-200s B757-300s Airbus A320s and A319s, and B767-200s. To europe, i would use mostly B777s, but also a few 767s and A340s. To asia, 777s.

Do you think these Airplanes would fit my routes, if not how could i improve?
 
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Oh And Also!

Wed Aug 11, 1999 7:19 am

we would have excelent First class, and coach would be very comfortable seats [more than the average]. PTVs on all planes, so you can play games or wathc a movie if you wish. we would have a frequent flyer program. Our fares would be about them same as the avarge fare you get these days, or maby a little lower.

And let me assure you, you would NOT pay $400 for a bag of penuts and a coke, youd get a full meal, and 2 choices
 
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RE: American B757

Wed Aug 11, 1999 7:20 am

I think those planes fit those routes perfectly. You might want some 747s for those European routes, though. You were right about the El Paso designation, but I do not know about Memphis.
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RE: (Another) What If You Could From An Airline? Qst.

Wed Aug 11, 1999 7:24 am

Hub Airports: Columbus, OH and Birmingham, AL, and Oklahoma City

Cities served: (Domestic)
Tulsa, Topeka, Wichita, Omaha, Lincoln, Des Moines, Cedar Rapids, Sioux Falls, Duluth, Minneapolis/St. Paul, Fargo, Springfield, MO; Colorado Springs, Albuquerque, Amarillo, Lubbock, El Paso, Abilene, San Antonio, South Padre/ Harlingen, Dallas (Love), Houston (HOU), Austin, Shreveport, Baton Rouge, New Orleans, Jackson, Moblie, Montgomery, Huntsville, Little Rock, Atlanta, Savannah, Macon, Columbus, GA; Pensacola, Tallahassee, Jacksonville, Daytona Beach, Orlando, West Palm Beach, Sarasota, Tampa/St. Pete, Miami, Key West, Melbourne, Columbia, Charleston, SC; Greenville/Spartanburg, Charlotte, Raleigh/Durham, Greensboro, Winston/Salem, Memphis, Chattanooga, Knoxville, Nashville, Louisville, Lexington, Evansville, Indianapolis, Ft. Wayne, South Bend, Springfield, IL; Peoria, Bloomington/Normal; Chicago (Meigs), Milwaukee, Madison, Green Bay, Grand Rapids, Lansing, Flint, Detroit (City), Kalamazoo, Akron/Canton, Cleveland (Lakefront), Cincinnati (Lunken), Dayton, Toledo, Charleston, WV, Wheeling, Pittsburg, Harrisburg, Philadelphia, Allentown, Trenton, Dover, Baltimore, Washington National, Richmond, Roanoke, Charlotsville, Norfolk, Lynchburg, New York La Guardia, Newark, Albany, Buffalo, Syracuse, Rochester, Buffalo, Hartford, Providence, Boston, Manchester, Bangor, and Portland.

Cities Served: (International)
Monterrey, Cancun, Winnipeg, Toronto, Ottawa, Regina, Montreal, Nassau, and Freeport

Fleet: A319, A320, 757-200, ERJ-145, ERJ-135

Service: All A319/A320, and 757 would have wide dark blue leather seats in a 3x2 configuration for added room and 35" pitch. All these aircraft would also feature T.V.'s that retract from the overhead bins. All the ERJ aircraft would also have dark blue leather seats. There would be extra flight attendents in all aircraft for better service and a more personal experience. Large meals would be served on all flights 1hr. long and over and I would try and spend about $8.50 on each passenger. Shorter flights would feature small snacks, no pretzel mix, but good snacks. I would also implement a frequent flyer plan, have clubs in Columbus, Birmingham, and Oklahoma City, and have alliances with Virgin Atlantic and ALM.
 
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Addendum To 1st Post

Wed Aug 11, 1999 7:37 am

I also wanted to add that I would try to serve smaller, more convinient airports in large cities so people would not have to deal with a large commute to the city center. For example, Chicago's Meigs Field instead of ORD, or MDW, and Cleveland's Burke Lakefront Airport (right in downtown) instead of Cleveland Hopkins. Also, all planes would have one Premium Class, like Midwest Express.
 
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Sorry, I Must Add!

Wed Aug 11, 1999 8:38 am

As i just readfrom FLYcmh, I would also have only have 1 premium class like midwest express.
 
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RE: (Another) What If You Could From An Airline? Qst.

Wed Aug 11, 1999 9:50 am

to viwe my airlines route map go here

http://www.chicago.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=lax-jfk%2Clax-lhr%2Clax-fco%2Clax-ord%2Clax-fra%0D%0Alax-cai%2Clax-cdg%2Clax-hkg%2Clax-nrt%2Clax-syd%0D%0Asyd-mel%2Csyd-cpt%2Csyd-nrt%2Csyd-hkg%0D%0Acpt-xxx%2Ccpt-anm%2Ccpt-cai%2Ccpt-pyb%0D%0Apyb-syd%2Cnrt-hkg-pyb-cai-omo-fco-fra-cdg-lgw-jfk-ord-lax%0D%0Alax-las%2Clax-sfo%2Clax-mco%2Clax-ewr%2Clax-stl%0D%0Asfo-las-stl-mco-ewr-sea%2Cmco-lgw%2Cmco-cai%2Cmco-xxx-cpt-amn-pby-syd-hnl-lax%0D%0Aomo-jfk%2C%0D%0Athe-lax%2Cthe-jfk%2Cpee-lax%2Cpee-jfk%2Clhr-pee%2Ccpt-mnb&RANGE=&PATH-COLOR=&PATH-UNITS=nm&MARKER=1&RANGE-STYLE=best&RANGE-COLOR=&MAP-STYLE=&ETOPS=180&ETOPS=207

SoRRY couldnt get it to hyper link
here is my fleet list
ok 777-300,747-400SR,767-300/400,752,A340-400
Now where would i use them
On all transpan flights from lax i would use the 747-400. but going to syd from lax i would use a 777-300 with a 747-400.
on all contintal flights i would use the 757. On the around the world flights (theres two seprate oens) i would use a 747-400 on one day and a 777-300 another day (every other day). On the jfk- africa flights i would use a 747-400SR going once everyonther day.then on the inter africa flights i would use the A340/757.(i know a weird combo)
On the trans alantic flights 4 flights a day to each eroupen city
first a 767-300 then a 777-300,then a 747-400, then another 777-300
My service would be wonderfull free evry thing on board and i would have a camra so you can see what its like from the cockpit for landings and stuff.
and on some of my planes i would have an all econmy aircraft so people with less money can travle around too and i would have ptv on all aircraft...
i appoligize for my spelling but i cant do my spell checker due to the big big big BIG link. please goto it!!
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RE: (Another) What If You Could From An Airline? Qst.

Wed Aug 11, 1999 1:39 pm

Name: Alas (Wings in Spanish) Hubs: Mexico City and Guadalajara Mini hubs: Madrid (European Flights) - Buenos Aires (Some Latinamerican Flights) Fleet: (30) F-100, (40) A-320, (40) 757, (50) 767-300 ER, (50) A-340 Domestic Destinations: Acapulco, Aguascalientes, Cancún, Cd. Juárez, Cd. Obregón, Cd. Victoria, Chihuahua, Cozumel, Culiacán, Durango, El Bajío, Guaymas, Hermosillo, Ixtapa - Zihuatanejo, La Paz, Manzanillo, Mazatlán, Mérida, Mexicali, Monterrey, Oaxaca, Puerto Vallarta, Saltillo, San José del Cabo, Tapachula and Tijuana United States and Canadian Destinations: Atlanta, Boston, Chicago, Dallas, Detroit, Houston, Los Ángeles, Miami, Montréal, New York (Newark and J.F.K.), New Orleans, Orlando, Phoenix, San Diego, Toronto and Vancouver. Latinamerican Destinations: Guatemala, San Pedro Sula, Tegucigalpa, San Salvador, Managua, Havana, Santo Domingo, San Juan, Panamá, San José de Costa Rica, Caracas, Bogotá, Cali, Quito, Guayaquil, Lima, La Paz, Asunción, Río de Janeiro, São Paulo, Santiago de Chile and Montevideo. European Destinations: London, Manchester, Paris, Amsterdam, Dusseldorf, Frankfurt, Copenhague, Zurich, Vienna, Milan, Rome, Brussels, Athens, Lisbon, Barcelona, Valencia, Sevilla, Santander, Málaga, Palma and Tenerife. Asia and Ocenia: Tokio, Sydney and Auckland. Services: 2 classes for domestic flights, U.S flights (except for New York) and Centralmerican Flights. (Tourist and Business) 3 classes for International and Intercontinental flights (including New York and Canadian destinations) Tourist, Business and First. Alliances: Would be part of One World Alliance Regional Airline: Alas Regional (Subsidiary airline flying to minor Mexican cities) Fleet: (50) ATR-72 Joaquín   Mexico City / Ciudad de México
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RE: (Another) What If You Could From An Airline? Qst.

Wed Aug 11, 1999 2:03 pm

I would call my airline Unimerica Airlines. ATC callsign would be Unimerica. I put UA and AA together. I'm not too original. Also i would try to get my own terminal at COS. Becuz COS is small it only has 21 gates and thats not enough for a hub.
 
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My Australian Airline

Wed Aug 11, 1999 2:49 pm

O.K., here's my ideas

Name: Australian Airline Systems
Colours: An all over navy blue with the Australian flag on the tail
Operations Hub: Brisbane I'ntl

I would try to make this airline even better than Qantas and Ansett. With complimentary drinks for all classes (Only 1 free booze drink, the rest you have to pay for and you can only have 3. That's the BAC limit on Australian roads). I'd like to have the food like a place you would go out to eat at. Where you can choose your own food, but not like the chicken or beef choice you get now. I want something better.

Phase 1
Aircraft: ERJ-145, Beech 1900D
Destinations: SYD OOL TSV CNS ROK MCY MKY ISA CNJ

A fully economy config for both aircraft types. A half decent snack or meal on longer flights and GOOD COMFORTABLE seats! :-)

Phase 2
Aircraft: Phase 1 + Boeing 717-200, Airbus A310-300
Destinations: Phase 1 + LDH NLK DRW MEL ADL POM AKL CHC

With the introduction of the A310 and B717 into the fleet, we would now have a buissines and first class capacity. This would mean an upgrade of meals throughout ALL classes.

Phase 3
Who knows??
 
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RE: (Another) What If You Could From An Airline? Qst.

Thu Aug 12, 1999 2:33 am

Alrighty, here is mine.

Aircraft : B737-800, B767-300, B747-400
Cities : LHR, LGW, MAN, CDG, NCE, MAD, BCN, FCO, LIN, MXP, ATH, MLA, BUD, FRA, MUC, HAM, TXL, HEL, OSL, CPH, ARN, BRU, ZRH, VIE, TLV, CAI, JNB, DEL, SIN, CGK, SYD, MEL, NRT, SEL, SVO, KUL, MNL, YYZ, YVR, YYC, JFK, BOS, IAD, IAH, LAX, SFO, SEA, ATL, ORD, MSP, MIA, GRU, GIG
Service : drinks are for free during flight, and also some club room at most airports I sserve.
Fares : comparing with SAB and KLM fares.

Regards,
G. van Beek
Breda - Holland
 
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My Airline Concept (please Read)

Fri Aug 13, 1999 10:52 am


Name: Excelsior Airways
Hubs (Domestic): Chicago O'Hare, LAX, JFK, Newark.
Hubs (International): London Gatwick, Schipol.
Cities (Domestic): Cincinnati, Detroit, SanFrancisco, Atlanta, Dallas Fortworth, Nashville, Orlando, Seattle, Honolulu, Kona, Hilo, Kauai, La Guardia, Dulles, Salt Lake City, Sky Harbor, San Diego, Portland.
Cities (International): Heathrow, CDG, Tolouse, Berlin, Madrid, Madeira, Lisbon, Athens, Rome, Prague, Bratislava, Austria, Morocco, Israel, Taiwan, Japan (all 3 islands), Bombay, Bankgok, Calcutta, South Africa, Brazil, Aruba, Venezuela, Keflavic (Iceland), Arlanda (Stockholm), Oslo, Finland, Montreal, Quebec, British Columbia.
Aircraft [Short Range]: Boeing 757-200ER, Boeing 757-300, Airbus A-300 Boeing 767-300, Airbus A-319, MD-90, A-330-200
Aircraft [Long-Range]: Boeing 747-400, Boeing 777-200IGW, L-1011-250.

Aircraft Specifics

MD-90: Used specifically as a domestic workhorse. This aircraft usually performs routes such as EWR-ORD, or ORD-LAX. It fitted to be as luxurious as possible without running up costs (for the passengers). It carries about 140 passengers. The first-class section is fitted with dark-blue leather seating and is 4-abreast. Coach section features Grey-n-blue (gray seat, blue top). The aircraft is powered by 2 V2500 engines producing 28,000 lbst. each.

A-319: Used specifically for mid-range hops. It supplements the other narrowbodies in the fleet. It is fitted as luxurious as possible. It carries seating for 110 passengers. First-class section features dark-blue leather seating, at 4 abreast. Coach is 6 abreast (Rows A, C, D, F are blue, Rows B, and E, are white). The aircraft is powered by 2 V2500 engines, each producing 26,000 lbst each. Additionally these aircraft are fitted like the Indian Airlines design, with the Dual-wheel bogies.

757-200ER: Used specifically as a domestic workhorse, she is fitted to carry about 170 passengers. It is fitted to be luxurious for most counts. The first-class section features 4-abreast, dark-blue leather-seating. Coach section features 6-abreast, White and Blue Seating (Rows A, C, D, and F are Blue colored, Rows B, E, are White. It's powered by RB-211-535's generating 43,100 lbst.

757-300: Used as a supplement to the 757-200. It's fitted with capacity for about 225 passengers. First Class, and Coach configuration (abreast/color) are the same, except for there being more seats. It is powered by RB-211's generating 43,500 lbst.

767-300: Used for transcontinental flights. The aircraft are configured to carry about 240 people in a comfortable configuration. It is configured in first-class, 6 abreast (2-2-2). Seats are dark gray sleeper seats. They feature personal screens (unfortunately the "canned" programs), and a remote-control/phone thingie (like they have on those Delta 767-300's). They have a long-seat-pitch. Coach seating features a 7 abreast-seating (2-3-2), seating. The seats aisle seats are blue (rows A,B,F,G), center rows are white (Rows C,D,E) They are powered by 2 Pratt-Whittney PW4000 series producing 56,000 lbst. each.

A-330-200: Used as a high-capacity transcontinental craft. She carries 255 passengers in 2-classes. First Class consists of 6 (2-2-2) abreast-seating, featuring Dark Grey leather sleeper seats (as on the 767-300s). Coach configuration is 8 abreast (2-4-2), seating config features dark gray seats with the tops being colored red. It is powered by 2 Pratt-Whitney PW-4168 engines, each producing 68,000 lbst. each.

L-1011-250: Used both as an overwater (From LAX-HNL) domestic and an overwater international aircraft. They are basically a bunch of L-1011s that were saved from the scrapper. They are refitted as the intercontinental L-1011-250's. It's designed to carry 250 people onboard. First class cabin is configured 2-2-2. Black leather sleeper seats with video screens and all! Coach is configured 2-4-2. Gray seats with red tops on them. Additionally they have footrests, and also are equipped with videoscreens (unfortunately "canned" programs). They are powered by 3 RB-211-524 engines producing 50,000 lbst. each.

777-200IGW: Used as an ETOPS capable long-ranged overwater, and transcontinental. Used mostly for international usage. All seats (both FC and Coach) have TV sets (Thank god allmighty, no "canned" TV!). She carries 305 passengers onboard, complying with the standard Boeing Co. Layout. It has Black seats in FC (2-2-2), Dark-Grey (2-3-2) in Buisness Class), and (3-4-3) gray-with-red-tops seats in Coach. She is powered by the most powerful variant of the GE90 family.

747-400 Used almost always for long-ranged flights. It carries 400 passengers. All seats have reclining capability. The FC and BC seats have little screens for TV (Unfortunately the 777 is the only one without Canned programs). It is 3-4-3 in coach, seats are dark-gray with red tops, in BC, the seats are 2-3-2, and dark gray, and 2-2-2 in First Class, and are black. The BC and FC seats can be turned into sleeper seats. The aircraft is configured with 4 Pratt-Whittney PW4056 engines, each producing 56,000 lbst. each.

Fleet Size
MD-90: 43
A-319: 44
757-200ER: 67
757-300: 36
767-300: 36
L-1011-250: 9
777-200IGW: 46
747-400: 46

Service: Headphones are free in both classes, the radio-sets have actually good music, the best of the '80's and '90's. Food selection in First-class consists of about 5 choices of appetizers, 10 choices of meals, and 4 choices of delicious desserts. Coach section includes KFC original chicken breasts, legs, and Honey-BBQ chicken wings (Go colonel, go colonel!  . This is also available on the FC menu. Domestic flights.

Colors: White painted fuselage with a Blue-MediumBlue, Light Blue stripe where the windows are lined up on.

-How do you like the idea?

-Lance

 
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RE: (Another) What If You Could From An Airline? Qst.

Fri Aug 13, 1999 11:26 am

here it goes,

Hubs- PIT CVG SFO Seattle

cities- not goin to even try to list them

Equipment- I would want a modern aircraft that can handle a wide variety of routes. My 2 first picks would be the 737-700 and 717. For international I would use 777's and 767-300ER's. For shorter commuter routes, EMB-120 and CRJ.
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RE: (Another) What If You Could From An Airline? Qst.

Fri Aug 13, 1999 3:27 pm

I would fly out of GUM (Guam, US Territory, USA).
This is my route map: http://www.chicago.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=GUM-BKK%2C+GUM-PER%2C+GUM-HKG%2C+GUM-SIN%2C+GUM-PEK%2C+GUM-SHA%2C+GUM-NGO%2C+GUM-KIX%2C+GUM-CGK%2C+GUM-MNL%2C+GUM-SYD%2C+GUM-MEL%2C+GUM-AKL%2C+GUM-SEL%2C+GUM-BNE%2C+GUM-CNS%2C+GUM-TPE%2C+GUM-LAX%2C+GUM-HNL%2C+GUM-SFO%2C+%0D%0A&RANGE=&PATH-COLOR=&PATH-UNITS=mi&RANGE-STYLE=best&RANGE-COLOR=&MAP-STYLE=
****cut and paste, people!**** I too, couldn't do the hyperlink thing (how DO you do that?)****

I would fly from GUM to:
BKK, PER, HKG, SIN, PEK, SHA, NGO, KIX, CGK, MNL, SYD, MEL, AKL, SEL, BNE, CNS, TPE, LAX, HNL, SFO.

I am interested in the 767-400 and 777-200 (yea, I know they're both expensive!), but the Airbus A330-200 is also looking VERY attractive!

I have yet to think about two vs three classes of service. The longest of my 'intra-Asia' routes is 3973nm (GUM-AKL), with the shortest being 1552nm (GUM-KIX)...any suggestions?!

My amenities:
>>AT THE AIRPORT<< Huge lounge (or club...whatever!), shower facilites, speedy check-in, fast, close, convenient connections to my other Asian flights.
>>ON THE PLANE<< Leather seats in the Premium Cabin(s), with headrests, footrests, and PTV's in every class. PVS (Personal Video System....same as VCR's) for the Premium Cabin(s) seats. Near the exits I would have a 'bar' similar to AF's on their long-haul fleet. Each would be stocked with small snacks, including a referigerated area for small finger sandwiches. Each flight would have two meals served in every class. For the Premium Cabin(s), prior to arrival, I would offer a 'Deli Service" with everything you'd need to build yourself a gourmet sandwhich with accompaniments.

Granted, GUM isn't exactly the --population center-- that HKG, NRT, or most any other Asian city is, so I would rely on the intra-Asia flights to "float my boat". I would also enter into code-shares with some of the smaller, yet still 'major' US carriers, such as US Airways, and America West Airlines. If possible, I would like to enter into agreements with some European airlines, such as VS, for the simple fact that they don't have much Asian presence compared to BA and other European "Flagship Carriers".

That's all for now...please let me know about the two/three class planes!

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