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Fairchild Dornier Jet And ERJ

Thu Jan 24, 2002 12:33 pm

I will be flying to Virginia on Delta (Atlantic Coast) and US Airways (Chautauqua Airlines) next week out on the Fairchild Dornier and returning on the ERJ-145. Can you describe any experiences on these types of planes?

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RE: Fairchild Dornier Jet And ERJ

Thu Jan 24, 2002 1:29 pm

Here are pictures of the interior of the ERJ. The lav is spacious and the seats relatively comfortable.

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RE: Fairchild Dornier Jet And ERJ

Thu Jan 24, 2002 1:41 pm

The Dornier has a bit more headroom and will out climb the ERJ. However the foreward speed is a lot less and it cruises only slightly faster than it's little brother, the Dornier 328 turbo-prop. The ERJ-145 will typically cruise around Mach .76 to Mach .78 while the Dornier 328 jet cruises at Mach .63. Don't know how quiet the Dornier is but it is probably a bit quiter than the ERJ. Food on the Dornier is anybodies guess. I believe you said your ERJ ride will be on Chataqua. I have no idea if they serve food on the ERJ. Eagle and Continental Express serve food at meal times on the ERJ's. The ERJ will probably use a jetway for boarding while the Dornier will be parked on the ramp like a turbo-prop. That's about all I can think of. Enjoy!
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RE: Fairchild Dornier Jet And ERJ

Thu Jan 24, 2002 2:10 pm

Here is a pic of the USEx Dornier328 Prop

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RE: Fairchild Dornier Jet And ERJ

Thu Jan 24, 2002 2:40 pm

I flew on a US Airways Express ERJ last week, and it was a nice flight. The airplane was glistening new, in absolutely spotless condition. The seats were soft grey leather, and the windows were nice and big, and conveniently located. I found the seats to give me a slight backache, but that's probably just me. We got the standard tiny little bag of mixed stuff and a cup of coke, but on the way back, Hillary noticed I'd drank all my coke and offered me the rest of an almost full can, so I think I actually got more than a full 12 oz, lol....when's the last time that's happened to anybody?

Overall, I liked the ERJ better than the CRJ. Better windows, 1 x 2 seating, but the seats aren't quite as comfortable. I can't wait to fly on a 328JET....I'm hoping to get the chance on Midwest Express sometime this spring though!
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RE: Fairchild Dornier Jet And ERJ

Thu Jan 24, 2002 2:45 pm

I just flew with Midwest Express (Skyway) on their 328JETs and found them to be fantastic. I think they are a bit wider and taller than the ERJ, edging it out as my new favorite RJ. I have been on American Eagle's ERJs and Comair and ASA's CRJ's.

I would be very curious to hear your opinion on the ERJ vs the 328JET since you will be flying on them both in a short time frame.
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RE: Fairchild Dornier Jet And ERJ

Thu Jan 24, 2002 3:28 pm

I flew a Great Plains Dornier 328 JET last week and the headroom is nice (nicer than the ERJ I've flown). Very decent little jet IMO. Ciao
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RE: Fairchild Dornier Jet And ERJ

Thu Jan 24, 2002 3:54 pm

Dornier Jet is very much overpowered on takeoff. It climbs pretty damn fast, but cruises relatively slow.

Just as a side note to the Dornier Jets.... United Express will begin using them on IAD-EWR starting 15Feb02 with 4 roundtrip flights a day.
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328JET Vs. ERJ 145

Thu Jan 24, 2002 8:55 pm

Well my opinion is slightly biased being a Technical Rep. for Fairchild/Dornier Do328 and Do728 project. However there are trade-off's between the ERJ-145 and the Do328JET, in my opinion the Do328 edges it our for the better airplane. Passenger standpoint-more room, Pilot standpoint-better avionics suite, mechanics standpoint-easier to work/maneuver around. The Do328 has milled wings which is very expensive but long term no fuel leaks, the ERJ can't say that. At 335 knots for the Do328TP and 400 knots for the Do328JET it's a slow jet but it climbs fast. The quality of vendor parts in the "Doinkers" is of higher quality in my opinion.

We will see who has the better 70 and 90 seater real soon folks Do728/928. I know I hype the products here allot but this is by far the best organization I have ever worked for. After turning wrenches for 16 years and given the opportunity to represent this fine organization as a Technical Representative, they are trying VERY hard to improve past discrepancies. Mainly Customer Support, this problem has been solved we offer 24/7 Global Support center now with onsite Rep support.

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RE: 328JET Vs. ERJ 145

Fri Jan 25, 2002 11:28 am

TechRep has very valid points. However I just got home from work an hour ago. I flew IAH-DRO (Durango Colorado) and back. The ERJ easily carried 50 passangers out to Durango which included a 50 minute taxi out from IAH due to weather and ATC delays in the Western departure sector. The flight out was 2 hours and 20 minutes in the air at a cruise speed of Mach .78 which gave us a ground speed of 400 Knots with a head wind componet of 50 knots. We landed with over 4,700 pounds of fuel and many happy passangers. The return trip took only 1 hour 45 minutes at 37,000 feet. A Donair 328 jet would not have been able to complete this trip segment like the ERJ.

That being said, I fully believe that the Dornier 728 will be the superier aircraft in its class. I hope my company elects to at least consider that aircraft in the future.
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RE: Fairchild Dornier Jet And ERJ

Fri Jan 25, 2002 11:31 am

Ironic that the 328 prop is one of the fastest and highest cruising models on the market while the 328JET is considered slow for a regional jet. If the 328JET is anything like its propeller cousin, its one hell of a solid a/c.

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