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Do Air Koryo Fly Any International Routes?

Fri Jan 25, 2002 10:35 pm

It must be the only airline that doesn´t struggle during worldwide financial crisis? Big grin

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RE: Do Air Koryo Fly Any International Routes?

Fri Jan 25, 2002 10:41 pm

Well, Beijing is a "major" destination - one to two flights a day, I think.
Macau SAR also gets the occasional weekly flight.
I have seen their IL62's in Bangkok.

Oh, and surely Moscow and Hanoi!  Big grin

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RE: Do Air Koryo Fly Any International Routes?

Fri Jan 25, 2002 10:47 pm

What I´ve heard, it´s impossible for a foreigner to travel at all with Air Koryo...  Smile

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RE: Do Air Koryo Fly Any International Routes?

Fri Jan 25, 2002 10:52 pm

No, it´s not, quite to the contrary: the only possibility for a "normal" foreigner to visit North Korea is via a government organised "package tour", i.e. you´re never alone, get to see only assorted places, never talk to locals etc. These tours, quite naturally, include Air Koryo flights.

If I remember correctly, they still serve Berlin SXF, via SVO. My brother´s English teacher did such a lovely tour last year, including all the goodies I described, and he flew on their IL62 from SXF.

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RE: Do Air Koryo Fly Any International Routes?

Fri Jan 25, 2002 10:54 pm

Well, I think you need some official invitation from someone powerful in N.Korea but I did see some "foreign" faces disembark from a Tu134 at Beijing.

As I waited for my flight back to HKG, I watched them load this thing up - full of TV's, electrical appliances and boxes of whatnots. Amazing. The passenger load was probably about 10-15 passengers though.

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RE: Do Air Koryo Fly Any International Routes?

Fri Jan 25, 2002 11:04 pm

Excerpt from http://www.lonelyplanet.com


"North Korea is a fascinating blend of George Orwell's 1984 and Cold War comic opera. From the ultra-clean showcase capital, where only hard-line party members are allowed to live and old people and pregnant women are excluded, to beautiful Paekdusan on the Chinese border where they are still rewriting history, there's enough weirdness in North Korea to gobsmack you. Frankly, any country that sees death as a non-issue when it comes to electing an eternal president deserves our full attention.

Like the South, North Korea has some exquisite national parks, and the country is almost completely unexploited by commercial tourism. That is part of its appeal. But the recent historic meeting between the hermetic leader of North Korea, Kim Jong Il, and his counterpart in South Korea suggets a Cold War thaw is on its way, if only slowly and cautiously. See it and it will be a memorable journey...if they let you in."

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RE: Do Air Koryo Fly Any International Routes?

Fri Jan 25, 2002 11:16 pm

>>>Well, I think you need some official invitation from someone powerful in N.Korea

Umm, sort of, but if you´re willing to cough up enough $$$ the "invitation" is included in the package.

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RE: Do Air Koryo Fly Any International Routes?

Fri Jan 25, 2002 11:21 pm

They fly to Beijing. I saw the Tu-154B2 in 2000 and IL-18 in 2001. Very nice.
 
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RE: Do Air Koryo Fly Any International Routes?

Fri Jan 25, 2002 11:46 pm

Beijing, Moscow, Macau, Bangkok, Shenyang and occasional charter flights to Nagoya and Seoul (no kidding).
 
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RE: Do Air Koryo Fly Any International Routes?

Mon Jan 28, 2002 6:31 am

I have updated infos regarding JS on www.747.ch under Airlines.

I flew with them last year from BJS into Pyongyang with their Il62. Everything was clean, friendly F/A and even OnBoard service.

The fly from Pyongyang into. Macau, Bangkok, Vladivostok, Shenyang and Beijing. Moscow and Berlin are nomore on regular basis. All other destinations on charter basis. I have seen also once Air Koryo Il62 at ZRH but for sure they fly also into destinations as Hanoi, Havanna etc.

The flights to Seoul I have seen written at the Timetable at Pyongyang Airport but I'm not sure if they really operate those flights. And if they do only for those trips to exchange people from south to north and vv. to let them visit their relatives...

Just to mention that North Korea is a great country and I'm not talking about Politics here. If you like you can see my pics on www.malaysia.ch and I have also other details on DPRK
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RE: Do Air Koryo Fly Any International Routes?

Mon Jan 28, 2002 7:20 am

It's been past policy to deny visas to all Americans visiting North Korea. Is this still the case?
 
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RE: Do Air Koryo Fly Any International Routes?

Mon Jan 28, 2002 7:24 am

I've seem them several times in ZRH in 2001 with an
IL-62 but no one could tell me why they fly approx. once every month to Zurich.
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RE: Do Air Koryo Fly Any International Routes?

Mon Jan 28, 2002 11:30 pm

Johnboy, actually the don't issue visas to Americans but I met some in Pyongyang. They where working for United Nations and where looking for those Missing in Action soldiers or how ever they are called but as you sad, normaly no US and South Koreans allowed to enter the country.

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I think the went for shopping at the Bahnhofstrasse or something like this. Government flight I guess of a aid flight sponserd by Swiss Covernment or Red Cross. Similar to the Beef the send over last year, but this was done by Ship into Nampo Harbor in North Korea...
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RE: Do Air Koryo Fly Any International Routes?

Tue Jan 29, 2002 12:35 am

As of 1998, Air Koryo flew international services to Bangkok, Beijing, Berlin, Macau, Moscow, Osaka, Sofia and Vladivostok. Of course, these routes were only on the "timetable" so not sure if they are scheduled or not. I know they definately go to Berlin, Beijing, Macau and Moscow, as I've seen their planes at these airports.

As of 1998, they had 8 Antonov An-24's, 2 IIyushin IL-18's, 4 IIyushin IL-62's, 3 IIyushin IL-76MD's, 2 Tupolev TU-134B's and 4 Tupolev TU-154B's.
 
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RE: Do Air Koryo Fly Any International Routes?

Tue Jan 29, 2002 1:59 am

cut out Berlin, Moscow, Osaka and Sofia. I think the Japanese Government doen't offer them any landingrights exept for special flights since the North Koreans shot this rocket over the Japaneses Heads into the Pacific Ocean...
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RE: Do Air Koryo Fly Any International Routes?

Mon Feb 04, 2002 5:02 am

Delayed post, but just one point.
Air Koryo has never been and does not fly to Osaka.
Only they come to Nagoya or previously HANEDA
for chartered flight for carrying matsutake mushrooms
late in summer and fall. So the rocket shot does not affect.
The relationship between Japan and North Korea
is very instabilized, depending upon changeable
policy of the government at the time and incidents inbetween. Recently a North Korea's
strange armed ship appered in the public sea of exclusive economic zone next to western Japan and began to
shoot the two ships of Japanese Martime Safety Agency
after escape and got alert for stopping for inquiry.
Hostilities for minutes, then the North Korea ship exploded himself and sank. Members of sunken ship were all missed and also a few members of MSA got hurt on their arms. The MSA ships were heavily cartrige-ed.
This incident may influence schedules of the charters
fall this year and reduce possibility of mutual scheduled flight.