LGW
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2nd European Air Charter 747 Pic - Different Cls!

Mon Jan 28, 2002 6:27 am

Here is the 1st pic :-

http://justplanes.net/images/welcome645.jpg

and the second :-

http://justplanes.net/images/welcome651.jpg

I love both

LGW
 
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RE: 2nd European Air Charter 747 Pic - Different Cls!

Mon Jan 28, 2002 6:47 am

Brilliant aren't they!
I know that the B737s are in a mixture of red and blue colours, but I'm really hoping that EAL will paint each of their B747s with a different colour.

Any idea what they're planing to do?
 
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RE: 2nd European Air Charter 747 Pic - Different Cls!

Mon Jan 28, 2002 6:54 am

European's painting policy is simple.

Normal airline configured aircraft are painted red.
Executive/All First class aircraft are painted blue and black.

So most of the BAC1-11/737/747 fleet are red. With single examples of each in the blue scheme; The executive aircraft are mainly used on behalf of Mainardi.

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CROSSWIND
 
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RE: 2nd European Air Charter 747 Pic - Different Cls!

Mon Jan 28, 2002 7:05 am

wow !

Awesome !

The black works well in both schemes.
 
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RE: 2nd European Air Charter 747 Pic - Different Cls!

Mon Jan 28, 2002 10:47 am

That second one is fantastic!!
 
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RE: 2nd European Air Charter 747 Pic - Different Cls!

Mon Jan 28, 2002 7:31 pm

I like the second one!
Boeing747 万岁!
 
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RE: 2nd European Air Charter 747 Pic - Different Cls!

Mon Jan 28, 2002 9:02 pm

Man the red is just stunning!! I wonder who thought of this Livery..indeed very very nice!!

Cheers
Mike
 
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RE: 2nd European Air Charter 747 Pic - Different C

Mon Jan 28, 2002 9:43 pm

The 2nd 742 looks better than the first one. What´s the registration of the second one? G-BDXI or G-BDXJ I suppose?
 
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RE: 2nd European Air Charter 747 Pic - Different Cls!

Mon Jan 28, 2002 9:59 pm

I saw a 732 in their colours at Stansted yesterday. I was wondering what the airline was. Now I know. Anyone know what routes it flies from Stansted???
 
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RE: 2nd European Air Charter 747 Pic - Different Cls!

Mon Jan 28, 2002 10:07 pm

they are still a bad airline....
It is amazing what can be accomplised when nobody takes the credit
 
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RE: 2nd European Air Charter 747 Pic - Different Cls!

Tue Jan 29, 2002 10:07 am

I'm sorry but I don't think the colour scheme can be described as awesome, It looks like a rush paint job, nowhere near as nice as the B737-200s. It looks like a typical second hand jumbo, cheap, slap on a bit of paint job.

I think the UK version of Tower Air could possibly be arriving at an airport near you - probably late and possibly tech on a regular basis.

We'll see I guess.
 
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RE: 2nd European Air Charter 747 Pic - Different C

Tue Jan 29, 2002 10:15 pm

Anybody who can give me the registration of the aircraft?
 
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RE: 2nd European Air Charter 747 Pic - Different Cls!

Wed Jan 30, 2002 1:19 am

NG737PSR

"It looks like a typical second hand jumbo"

And how many 747's to XLA have?

Speaking of late and tech, that reminds me of the old SBE

LGW
 
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RE: 2nd European Air Charter 747 Pic - Different Cls!

Wed Jan 30, 2002 1:45 am

There's a big difference between operating long and short haul, and I think it's a shame some people have already slagged off the B742 ops even before they've carried their 1st passenger!
 
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RE: 2nd European Air Charter 747 Pic - Different Cls!

Wed Jan 30, 2002 2:50 am


I think they look great.

GoCanada- have you flown with them?

Are they still keeping the BA regos?

Hope to see them at LGW soon?
 
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RE: 2nd European Air Charter 747 Pic - Different Cls!

Wed Jan 30, 2002 8:31 am

Yes it is good to see them still flying, I hope it works, but experience has shown that with all good intentions, old equipment, and old large equipment on charters has been the undoing of many an operator. I still think the paintjob like on the B737s would have looked far better.
There is just too much black on one of them tail end.

Let's hope history doesn't repeat itself

Air Europe early 1990s with the leased Tower Air B747-100s

Tower Air B747 charters recently failed

Air Club International, Nationair - Canada
B747 charter operators failed

Excalibur changed direction in 1996 to do long-haul using second hand DC-10-30s,
went tech a few times, mass media attention, loss of public confidence, airline failed.

Caledonian, TriStars 25 yrs+ old also ex BA, multiple technical failures on intensive utilisation charters developed that airline a bad reputation.

As for Sabre, totally agree, 727s that were worked too hard, could no longer keep up the pace.

IMHO from what I have seen of Excel (just responding to your little dig - not that I've an axe to grind) they have made the right choice of equipment and their leased B767-200ERs are capable of MCO, if and when that company decides it would like to operate them on long haul routes. Full marks to Excel for meeting their promises and being sensible so far and from what I can see - and others - out performing more established charter carriers.

BTW I've flown on two of the B747-200s when in BA service and they were in poor condition then, unserviceable toilets, unserviceable IFE, condensation problems, broken seatbacks. All observed on a SEA-LHR flight in Economy. I only hope that European invest a sizeable amount in aircraft/cabin upkeep as otherwise it could possibly be their undoing. The charter flying public are more discering than ever.

Just remember like old lady's generally, they need care and attention throughout their journeys.

I wish the operation every sucess, it will give a lot of pilots and cabin crew desperately needed jobs.

But at the end of the day if one of them goes tech, then it's going to be difficult to mop up the mess. "I'll have 450 beds for one night please", "certainly that will be £12,000".