NZ767
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Air NZ To Taipei.

Mon Jan 28, 2002 8:49 am

Qantas had to set up a separate company, Australia Asia to serve Taipei so as not to offend the Chinese Government.
Japan Airlines had Japan Asia, BA had British Asia, and so on.
But Air New Zealand serves Taipei in its own right under its own name. They didn't have to set up a separate operation.
Anyone know why ANZ was treated differently compared to the others?

Cheers,
Mike (NZWN)  Smile
 
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RE: Air NZ To Taipei.

Mon Jan 28, 2002 9:55 am

Australia Asia has demised already few years ago.

However, low-cost Australian airlines will be flying to Taipei from Cairns, one of the route used to operated by Australia Asia.

NZ and Taiwan signed the air traffic agreement (not sure what's the official name) back in 1991 or 1992, and China seems like having no problems about this.

I guess China was having no problem about this because NZ is a neutral country politically?
 
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RE: Air NZ To Taipei.

Mon Jan 28, 2002 9:59 am

Yeah I know Aussie Asia has gone now Jim.
Used to be good seeing their 767s coming into Wellington before they changed to the 747SPs.
Thanks for the info about the agreement.
Thought it may have been something like that.

Mike (NZWN)
 
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RE: Air NZ To Taipei.

Mon Jan 28, 2002 11:23 am

The point is more that Air New Zealand doesnt fly to People's Republic of China. I believe the politics behind it is that the PRC refuses tobe served by the same airline that serves ROC: hence all the Asia divisions...

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RE: Air NZ To Taipei.

Mon Jan 28, 2002 12:47 pm

I too wondered about the same question - why "?? Asia" for some airlines, e.g. BAA (British Asia), Qantas Asia, and Swissair Asia?... Don't quite understand how that works...

VirginFlyer - your comment do seemed fair and valid, but then, what about heaps of other SE-Asian carriers like SQ, MH, TG etc that serve BOTH PRC and ROC???...

Anyone has any ideas??

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RE: Air NZ To Taipei.

Mon Jan 28, 2002 5:23 pm

BA is pulling out of TPE, so has SR. Looks like KL and AF are left
 
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RE: Air NZ To Taipei.

Mon Jan 28, 2002 8:49 pm

AirNZ loads at the moment to Taipei are real CRAP!! I will not be too surprised if they pull out!!

But then again, i think they will stay just to have their name there!!

Mike
 
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RE: Air NZ To Taipei.

Tue Jan 29, 2002 8:55 am

Mike I think NZ is more likely to codeshare with Eva than stay just to keep their name there.
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RE: Air NZ To Taipei.

Tue Jan 29, 2002 6:58 pm

Yes Aerorobnz, I never thought of that point!! Good one!!

Cheers
Mike
 
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RE: Air NZ To Taipei.

Wed Jan 30, 2002 12:40 am

Please refer to this topic discussed a few months ago "British Asia Airways - What Is It?!

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/605278/

quite a detailed discussion i'd say...

cheers!

Jimmy

 
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RE: Air NZ To Taipei.

Wed Jan 30, 2002 6:49 pm

This is probably the best time of year to fly to TPE as the chinese new year is coming up so at the moment I would say flights are quite full NZ and BR have put on extra flights to cope with demand, but for alot of the year its like a nothing market. I think NZ should drop their own flights and codeshare with BR and fly the 763 to ICN or mainland China where year round there is alot more demand.
 
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RE: Air NZ To Taipei.

Wed Jan 30, 2002 7:08 pm

Shanghai was on the cards for Air NZ a few years back wasn't it NBT?
Yeah, a slice of ICN would be good too instead of leaving it all for KE.
New destinations I would like to see, and I reckon they'd be viable are Auckland-Sao Paulo via Rio de Janeiro.
Would also be a Star Alliance tie-up with Varigs domestic and European services.

Mike (WLG)  Smile
 
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RE: Air NZ To Taipei.

Thu Jan 31, 2002 5:22 pm

Last I heard was that they were still eyeing the Chinese market.  Smile
Yes and KE do really well on AKL-ICN currently 10 744's weekly 2 go via NAN!
 
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RE: Air NZ To Taipei.

Fri Feb 01, 2002 5:50 am

I was talking to some of the KE flightcrew, and they are quite happy with the loads between AKL-ICN.

Sam
 
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RE: Air NZ To Taipei.

Fri Feb 01, 2002 9:05 am

If Air NZ starts flying to new destinations then new planes will be needed.

maybe the 777 will finally be seen in Air NZ colours or maybe more 763 and 744's for the fleet.
 
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RE: Air NZ To Taipei.

Sat Feb 02, 2002 11:30 am

Yes, the Triple-Seven would look good in ANZ colours eh Dave! Big grin

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