Matt_milligan
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Why Does ATC Refer Refer To "company" Traffic

Thu Jan 31, 2002 12:08 pm

Why do air traffic controllers refer to "company" traffic?

"traffic on the south parellel is a company 767"

"your number two a following company Dash 8"

Is the pilot supposed to use extra care following company traffic? A 767 is a 767 isn't it? What difference does it make if it is company 767?
 
TG992
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RE: Why Does ATC Refer Refer To "company" Traffic

Thu Jan 31, 2002 12:09 pm

Cuz it sounds silly saying 'United XXX, you're behind a United 747'

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Matt_milligan
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RE: Why Does ATC Refer Refer To "company" Traffic

Thu Jan 31, 2002 12:13 pm

ATC usually does not refer to the company if it is another airlines 747? At least not here in Toronto. You would never here United XXX you are behind an Air Canada 747. ATC would say "you are following a 747"
 
TurbineBeaver
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RE: Why Does ATC Refer Refer To "company" Traffic

Thu Jan 31, 2002 12:14 pm

Often, when looking for traffic, it helps to be able to see the particular color scheme. If they say "Company Traffic" you automatically know it is your company c/s!

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RE: Why Does ATC Refer Refer To "company" Traffic

Thu Jan 31, 2002 12:21 pm

Another context...

When the 727 and the 172 had the mid-air in San Diego back in the late 1970s, a PSA flight (a little later) was heard to ask ATC about the big fire on the ground, and what it was...

The reply was "company tri-jet", which is about the most sobering radio transcript excerpt I've ever read...
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bacardi182
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RE: Why Does ATC Refer Refer To "company" Traffic

Thu Jan 31, 2002 12:48 pm

Also, in general aviaiton. If a student is on a solo flight or something happens that an FBO wants their plane on the ground. The tower will come on and say company called they want you to full stop (if doing touch and goes).
 
NZ767
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RE: Why Does ATC Refer Refer To "company" Traffic

Thu Jan 31, 2002 4:14 pm

Matt,

Simple answer!
They say "Company" whenever the aircraft they're referring to belongs to the same airline as the one they're talking to.
Eg: If telling a United 747 pilot to report sighting a United 767 at two miles, they will say something like "United XXX, report sighting company 767, 2 miles".

As to your question, "Is the pilot supposed to use extra care following company traffic?", well, I'm sure his workmates would like him to! Big grin

Mike (NZWN)

 
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RE: Why Does ATC Refer Refer To "company" Traffic

Thu Jan 31, 2002 8:51 pm

It's used more frequently whilst issuing taxi instrctions...

"Go Flight 123 after the company 737 has passed you left to right taxi to holding point Y via taxi way X..."

"Go Flight 321 after the landing company 737 line up and wait runway 23..."

It makes sense really. Both of those two examples above would work equally as well with another carriers name being used, but its easier all round for pilots and ATC to say "company" when able to.

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