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Swiss Routes Announced

Sun Feb 03, 2002 7:15 am

SR Announced it's network of destinations for the 2002 summer season as follows :
Swiss domestic destinations :
European destinations :
Albania (1) Tirana
Austria (3) Graz, Salzburg, Vienna
Belgium (1) Brussels
Bosnia (1) Sarajevo
Bulgaria (1) Sofia
Croatia (1) Zagreb
Czech Rep. (1) Prague
Denmark (1) Copenhagen
Finland (1) Helsinki
France (8) Bordeaux, Marseille, Nice, Paris CDG, Toulouse, Paris Orly, St-Tropez, Ajaccio
Germany (15) Berlin Tegel, Berlin Tempelhof, Bremen, Dresden, Düsseldorf, Frankfurt,Friedrichshafen, ....................Hamburg, Hannover, Köln, Leipzig, München, Münster Osnabrück, Nürnberg, Stuttgart
Greece (2) Athens, Thessaloniki
Hungary (1) Budapest
Ireland (1) Dublin
Italy (6) Firenze, Milano Malpensa, Napoli, Roma Fiumicino, Venezia, Olbia
Luxemburg (1) Luxemburg
Libya (2) Benghazi, Tripoli
Macedonia (1) Skopje
Marocco (1) Casablanca
Netherlands (1) Amsterdam
Norway (1) Oslo
Poland (2) Krakow, Warsaw
Portugal (1) Lisboa, Porto
Romania (1) Bucharest
Russia (1) Moscow
Slovenia (1) Ljubljana
Spain (9) Alicante, Barcelona, Bilbao, Malaga, Madrid, Palma de Mallorca, Sevilla,Valencia, Ibiza
Sweden (2) Göteborg, Stockholm
Tunisia (1) Tunis
Turkey (1) Istanbul
UK (7) Birmingham, Guernsey, Jersey, London City Airport, London Heathrow, Manchester, Edinburgh
Ukraine (1) Kiew
Yugoslavia (1) Belgrade, Pristina
Intercontinental destinations : (including weekly flights and type of aircraft)
North Atlantic :
Canada : Montreal 7x A330
USA : Boston 7x A330
USA : Chicago 7x A330
USA : Los Angeles 7x MD11
USA : Miami 7x MD11
USA : Newark 7x A330
USA : New York JFK 7x A330 (from ZRH) & 7x A330 (from GVA)
USA : Washington 7x A330
South Atlantic :
Argentina : Buenos Aires (via Sao Paulo) 5x MD11
Brazil : Rio de Janeiro (via Sao Paulo) 2x MD11
Brazil : Sao Paulo 7x MD11
Far East :
China : Beijing 3x MD11
Hong Kong : Hong Kong 7x MD11
India : Bombay 7x A330
India : Delhi 7x A330
Japan : Tokyo 5x MD11
Philipines : Manila (via Hong Kong) 3x MD11
Singapore : Singapore (via Bangkok) 7x MD11
Thailand : Bangkok 7x MD11
Africa :

Cameroon : Douala (1x via Malabo) 2x MD11
Cameroon :Yaounde (via Malabo) 2x MD11
Equatorial Guinea : Malabo 3x MD11
Gabon : Libreville (via Douala) 1x MD11
Ghana : Accra (via Lagos) 4x MD11
Kenya : Nairobi 4x MD11
Nigeria : Lagos 4x MD11
South Africa : Johannesburg 7x MD11
Tanzania : Dar Es Salaam (via Nairobi) 4x MD11
Middle East :
Egypt : Cairo 6x A330
Iran : Tehran 3x MD11
Israel : Tel Aviv 14x A330
Pakistan : Karachi (via Dubai) 4x A330
Gulf Region :
Oman : Muscat (via Dubai) 3x A330
Saudi Arabia : Jeddah 2x A330
Saudi Arabia : Riyadh 3x A330
Un. Arab Emirates : Abu Dhabi (via Riyadh) 3x A330
Un. Arab Emirates : Dubai 7x A330

Following is a list of Swissair destinations that will not be operated by Swiss :
Intercontinental :
Ho Chi Minh City
San Francisco
Santiago de Chile
European :
St Petersburg

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RE: Swiss Routes Announced

Sun Feb 03, 2002 8:08 am

So, how many ARJ's are they going to keep, and are they just gonig to be used for LCY?
Next flight.... who knows.
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RE: Swiss Routes Announced

Sun Feb 03, 2002 8:15 am

Nice to see Karachi on the resume list.
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RE: Swiss Routes Announced

Sun Feb 03, 2002 8:21 am

Even though they've dropped a few destinations, they sill have a pretty impressive network.

I wish them all the best!
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RE: Swiss Routes Announced

Sun Feb 03, 2002 8:40 am

Here is the fleet plan according to ......

Summer 2002

13 MD11s
13 A330s
26 A32S family
7 MD83s (Charter flights)
15 ARJ-100s
4 ARJ-85s
22 EMB-145s
28 Saab 2000s

Planned Deliveries...
7 EMB-145s
1 EMB-170

14 EMB-170s

14 EMB-170s
6 EMB-190s

1 EMB-170
16 EMB-190s

8 EMB-190s
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RE: Swiss Routes Announced

Sun Feb 03, 2002 9:07 am

No San Francisco, Atlanta?  Sad

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RE: Swiss Routes Announced

Sun Feb 03, 2002 9:22 am

Well, what is about other cities were goes to SFO or ATL flight on the Swiss Airlines yet or maybe not. It will be depends see what is happened as for next. One more questions: What is about goes on as for old Sabena were been grounds with all of the aircraft and not goes back to air?? Any Clue??? Thanks!!


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RE: Swiss Routes Announced

Sun Feb 03, 2002 9:55 am

Anyone know what aircraft Swiss will operate to each European route? And at what frequency?
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RE: Swiss Routes Announced

Sun Feb 03, 2002 11:28 am

WOW, did you saw that!?!

They are going to fly three times a week to Malabo!!!!!! That's great news!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: Swiss Routes Announced

Sun Feb 03, 2002 12:49 pm

They dropped Atlanta because there were not enough passenger loads to accomadate the flight. ATL was simply not profitable as an origin or destination airport. Delta is able to keep the flight because ATL is their ultrasupermega hub, and they get enough pax traffic routed through ATL onto the ZRH flight, making it profitable.

I am actually surprised that JFK is only getting one daily flight to ZRH. I would have expected two.
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RE: Swiss Routes Announced

Sun Feb 03, 2002 1:55 pm

The new Summer 2002 schedule is essentially the same as the current SR/LX Winter 2001/2 schedule in terms of number of cities served and frequencies. ATL and SFO have been suspended since Oct'01 with the bankruptcy situation. The aircraft that will be pulled have basically been grounded already...

The only thing is that "SR" will no longer will be the code with the start of the summer schedule; all flights will be "LX" (the current Crossair code). Currently, only the intercontinental flights remain as "SR"-coded flights..quite sad.
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RE: Swiss Routes Announced

Sun Feb 03, 2002 4:56 pm

Great to hear!

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RE: Swiss Routes Announced

Sun Feb 03, 2002 5:15 pm

Addititional to the destinations mentioned above, Sion is another domestic destination of Swiss. At least their website says that they keep on flying into Sion.
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RE: Swiss Routes Announced

Sun Feb 03, 2002 5:17 pm

I am happy to see that Swiss keeps such a network.
About SCL, when I flew there a few years ago, SR didn't fly their MD11 there any more.
In Buenos Aires, I have been transfered in a Ladeco B727 specialy charterd by SR (Nice flight, nice service, as Ladeco was a great airline, but no SR flight to SCL)
For those of you having question about the future of SR and SN planes, you will see very soon in LAX or in Japan (and I hope very soon in CDG) the 2 new Air Tahiti Nui A340. They are 2 ex SN.
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RE: Swiss Routes Announced

Sun Feb 03, 2002 5:38 pm

The above flights are without codeshare, are they? Think they will come back to Kuala Lumpur but operated by MH and they also sell Colombo on UL. but I think the list above was only for regular flights operated by SR.
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RE: Swiss Routes Announced

Sun Feb 03, 2002 7:49 pm

WoW, that would make TLV the only route with 2 daily A330 from ZRH!!! That would make TLV the biggest long ranged route from ZRH, WoW.


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RE: Swiss Routes Announced

Sun Feb 03, 2002 8:03 pm

Some of those frequencies look very uneconomical...look for some downgrades soon IMO. JFK will possibly end up with twice daily service after the other services are decreased.

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RE: Swiss Routes Announced

Sun Feb 03, 2002 8:23 pm

wow, 15 destinations in Germany  Smile

Seems like we will see the ambulance planes here very often  Smile
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RE: Swiss Routes Announced

Sun Feb 03, 2002 10:22 pm

I think the schedule will change dramatically when Swiss Airlines when the found their new strategic partner alliance.
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RE: Swiss Routes Announced

Mon Feb 04, 2002 1:43 am

As for SFO, expect them to come back to the Bay Area. If they join Oneworld chances are good that they will continue their service. Not to SFO but to SJC. SJC is constantly becoming a more important gateway for AA. Swiss' US strategy is to only fly to partner hubs (such as AA: JFK, ORD, BOS, LAX...). Also, if they join, expect the EWR flight to switch to JFK and then once again we will have 4 AA/LX JFK-Switzerland flights. Now we're talking!

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RE: Swiss Routes Announced

Mon Feb 04, 2002 2:35 am

Mumbai is down to A330 from MD11, sad to see so many Asian routes dropped Sad

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