jetsetter
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Concorde - AF Or BA?

Sun Feb 03, 2002 11:28 am

Is anyone familiar with AF's Concorde service? I have heard a lot about BA's service - I know they have their own lounges with special meal service, and I'm vaguley familiar with some of the trinkets that are handed out during the flight. Is the experience on AF similar to that of BA? Anyone ever fly both? Do the same type of people fly both (businesspeople, models, celebrities, etc?)

Just curious - not planning on flying either of them anytime soon! Thanks for your replies.
 
ILS
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RE: Concorde - AF Or BA?

Sun Feb 03, 2002 11:30 am

I think that flying on a Concorde would be cool no matter what airline. I think that both airlines give you a press pack, fountain pen, certificate, and great service.
 
airplanetire
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RE: Concorde - AF Or BA?

Sun Feb 03, 2002 11:34 am

Just from looking at pictures, I'd fly the BA ones. The seats look more comfortable, but I could be wrong because, like most people, I've never flown the Concorde. I've never flown anything higher than economy. I'd fly either though. The Concorde is my number one airplane on my list of "to fly" airplanes. I think I'd faint if someone told me I could have a free flight on the Concorde.
 
G-BOAA
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RE: Concorde - AF Or BA?

Sun Feb 03, 2002 2:22 pm

I haven't flown AF concorde, but BA is a wonderful service. Unlike in other classes I have oft found a surly BA service; the concorde service is flawless.
The food is good, although there have been some changes. Previous to the crash a folder was given to all containing concorde info, pen and stationary. A gift is also handed out at the end of the flight.
On my last 2 flights, no folders or stationary were provided and one of the stewardesses said that in a couple of weeks, Ba planned to save money by stopping handing gifts out. Sad as they all contribute to the uniqueness of a flight on Concorde.
 
teva
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RE: Concorde - AF Or BA?

Sun Feb 03, 2002 5:09 pm

BA new seats look really great.
For the service, AF has special lounge, check in counter, limo service, and the Concorde has a dedicated parking spot to make the distance you walk as short as possible.

And for the food... Of course... It is Air France....
The menu are prepared by a dedicated Servair unit, preparing food only for Concorde and the business jets. And they are prepared in collaboration with Alain Ducasse, today's greatest chef in France. I heard the menu on the radio a few days ago, and it sound really great.
And of course, you have the wine selection!!!

If one day I win the first price in the lotery, guess what I want to do... CDG JFK with AF, for the food. Return via LHR to try BA's seats...
Maybe I should start playing....
Nana...
Ecoute les orgues, Elles jouent pour toi...C'est le requiem pour un con
 
GDB
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RE: Concorde - AF Or BA?

Mon Feb 04, 2002 1:08 am

BA are now into the 1st stage of a two-stage cabin upgrade, previous upgrdes were done in the mid-80's and again in 1993/4.
New bathrooms, cabin decor and lighting will comprise the 2nd stage, new seats and carpets being the 1st stage.
AF have pretty much the same cabin as delivered, even down to the original small LED 'Mach Meters' of the bulkheads.
BA fitted bigger LCD 'Marilake' displays in the mid 80's, which give the Mach speed, m.p.h. speed, altitude, miles to go and outside air temp. information.
But both airlines have the same 38 inch seat pitch, Due the recent modifications, AF have removed 8 seats because of weight, BA still has 100 seats due to the newer cabins being lighter, however AF indicated to Airways magazine that they will upgrade their cabin and restore 100 seats.
Both have upgraded the meal service on return to service, and at the end of the day, Concorde is about speed, the rest being window dressing.

 
donder10
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RE: Concorde - AF Or BA?

Mon Feb 04, 2002 2:57 am

Soes anybody know waht time AF1 leaves CDG and what time AF2 arrives in CDG?
Thanks,Alex
 
airfrancejfk
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RE: Concorde - AF Or BA?

Mon Feb 04, 2002 3:10 am

Seeing as I'm not familiar with the BA concorde, I can only tell you about the AF service. From JFK-CDG, check in for 8am flight begins at 6am. You have 4 dedicated check-in counters, so waiting time is never more than 2 minutes. Mercedez Benz limosine service is available for hotel-airport-hotel transfers. Once check-in is completed, passengers go to the AF lounge where breakfast is served. They take off their coats and place it on a trolley, which is wheeled onto the aircraft, so the passengers never have to carry their coats until they arrive in CDG. Boarding starts at 7:30am, and is usually completed in 10 minutes. After take off, the food service consists of a continuous brunch, comprised of 4 of the world's finest wines, and a menu of entrees, caviar, cheese and desserts prepared by some of the world's greatest chefs. All in all, not bad a bad deal.