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ATA/Condor Love Their 757-300s

Tue Feb 05, 2002 2:47 am

Why don't more 757-300s sell?

Got this on the Boeing page today:

Boeing 757-300 Reliability Delivers Value To Airlines And Passengers

SEATTLE, Feb. 4, 2002 - The Boeing 757-300 recorded a 99.7 percent reliability rate during 2001, which means flights departed as scheduled and airlines delivered passengers to their destinations on time.

After several years of proven, reliable service with European tour operators, the sleek, efficient 757-300 successfully debuted in North America with American Trans Air (ATA) in August 2001. Operating a fleet of five 757-300s, the Indianapolis-based airline had a fleet-wide reliability rate of 99.5 percent for the 90-day period ending Dec. 31, 2001.

"With its lower seat mile costs, the new 757-300s have added even greater value to our fleet," said Jim Hlavacek, ATA chief operating officer. "The increased fuel efficiency and superior maintenance reliability of the -300 has continued the tradition of outstanding performance of the 757 airplane."

The single-aisle jetliner entered into service in 1999 and quickly established a strong reputation for reliability. In its first year of revenue service with launch customer Condor Flugdienst, the airplane recorded a schedule-reliability rate of 99.64 - the highest rating ever by any commercial airplane model in its first year of operation. Operating with the largest fleet of 757-300s, Condor continues to experience this record-setting reliability rate.

"We couldn't be more pleased with the performance and reliability of our 757-300s. Our fleet of 13 757-300s allows us to provide a high-quality, high-service product to the leisure market, and it's an airplane our passengers enjoy flying in," said Rudolf Tewes, executive vice president Airline Operations of Thomas Cook AG.

Condor's sister carrier, JMC Airlines, which also is part of Thomas Cook AG, is experiencing the same success with the 757-300. Since premiering in the United Kingdom in April 2001 with Manchester-based charter operator JMC Airlines, the 757-300 has achieved a 99.5 percent reliability rate. It established a 99.8 percent reliability rate in its first seven months of revenue service with Arkia Israeli Airlines.

"The 757-300 is one of the world's most reliable, fuel efficient and environmentally friendly airplanes. Operators can rely on the 757-300 to generate profit and passengers can depend on it to consistently get them where they are going comfortably and on time," said Pat Shanahan, 757 program vice president and general manager.

Schedule reliability is an aviation standard defined by several factors. Achieving 100 percent schedule reliability means no flight can be canceled, turned back in the air, diverted to another airport or delayed longer than 15 minutes due to mechanical problems with an airplane.

The 757-300 carries 243 passengers in a typical dual-class configuration. The single-aisle airplane has the lowest seat-mile costs of any single-aisle and mid-sized jetliner, making it an extremely cost-effective airplane for airlines to operate. It burns less fuel than older mid-range airplanes, meets community noise restrictions well below current Stage 3 limits and complies with strict new international emissions standards. The 757-300 also has an all-new interior, which is based on the popular, award-winning 777 passenger cabin interior.

Entering the new year following strong market success in 2001, the 757-300 expands beyond the inclusive tour operator market and premiers in scheduled, dual-class service with Continental Airlines. Boeing will deliver to carriers such as Icelandair and Northwest Airlines later this year. With its reliability, efficiency and passenger-pleasing cabin, the 757 continues to create value for airline customers and passengers around the world.
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RE: ATA/Condor Love Their 757-300s

Tue Feb 05, 2002 2:55 am

Interesting, what's not to love, an fuel efficient, modern airliner with good capacity
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RE: ATA/Condor Love Their 757-300s

Tue Feb 05, 2002 3:04 am

Well, Continental and Northwest have ordered it. We'll probably see more orders for it later as the airliners look to replace their 767-200's on transcontinental routes
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RE: ATA/Condor Love Their 757-300s

Tue Feb 05, 2002 3:05 am

Just another thought: what is the competition to the 757-300? It doesn't have any, does it?
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RE: ATA/Condor Love Their 757-300s

Tue Feb 05, 2002 3:22 am

DIA, my understanding is that the 757 has no direct competition.  Smile
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RE: ATA/Condor Love Their 757-300s

Tue Feb 05, 2002 3:53 am

Depends on what exactly a direct competitor is.
Both the 767-200 and the A310 are direct competitors as far as passenger capacity is concerned: 290 for the 762, 289 for the 753 and 280 for the 310.
But these a/c have fundamentally different roles in different markets, especially concerning the ability to carry cargo.

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RE: ATA/Condor Love Their 757-300s

Tue Feb 05, 2002 3:57 am

I'm wondering how long it will be before someone starts a no frills operation between the US and Europe using the 753, all econ seating with decent pitch, sales only via internet, buy your own food on baord or prior etc a la Jetblue or Ryanair. It's not too farfetched to think of RT fares in the neighborhood of $250-300 even in high season. Could happen.
 
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RE: ATA/Condor Love Their 757-300s

Tue Feb 05, 2002 4:07 am

Doubt it. The North Atlantic is saturated. You can get tickets from 250 EUR rtn on full service airlines, I just can´t imagine even Ryanair going below that.

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RE: ATA/Condor Love Their 757-300s

Tue Feb 05, 2002 4:54 am

One point about transatlantic service. I agree that it probably is saturated with inexpensive fares from places like JFK, IAD, ORD, ATL, etc., but speaking as someone who lives in Denver, I look longingly at sub $300 fares that some of these eastern gateways enjoy. Surely, a low-fare carrier could make a buck giving the majors some competition from the seldom discounted markets that still exist in the U.S.

I'd visit London or Paris twice a year if it didn't cost me $600 -$800 a pop to do it. Sadly, the 753 cannot make such a journey nonstop.
 
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RE: ATA/Condor Love Their 757-300s

Tue Feb 05, 2002 5:31 am

Geotrash:

I must agree with you, although I have known quite a few people so far to get great deals on United, British and Lufthansa nonstops to Europe for under $300. Usually it was a netfare or through a travel agent. I know of one other person who frequents Northwest for his trips to Europe because he says he can also get fares under $300.

Jus thought I'd pass the info on to you. I have never had the luxury of taking some time to fly to Europe so far. . .but I too will need these sub-$300 fares from DEN as well.

Cheers. . .DIA
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RE: ATA/Condor Love Their 757-300s

Tue Feb 05, 2002 11:19 am

Boeing 757-300 Price (81-90) M USD .
Airbus 330-200 Price (89-95) M USD .

In this case airlines are going to prefer the wide body .
I think Boeing should reduce the price of the 757-300 to be more sold .

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RE: ATA/Condor Love Their 757-300s

Tue Feb 05, 2002 11:28 am

Just another thought: what is the competition to the 757-300? It doesn't have any, does it?


Mabye the A321 could be it's competitor. It's nice to see that the 757 line is geting the attention and recognition it deserves.
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RE: ATA/Condor Love Their 757-300s

Tue Feb 05, 2002 2:05 pm

Carriers rarley pay the list price.
 
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RE: ATA/Condor Love Their 757-300s

Tue Feb 05, 2002 2:05 pm

The A321 is, ironically, neither a competitor for the 753 or even the original 752. It's just a few seats short of the 752. I suppose Airbus thought that either Airlines didn't want that much, or that they could only stretch the -320 so much...

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