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Nordic Aviation Part 4

Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:31 am

Please continue your discussion and to post your updates here.

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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:40 am

More expected than surprising, but Norwegian is upgrading their summer routes OSL-BOS (2x weekly) and CPH-BOS (1x weekly) from 787-8 to 787-9 in 2017
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:10 am

Transavia announces two new Nordic Routes for S17:

- AMS-HEL-AMS
= 4x week Mon, Wed, Fri, Sun - starts April 2017 - various early morning departures AMS 06.30 - HEL 10.00 + HEL 10.45 - AMS 12.20

- EIN-ARN-EIN
= 4x week Mon, Wed, Fri, Sun - starts May 2017 - EIN 11.45 - ARN 13.45 + ARN 14.26 - EIN 16.25
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:11 am

LN-RKN is now in the air as SK955 on the debut of the new OSL-MIA route
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:24 am

factsonly wrote:
Transavia announces two new Nordic Routes for S17:

- AMS-HEL-AMS
= 4x week Mon, Wed, Fri, Sun - starts April 2017 - various early morning departures AMS 06.30 - HEL 10.00 + HEL 10.45 - AMS 12.20

- EIN-ARN-EIN
= 4x week Mon, Wed, Fri, Sun - starts May 2017 - EIN 11.45 - ARN 13.45 + ARN 14.26 - EIN 16.25


I think there was MUC-HEL as well.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Wed Sep 28, 2016 12:33 pm

Transavia is also launching MUC-ARN (3 weekly) from 26 March 2017 according to Swedavia


Link in Swedish:
http://www.swedavia.se/arlanda/om-stock ... a-airport/
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:01 am

Seems like Delta is planning to slightly increase their capacity on JFK-CPH next summer by using 767-400 instead of 767-300
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Thu Sep 29, 2016 11:32 am

Wizz is starting a 2x weekly service WAW-BLL from March 27 2017
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:40 pm

Norwegian will start 1x weekly flights from CPH-VAR in summer 2017:

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... ce-in-s17/
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Fri Sep 30, 2016 7:00 pm

First SAS A320neo has got its engines installed

https://www.flickr.com/photos/xfwspotter/29732147430/
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Fri Sep 30, 2016 8:12 pm

Yesterday Finnair received the 7th A350 and today OH-LGW started its commercial career as flight AY089 to BKK. According to the current delivery schedule AY will receive four more A350s next year, of the ordered 19 aircraft.

http://www.finnairgroup.com/mediaen/med ... 18806.html
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Sat Oct 01, 2016 6:23 am

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First SAS A320neo has got its engines installed

https://www.flickr.com/photos/xfwspotter/29732147430/


That is one very nice looking airplane. Look forward to try it out.
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Sat Oct 01, 2016 6:24 am

Someone83 wrote:
LN-RKN is now in the air as SK955 on the debut of the new OSL-MIA route


I thought that MIA would get the newest A330-300. Will this route see a mix of old and new A330? Will out the new route soon.
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Sun Oct 02, 2016 5:58 pm

Oykie wrote:
Someone83 wrote:
LN-RKN is now in the air as SK955 on the debut of the new OSL-MIA route


I thought that MIA would get the newest A330-300. Will this route see a mix of old and new A330? Will out the new route soon.


No, all the new 242t A330s are based at ARN, as they are the most suitable aircraft for the LAX and HKG routes. And as these two routes are linked with the ORD and EWR routes from ARN, all the four new A330s then is based at ARN
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Mon Oct 03, 2016 6:43 am

Brussels Airlines will change from Avro-100 to Airbus A319 on their 2x daily OSL-BRU service from October 30
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:32 am

HELyes wrote:
Yesterday Finnair received the 7th A350 and today OH-LGW started its commercial career as flight AY089 to BKK. According to the current delivery schedule AY will receive four more A350s next year, of the ordered 19 aircraft.

http://www.finnairgroup.com/mediaen/med ... 18806.html


LGW?

So they got 7 new widebodies and sent 3 very old 343's to be trashed. That adds 4 net planes and 4 to be expected soon.

I have not heard 8 new long haul destinations to be announced. Neither have I heard that they would have retired other widebodies.

Are we to expect retirements or expansion? I am afraid the former. End of lease soon?
Their current short-haul network and fleet would not sustain to feed 20 or more long haul flights. HEL is not that big O/D destination, isn't it?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Mon Oct 03, 2016 10:09 am

Oops, OH-LWG naturally..

Actually five of their A343's are gone already, the last two aircraft are leaving sooner or later. They also have eight A330's, AY said they can be "flexible" with the A330 fleet. These aicraft are getting WiFi installed by next spring.

YIMBY wrote:
HEL is not that big O/D destination, isn't it?


Yes O/D doesn't play a big role in LH traffic, Thailand (BKK/HKT/KBV) being an exception and JFK/MIA probably.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Mon Oct 03, 2016 11:46 am

Icelandair has announced a 13% increase in available seat kilometers in the network in 2017. There will be two new destinations that will be announced soon. Two more 767s will be brought on the fleet. In total there will be 30 aircraft on the fleet next year, 4 767 and 26 757.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Mon Oct 03, 2016 1:45 pm

Norwegian will operate it's 787-8 and 787-9 within Europe in 2017 on it's OSL-BCN route and OSL-NCE route:

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... le-in-s17/


Could we see them announcing a Longhaul route from NCE?
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Mon Oct 03, 2016 6:57 pm

Not sure if this has been posted here before but Ukraine International is increasing KBP-ARN from 1 to 2 daily flights effective W16/17.

KBP-HEL getting increased to 9-12 weekly from 04NOV 2016.

Source:
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... ht=ukraine

This post is from July but I'm not sure if I've seen anyone post this here.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:14 pm

A lot of reductions with Turkish Airlines, probably not unexpected with everything that has happened in Turkey. A huge part of their network got frequency and capacity cuts.

Istanbul IST - Oslo / Reduced from 18 to 14 weekly until S17 (already mentioned and already been reduced)

Istanbul IST - Copenhagen / Reduced from 21 to 14 weekly W16/17

Istanbul IST - Stockholm ARN / Reduced from 21 to 17 weekly W16/17 (a few frequencies seem to be gone on random dates before W16/17)

IST-GOT has been reduced from 14 to 10 weekly as of now but seems to revert back to 14 weekly from 01 November 2016.

SAW-CPH and SAW-ARN are gone for now but are planned to come back in S17 and late-April 2017 respectively.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:19 am

BT will resume RIX-TMP next year, 6x weekly. I don't know if it's official but seems that FR will resume ALC and AGP-TMP, plus add a completely new route CGN-TMP
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Wed Oct 05, 2016 2:48 pm

Three new Icelandair routes announced today

KEF-PHL 4x weekly (summer seasonal)
KEF-TPA 2x weekly
KEF-AEY 3-6x weekly depending on season. Feeder flights to KEF only, no local traffic
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Wed Oct 05, 2016 2:52 pm

September numbers for KEF.

700,292 that is 43.7% increase over September 2015.

Year today including September: 5,196,088, that is 36 % increase over 2015 January to September and more than the whole year 2015.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Wed Oct 05, 2016 3:03 pm

Someone83 wrote:
Three new Icelandair routes announced today

KEF-PHL 4x weekly (summer seasonal)
KEF-TPA 2x weekly
KEF-AEY 3-6x weekly depending on season. Feeder flights to KEF only, no local traffic


Why no local traffic on the KEF-AEY flight? I'm suprised that there will already be co many connecting passangers for this flight to make it possible.
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Wed Oct 05, 2016 3:06 pm

lesfalls wrote:
Why no local traffic on the KEF-AEY flight? I'm suprised that there will already be co many connecting passangers for this flight to make it possible.


Local trafific is anyway done by their RKV-AEY flight
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Wed Oct 05, 2016 3:21 pm

Someone83 wrote:
lesfalls wrote:
Why no local traffic on the KEF-AEY flight? I'm suprised that there will already be co many connecting passangers for this flight to make it possible.


Local trafific is anyway done by their RKV-AEY flight


RKV is downtown in the middle of Reykjavík.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Wed Oct 05, 2016 3:34 pm

Someone83 wrote:
lesfalls wrote:
Why no local traffic on the KEF-AEY flight? I'm suprised that there will already be co many connecting passangers for this flight to make it possible.


Local trafific is anyway done by their RKV-AEY flight

Still they could make some extra profit on it by making i bookable.
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Wed Oct 05, 2016 3:44 pm

lesfalls wrote:
Someone83 wrote:
Three new Icelandair routes announced today

KEF-PHL 4x weekly (summer seasonal)
KEF-TPA 2x weekly
KEF-AEY 3-6x weekly depending on season. Feeder flights to KEF only, no local traffic


Why no local traffic on the KEF-AEY flight? I'm suprised that there will already be co many connecting passangers for this flight to make it possible.


There probably is very little local traffic because RKV-AEY is much more convenient for most people. The KEF terminal is also exclusively international and I don't think it would be possible to do domestic flights there without some modifications.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Thu Oct 06, 2016 6:28 am

Norwegian traffic numbers for September

Passengers: 2 778 806 +14%
RPK: +21%
ASK: +19%
Load: 89,4% +1,2pp
RASK: 0,37 -7%
Yield: 0,41 -8%


http://media.norwegian.com/#/documents/ ... 2016-60342

On longhaul they report a load factor of 96% for the month
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:31 pm

Is there any further info on SAS A320NEO routes? I'm travelling to Norway in April next year and want to try and fly aboard one (as well as a 737-600 of course). Hopefully SAS will have a decent fleet of them by then which will make it easier to get a flight on one.
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:10 pm

zkojq wrote:
Is there any further info on SAS A320NEO routes? I'm travelling to Norway in April next year and want to try and fly aboard one (as well as a 737-600 of course). Hopefully SAS will have a decent fleet of them by then which will make it easier to get a flight on one.


If the plans don't change until then, ARN-OSL will be your best chance of flying A320neo as OSL will remain a 737-base.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Fri Oct 07, 2016 3:08 pm

Bostrom wrote:
zkojq wrote:
Is there any further info on SAS A320NEO routes? I'm travelling to Norway in April next year and want to try and fly aboard one (as well as a 737-600 of course). Hopefully SAS will have a decent fleet of them by then which will make it easier to get a flight on one.


If the plans don't change until then, ARN-OSL will be your best chance of flying A320neo as OSL will remain a 737-base.


Why is it that OSL has become a B737 base. Is there a special reason why the A320 is not used more there ?
 
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Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:10 pm

Qatar Cargo is increasing OSL to 6x weekly. 2x Monday and Tuesday, 1x on Thursday and Saturday. One of the Tuesday flights is with 777F, the rest with A330-200F
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Fri Oct 07, 2016 8:09 pm

Mortyman wrote:
Why is it that OSL has become a B737 base. Is there a special reason why the A320 is not used more there ?


I have no idea why SAS has chosen to turn ARN into an A320 base instead of OSL, but it's probably easier to have either A320-series or 737 at the bases instead of mixing them. And maybe the 737-700s are more useful on the smaller domestic routes in Norway?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Fri Oct 07, 2016 8:39 pm

Bostrom wrote:
Mortyman wrote:
Why is it that OSL has become a B737 base. Is there a special reason why the A320 is not used more there ?


I have no idea why SAS has chosen to turn ARN into an A320 base instead of OSL, but it's probably easier to have either A320-series or 737 at the bases instead of mixing them. And maybe the 737-700s are more useful on the smaller domestic routes in Norway?


30 A320neos are not enough to replace all the 737s at OSL. Not even at ARN, but they will be closer
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Fri Oct 07, 2016 10:04 pm

Bostrom wrote:
Mortyman wrote:
Why is it that OSL has become a B737 base. Is there a special reason why the A320 is not used more there ?


I have no idea why SAS has chosen to turn ARN into an A320 base instead of OSL, but it's probably easier to have either A320-series or 737 at the bases instead of mixing them. And maybe the 737-700s are more useful on the smaller domestic routes in Norway?



Yes, but I have always gotten the impression that SAS has positioned their B737's in Norway for a special reason. That it has something to do with the routes they fly ?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:09 pm

Icelandair traffic for September:

388,414 23% increase on September 2015. 2.909,513 Januar til September 2016, 19% increase over 2016.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Sun Oct 09, 2016 5:16 am

Apparently several of the routes from mOSL being operated by Norwegian Boeing 787-8 series will be replaced by the 9 series. The question then is, where will they use their 787-8 ? Have they plans to take the 8 series out of the fleet at this point ?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Sun Oct 09, 2016 5:59 am

Mortyman wrote:
Apparently several of the routes from mOSL being operated by Norwegian Boeing 787-8 series will be replaced by the 9 series. The question then is, where will they use their 787-8 ? Have they plans to take the 8 series out of the fleet at this point ?


I have no information about this, but could it just be because the routes are mature and it is a natural increase in capacity? The -8 can open routes elsewhere.
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:31 am

SAS September numbers

Passengers: 2.830 +3,8%
ASK: +7,0%
RPK: +7,6%
Load: 77,6% +0,5pp
Yield: -8%

http://mb.cision.com/Main/290/2095114/571808.pdf
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:20 am

More updates on Icelandair S17 767 usage

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... f-10oct16/

Seems like OSL, ARN and CPH all will get the 767s next year

CPH:
Reykjavik Keflavik – Copenhagen FI204/205
26MAR17 – 20APR17 1 daily
22APR17 – 03MAY17 6 weekly (Day x4)
10OCT17 – 28OCT17 1 daily


ARN:
Reykjavik – Stockholm Arlanda FI306/307 Average 3-4 weekly
26MAR17 – 26APR17 Day x246
27APR17 – 04MAY17 Day x126
07MAY17 – 31MAY17 Day 137
01JUN17 – 28SEP17 Day 347
11OCT17 – 27OCT17 Day x246


OSL:
Reykjavik Keflavik – Oslo FI318/319 Average 3-5 weekly
02MAY17 – 09MAY17 3 weekly (Day 246)
13MAY17 – 20MAY17 2 weekly (Day 46)
23MAY17 – 30MAY17 5 weekly (Day x137)
31MAY17 – 06JUN17 5 weekly (Day x14)
09JUN17 – 30SEP17 4 weekly (Day x134)
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Mon Oct 10, 2016 12:11 pm

Finnair is increasing NRT and HKG next summer, from early June and to end October

HEL-NRT is increasing by 4x weekly from daily to 11x weekly, so the new schedule will be 7x weekly A333 and 4x weekly A359. In addition JV partner JAL with 7x weekly A788

In reality, it is a capacity increase and not a frequency, as all the NRT leaves HEL on the same time
AY71 16:45 A350-900
AY73 17:15 A330-300
JL414 17:25 B787-8

HKG will go from daily to 10x weekly, all A359, and this is a "real" frequency increase as they 3x a week will operate both an afternoon and late evening departure from HEL
AY61 16:45 A350-900
AY69 23:50 A350-900


http://www.finnairgroup.com/mediaen/mediaen_7.html?Id=xml_2327191.html
 
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Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:58 am

September numbers:

ARN: 2.261.354 +5%


OSL: 2.393.933 +3,9%
International: 1.329.019 +2,1%
Domestic: 1.063.684 +6,2%

Other Norwegian airports
BGO: 552.660 +0,2% (Domestic +2,1% - International -1,8%)
TRD: 408.283 +2,6% (Domestic +4,3% - Internationa -3,0%)
SVG: 388.773 -5,3% (Domestic +3,5% - Internationa -15,2%)
TOS: 168.641 +4,8%
BOO: 154.508 +7,4%
AES: 99.296 +3,0%
KRS: 98.308 -3,0%
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Tue Oct 11, 2016 8:51 am

New SAS routes S17 announced

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... es-in-s17/
Year-round service
eff 26MAR17 Aalborg – Oslo 5 weekly (Day x16) ATR72/CRJ900
eff 26MAR17 Copenhagen – Faroe Islands/Vagar 1 daily A320 (A319 on Day 7)
eff 26MAR17 Copenhagen – Riga 12 weekly (Day x6) CRJ900
eff 26MAR17 Stockholm Arlanda – Krakow 2 weekly (Day 47) 737-600, no operation late-June to mid-August 2017
eff 26MAR17 Stockholm Arlanda – Munich 6 weekly (Day x5) 737-600, no operation late-June to mid-August 2017
eff 29MAR17 Bergen – Gdansk 3 weekly (Day 125) 737 Series

Seasonal routes
Aarhus – Malaga 02JUL17 – 06AUG17 1 weekly (Day 7) A320neo
Copenhagen – Malta 25JUN17 – 13AUG17 3 weekly (Day 257) A320
Copenhagen – Olbia 24JUN17 – 05AUG17 2 weekly (Day 36) CRJ900/A320
Kristiansand – Malaga 05JUL17 – 09AUG17 1 weekly (Day 3)737-800
Oslo – Pristina 04AUG17 – 02SEP17 Total of 10 round-trips with 737-800
Stavanger – Nice 24JUN17 – 05AUG17 1 weekly (Day 6) CRJ900
Stockholm Arlanda – Lisbon 25JUN17 – 06AUG17 2 weekly (Day 47) 737-700/-800
Stockholm Arlanda – Pristina 01AUG17 – 26AUG17 Total of 8 round-trips with A320neo
Stockholm Arlanda – Shannon 01AUG17 – 07OCT17 2 weekly (Day 26) CRJ900/737-700
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Tue Oct 11, 2016 9:28 am

Interesting to see SAS start a daily CPH to Faroes route. A pretty agressive entry into that market, more than doubling the current seats available with Atlantic Airways.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Tue Oct 11, 2016 9:49 am

SAS A320NEO had its first flight yesterday at Hamburg Finkenwerder Airport. The registration of this aircraft will be LN-RGL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0IzsfNFufc
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:49 am

hvusslax wrote:
Interesting to see SAS start a daily CPH to Faroes route. A pretty agressive entry into that market, more than doubling the current seats available with Atlantic Airways.


Atlantic Airways flies between 2x and 4x daily, dependent on the season and day of week, so a single daily SAS flight isn't a doubling of the capacity (although a significant increase)
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Tue Oct 11, 2016 11:26 am

Someone83 wrote:
hvusslax wrote:
Interesting to see SAS start a daily CPH to Faroes route. A pretty agressive entry into that market, more than doubling the current seats available with Atlantic Airways.


Atlantic Airways flies between 2x and 4x daily, dependent on the season and day of week, so a single daily SAS flight isn't a doubling of the capacity (although a significant increase)


You are right of course. I only glanced quickly at today's schedule and misread it. But yeah, it's a significant addition and SAS must have some confidence in the route to go from zero to a year-round daily.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Tue Oct 11, 2016 4:19 pm

Someone83 wrote:
all the NRT leaves HEL on the same time
AY71 16:45 A350-900
AY73 17:15 A330-300
JL414 17:25 B787-8


So there will be three flights departing to NRT within one hour on four days a week... But AY's choices here must be limited. HEL-Japan looks busy next summer, :

HEL-NRT 18x a week
HEL-KIX 7x
HEL-NGO 7x
HEL-FUK 3x


AY and QR start code share partnership:

As of October 11, Finnair's AY code will be added to Qatar Airways' flights between Helsinki and Doha, as well as to flights between Doha and Muscat, Bahrain, the Seychelles and the Maldives. At the same time, Qatar's QR code will be added to Finnair flights between Helsinki and Stockholm Bromma, Billund, Gothenburg, Riga, Tallinn and Tartu.

http://www.finnairgroup.com/mediaen/med ... 28339.html
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