triley1057
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Foreign Airlines Who Have A Hub In The U.S.

Thu Feb 07, 2002 2:44 pm

I know that Iberia has a hub in Miami for Central American routes and operates quite a few smaller jets from this airport. Are there any other airlines like this operating in the U.S.? As much as I know, there isn't. Do any of you guys think that there will ever be another foreign airline in the U.S. to do this from another airport? Lets just say for example Alitalia at IAH to certain destinations in Central America or Air France at Atlanta to certain destinations in the Carribean? I know Air France has flights from LAX to destinations in the South Pacific but you can't consider it a hub considering the flights originate in Paris.
 
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RE: Foreign Airlines Who Have A Hub In The U.S.

Thu Feb 07, 2002 2:50 pm

AF also flies from MIA to the caribbean and south america.
Specifically from MIA to PAP / PTP / FDF / CAY; sometimes all in one flight.
 
ryu2
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RE: Foreign Airlines Who Have A Hub In The U.S.

Thu Feb 07, 2002 2:50 pm

LAX is sort of a hub for NZ -- they serve not only the obvious AKL, but also SYD, LHR, HNL, PPT, RAR as well. It's not unusual to see 3-4 NZ planes at T2 simultaneously.,
 
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RE: Foreign Airlines Who Have A Hub In The U.S.

Thu Feb 07, 2002 4:12 pm

Until bands are lifted I doubt any foreign airline would really consider a hub or focous city in the US. Right now International carriers cant carry US passengers from say MCO-BWI unless their final destination is LGW for instance. In future times, it might be possible for a British Airways flight from LGW to JFK connect in JFK and say go to CMH with people in JFK able to fly to CMH without having a international ticket.



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triley1057
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RE: Foreign Airlines Who Have A Hub In The U.S.

Thu Feb 07, 2002 6:06 pm

I guess focus city was the word that I was looking for. Now that you guys are mentioning these flights from MIA and JFK, I am remembering. I guess what I mean is if any other airlines actually base their jets at a U.S. airport?
 
El Al 001
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RE: Foreign Airlines Who Have A Hub In The U.S.

Thu Feb 07, 2002 6:25 pm

I would say that JFK is a mini hub for El Al;
LY flies from JFK to TLV, MIA, ORD, LAX & YYZ (now not anymore... ), MCO at summer, the airline also used to fly to STN, LHR, BWI, SFO, ATL and BOS from JFK few years ago.

Also for cargo services, LY flies from JFK to TLV, AMS, LHR, ORD, MIA, LAX, and to other destinations once in a while according to demand.

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RE: Foreign Airlines Who Have A Hub In The U.S.

Thu Feb 07, 2002 6:43 pm

probably JAL too.
 
MAH4546
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RE: Foreign Airlines Who Have A Hub In The U.S.

Thu Feb 07, 2002 9:20 pm

Iberia is the only foreign carrier hub in the US. Mexicana is starting a new hub in the US, also at MIA, with new MIA-SDQ service and MIA-BOG/CCS/SAL on the way this year. LanChile also serves 8 destinations in seven countries from MIA, but it's not a hub, because those flights get no feed.
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RE: Foreign Airlines Who Have A Hub In The U.S.

Thu Feb 07, 2002 9:29 pm

Korean Air, JAL, NCA all use Anchorage as a hub and a trans shipment point.
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HlywdCatft
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RE: Foreign Airlines Who Have A Hub In The U.S.

Thu Feb 07, 2002 11:24 pm

What about Air New Zealand at LAX?
 
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RE: Foreign Airlines Who Have A Hub In The U.S.

Thu Feb 07, 2002 11:24 pm

On ther other hand NW has hubs in Japan and the Netherlands.
 
kl713
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RE: Foreign Airlines Who Have A Hub In The U.S.

Fri Feb 08, 2002 2:36 am

Martinair is using Miami as a little hub for flights to/from San Jose and Aruba
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Boeingfan
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RE: Foreign Airlines Who Have A Hub In The U.S.

Fri Feb 08, 2002 3:47 am

The above "hub responses" (excepting AF and IB at MIA where they do operate their own equipment) are all codeshare flights with their alliance partners.

The AZ IAH "hub" codeshare with CO is ending as AZ is now apart of the "SkyTeam" Alliance "hubing" (via DL) at CVG, ATL, JFK, SLC. Like the QF hub at LAX, it is AA operated aircraft through Oneworld.

Just because a flight no. has an airlines two letter marketing code, does not mean that the airline operates the flight.
 
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RE: Foreign Airlines Who Have A Hub In The U.S.

Fri Feb 08, 2002 3:58 am

Boeingfan,

Are you sure about that? I thought that the NZ flights mentioned above that operate out of LAX are operated by NZ aircraft. They have many other destinations ex LAX that are operated by Star Alliance partners, although these are not shown above.
 
Trvlr
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RE: Foreign Airlines Who Have A Hub In The U.S.

Fri Feb 08, 2002 4:01 am

Don't forget Anchorage. It's a hub for many Asian cargo airlines.

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RE: Foreign Airlines Who Have A Hub In The U.S.

Fri Feb 08, 2002 4:32 am

How about El Al. Alot of their flights to LAX, YYZ, etc pass through JFK. At any given time, there is at least one EL AL jumbo on the ground at JFK. They also used JFK as a hub for flights to Baltimore, operated by North American Airlines. The El AL jumbos would come in from Tel Aviv, and would feed the North American 737/757 flights to Baltimore and various other destinations. I'm not sure if this is still the case.
 
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RE: Foreign Airlines Who Have A Hub In The U.S.

Fri Feb 08, 2002 11:36 am

This is going back years to pre-hub days (late 60's/early 70's), but BOAC had a significant presence at JFK with flights to Europe, Australia, and the Caribbean with a mix of 707's and VC10's.
 
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RE: Foreign Airlines Who Have A Hub In The U.S.

Fri Feb 08, 2002 11:49 am

Mah4546, doesn't LanChile have a hub in MIA (if not for psgrs maybe for cargo)?
 
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RE: Foreign Airlines Who Have A Hub In The U.S.

Fri Feb 08, 2002 11:57 am

DL Widget Head, it depends on what you see as a hub. They do serve 8 cities - SCL, CCS, BOG, PUJ, CUN, LIM, UIO, and GYE - but they don't get feed, it's all O&D.
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