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Boeing 767-300 Emegency Exits Question...

Fri Feb 08, 2002 6:04 pm

Hi there !!

Can someone tell me why we can find 2 separate types of Boeing 767-300 as far as the emergency exits are concerned ???

- You have the type with 2 overwing exits above each wing.

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- You have the type with 4 identical exits on each side of the plane.

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I must say I am very confused about it !! Is there a difference in the year of production ??

Thanks for your help !!!

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RE: Boeing 767-300 Emegency Exits Question...

Fri Feb 08, 2002 6:36 pm

As far as I know - it's all down to customer preference and the density of seating. For instance, UK charter carriers have the four door lay-out, 'cause that way they can cram in more seats.

Hope this helps.
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RE: Boeing 767-300 Emegency Exits Question...

Fri Feb 08, 2002 6:54 pm

Hi there,

yes it depends on the costumer which layout he wants. AFAIK there are 3 different layouts:

2 passenger doors and 2 overwing exits
3 passenger doors and 1 overwing exit
4 passenger doors and no overwing exit


Hope that helps.

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RE: Boeing 767-300 Emegency Exits Question...

Fri Feb 08, 2002 7:20 pm

There is also the "B" type escape doors. They are located just aft of the wing.


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RE: Boeing 767-300 Emegency Exits Question...

Fri Feb 08, 2002 10:16 pm

Rmm, that Qantas version you posted, isn't it just the same exit layout as the BA aircraft posted by Flying Belgian?? I can't find any difference.
 
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RE: Boeing 767-300 Emegency Exits Question...

Fri Feb 08, 2002 10:30 pm

The 767-300 with 4 doors on each side (no overwings) actually had 3 passenger/service doors on each side and one "jet escape" on each side (aft of the wing). That door can only be opened in case of emergency. It is larger than an overwing exit but small that the other passenger doors. Some 757s have the exact same doors and layout.

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RE: Boeing 767-300 Emegency Exits Question...

Fri Feb 08, 2002 10:30 pm

Yep, the QF version is the same as the BA. It's just that the BA shot doesn't really show the door all that well. You can just see it thru the I/B flap.
The set up is known as the "B" type escape door.

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RE: Boeing 767-300 Emegency Exits Question...

Sat Feb 09, 2002 2:55 am

The QF aircraft that Rmm posted is actually ex-BA (check out the RR engines), so the doors will be identical. QF operates a number of 'two door' 767-300s as well, which were built specifically for them.
 
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RE: Boeing 767-300 Emegency Exits Question...

Sat Feb 09, 2002 3:51 am


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Aeroflot has "B" type doors on their 767 as well. If you see the picture closely, the one not opened is the "B" type door.

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RE: Boeing 767-300 Emegency Exits Question...

Sat Feb 09, 2002 4:10 am

Yes, that is true.
It all depends which configuration the customer specifies when ordering a 767-300 from Boeing. Most major airlines choose the two-door overwing exit configuration. All of American's 767-300's have that configuration, like the picture Olivier (Flying Belgian) shows on his post. I think that Air France has opted for the other configuration. Yes, it depends on how many passengers versus how many flight attendants the airline wants. There is a galley everywhere there is an emergency door, where there are two doors over the wing, there is only one galley. So the choice must be either more seats and one less galley, or fewer seats and one more galley.
I don't know if that answers your question, Olivier.

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RE: Boeing 767-300 Emegency Exits Question...

Sat Feb 09, 2002 5:47 am

The Qantias 767 pictured is actually an ex-BA -336, leased to complement the Aussie carrier's 338s (which have 2 main exits and 2 overwing exits on each side).
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RE: Boeing 767-300 Emegency Exits Question...

Sat Feb 09, 2002 7:43 am

The correct terminology for Door Configuration is stipulated in FAR 25.807 amdt 25-46

Type A - rated for 110 pax - 42" x 72"
Type B - 75 pax
Tpye C - 55 pax
Type I - 45 pax - min opening 24" wide x 48" high
Type II - 40 pax - min opening 20" x 44"
Type III - 35 pax - min opening 20" x 36"
Type IV - 9 pax - min opening 19" x 26"
Ventral - same rate of egess as Type I
Tail Cone - - min opening 20" x 60"

* Pax rating is per pair of the type

for the 767
Config 1 is AAIA
Config 2 is AA3A
Config 3 is A33A

Just because you have 8 Type A exits doesn't necessarily mean you are allowed to have 440 pax on the aircraft.....

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RE: Boeing 767-300 Emegency Exits Question...

Sat Feb 09, 2002 11:11 am

I asked this same question 3 0r 4 months ago. I also asked why the 757 would'nt be configured the same as a 767. meaning the option for more or less loading doors. The 757 always has more loading doors than most 767-300's.The 757 only has one option, at least 3 loading doors on one side. Why? Thanks, Patches.
 
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RE: Boeing 767-300 Emegency Exits Question...

Sun Feb 10, 2002 3:17 am

To Patches,

The 757 often has more exits than the 767-300 because it is a single-aisle a/c and it thus takes longer for passengers to get to the exits. The 767 is a double-aisle aircraft, so passengers can get to the exits faster.
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