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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:39 pm

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I know that the 3 Class sUA 767s are going in First for Polaris refits, but then the rest of the 2 Class 767s after...correct?

No. Already converted two class 763s are staying as is. Those cabins are maybe only two or three years old, and at most they'll only be around until the middle of the next decade. When Polaris seats likely cost in the range of $200,000 or more per seat, there's no way to justify that cost.


OMG! I didn’t realize that. So the same goes for the 772?

I’m surprised only because I’m not sure those 2 class 767s seats will last...they already show signs of wear and tear!
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:40 pm

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OMG! I didn’t realize that. So the same goes for the 772?

No.
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United's Polaris site has been updated with a few not-too-notable developments:

There's a progress tracker that says 14 763s will get refit (so only the current 3-cabin 763s) and 55 772s will get refit (so all sUA and sCO 777-200ERs): http://view.ceros.com/united/polaris-tr ... ktop-4/p/3

763s are to be completed by the end of 2018; 772s will start being refit in "early 2018" with no published end date.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:49 pm

Thanks for that link! Was I the only one who was under the impression that one day ALL 767s would have new Polaris seats (just the 14 3 Class ones first)?
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:58 pm

I was under the same impression. Was a little surprised the current two-cabin aircraft will solider on.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:43 am

atcsundevil wrote:
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I know that the 3 Class sUA 767s are going in First for Polaris refits, but then the rest of the 2 Class 767s after...correct?

No. Already converted two class 763s are staying as is. Those cabins are maybe only two or three years old, and at most they'll only be around until the middle of the next decade. When Polaris seats likely cost in the range of $200,000 or more per seat, there's no way to justify that cost.

Of course if Boeing does in fact build new 767s for UA, those 2 class aircraft will most likely be the first to go. : :crossfingers: :crossfingers: :crossfingers:

..but as luck would have it, 14 of the current 2 class birds are the youngest of the bunch being ‘98-‘01 builds and most of the others that will have Polaris ‘91-‘93 :banghead:
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:51 am

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Of course if Boeing does in fact build new 767s for UA, those 2 class aircraft will most likely be the first to go.

..but as luck would have it, 14 of the current 2 class birds are the youngest of the bunch being ‘98-‘01 builds and most of the others that will have Polaris ‘91-‘93


No need to beat your head against a wall!

To me, it also has appeared odd how the oldest ones will get Polaris, while the youngest (seemingly) won't.

If indeed UA does pick up new 767-322ERs from Boeing, those later-built '98-'01 models will easily find homes with various cargo carriers. The older Polaris-converted frames will fly on with United until their final end.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:48 am

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To me, it also has appeared odd how the oldest ones will get Polaris, while the youngest (seemingly) won't.

Originally the plan was to retire all 763s. Then the plan changed to give the newest 14 life extensions, but the oldest 14 would be retired. About a year after the original 14 were completed (and around the time Polaris became public knowledge), the decision was made to give the older 14 a life extension as well.

The newest build 763s were modded long before Polaris was even known. Unless they were going to be kept for at least another decade (which I doubt, they may start to go at the next heavy check), the cost to upgrade the entire aircraft to match the older 14 being modded now would be pretty prohibitive. Trust me, I wish they would, but even I can't rationalize the cost. It would be throwing millions — potentially even tens of millions — out of the window. That doesn't make sense when these aircraft could very well be reassigned to run p.s. routes or something in a few short years. The cabins are still brand new, they just have an outdated seat. They can't send an aircraft back in for mod if it's unlikely to have even paid off the cost of the last one.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:21 pm

atcsundevil wrote:
Schweigend wrote:
To me, it also has appeared odd how the oldest ones will get Polaris, while the youngest (seemingly) won't.

Originally the plan was to retire all 763s. Then the plan changed to give the newest 14 life extensions, but the oldest 14 would be retired. About a year after the original 14 were completed (and around the time Polaris became public knowledge), the decision was made to give the older 14 a life extension as well.

The newest build 763s were modded long before Polaris was even known. Unless they were going to be kept for at least another decade (which I doubt, they may start to go at the next heavy check), the cost to upgrade the entire aircraft to match the older 14 being modded now would be pretty prohibitive. Trust me, I wish they would, but even I can't rationalize the cost. It would be throwing millions — potentially even tens of millions — out of the window. That doesn't make sense when these aircraft could very well be reassigned to run p.s. routes or something in a few short years. The cabins are still brand new, they just have an outdated seat. They can't send an aircraft back in for mod if it's unlikely to have even paid off the cost of the last one.


Any chance that if UA orders new 763s that theyd move the Polaris seats from the oldest 763s to the new ones and then retire the old planes? Are the seats that portable?
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:23 pm

I surely hope tHe millions to retrofit the 763s includes major rework of labs, coach seats and other infrastructure that equals $200k per Polaris seat. It appears to me that very minor changes to E+ seating pitch would allow Polaris seats ito be installed on the current 2 class units - no Y seat changes, no lav changes, just replace BF seats with Polaris. There would probably be an STC, but $200k per seat is hopefully based on a total retrofit, not just Polaris seats.
So, I believe it would be realistic to swap polaris seats into newer 763 aircraft if and when the older units are sold.
It may make sense to use current 2 class units for ps, hub to hub and Hawaii service if new 763s are purchased. 14 older units with Polaris could be used on LHR service, maybe locking all 14 on LHR service and have spare units in EWR, ORD and LHR to keep the operation running on time.
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Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:30 pm

What about new Polaris full mods on the 764s? United doesn’t call them out on their “progress” subsite
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:13 pm

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Any chance that if UA orders new 763s that theyd move the Polaris seats from the oldest 763s to the new ones and then retire the old planes? Are the seats that portable?

They could if they wanted, but it would be a long way off if that were to happen. It would probably be at least a couple weeks worth of mods, especially if walls or lavs need to be moved around. By that point, their strategy with those aircraft may be quite different. Like I mentioned, they could end up running p.s. routes or otherwise operating domestically using the older seats. Fact is, there's nothing wrong with those seats for the stage lengths they're running. They typically operate 6-8 hour routes max. The sCO seat design is certainly adequate, and the seats themselves are only a couple of years old.

If those newer build 763s are going to stick around long term, then they should certainly receive Polaris. However, I would argue that the rest of the longhaul fleet takes priority. The 764s have the same sCO seats, but they're roughly 3-4 years older and will need replacement sooner. The three class 772s need replacement for obvious reasons (even though it'll be sad to see F go), and the two class birds have sCO seats going on a decade old. The 788s/789s have virtually brand new seats, but considering the length of the routes they operate, they need the best product available. Once that's done, if all current 763s are still in service and the newer deliveries will be kept for a while, then I could see replacement being justified.
 
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Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:19 pm

I heard from an internal source that United is looking to acquire some used 767-300.
 
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Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:34 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
I surely hope tHe millions to retrofit the 763s includes major rework of labs, coach seats and other infrastructure that equals $200k per Polaris seat. It appears to me that very minor changes to E+ seating pitch would allow Polaris seats ito be installed on the current 2 class units - no Y seat changes, no lav changes, just replace BF seats with Polaris. There would probably be an STC, but $200k per seat is hopefully based on a total retrofit, not just Polaris seats.

The three-cabin-to-Polaris 763 mods include new bins in Y, new seats in Y (same seat as existing two-cabin 763s, with signature "leather"), new on-demand IFE (is it like exiting the two-cabin 763s or the 787s? I don't know), new lavs, and I believe new bulkheads:

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73G:
N13716 entered MIA 2697/1Nov for slimlines/new F seats

738:
N76522 entered LCQ 2698/1Nov for slimlines
N76529 entered LCQ 2776/11Oct for slimlines (may have posted this a while ago)

752:
N12116 exited MIA 2809/31Oct with scimitars

763:
N653UA sked to exit SFO 2794/1Nov
N655UA sked to exit SFO 2798/2Nov

772:
N218UA slipped into XMN 2783/19Sep, exited 2775/2Nov
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Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:02 am

What’s happening to the refits on the existing 737 fleet: mostly the new F seat? I’ve done roughly 10 legs over the past 3 months on UA 737s, they were all 800s & 900s, Y seemed to have gotten the new leather slimlines, but F were all the old uncomfortable seats. When are they going to ramp up F hard product on the 737s?
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Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:36 am

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What’s happening to the refits on the existing 737 fleet: mostly the new F seat? I’ve done roughly 10 legs over the past 3 months on UA 737s, they were all 800s & 900s, Y seemed to have gotten the new leather slimlines, but F were all the old uncomfortable seats. When are they going to ramp up F hard product on the 737s?


Sadly only the 737-700s are being refurbished with the new F seat. Next fleet after that is the 757-300s. There’s actually been radio-silence on the 738s and 739s. I hoping for a full fleet upgrade but it’s been eerily quiet.
 
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Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:44 am

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767-400 a/c 3052 was damaged at IAD on Thursday. Will be out of service for at least 14 days. Bad enough that they are flying in people from Boeing to look at it.


Ive searched, what happened to this aircraft?
 
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Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:16 pm

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What’s happening to the refits on the existing 737 fleet: mostly the new F seat? I’ve done roughly 10 legs over the past 3 months on UA 737s, they were all 800s & 900s, Y seemed to have gotten the new leather slimlines, but F were all the old uncomfortable seats. When are they going to ramp up F hard product on the 737s?


Sadly only the 737-700s are being refurbished with the new F seat. Next fleet after that is the 757-300s. There’s actually been radio-silence on the 738s and 739s. I hoping for a full fleet upgrade but it’s been eerily quiet.


Have any of the 753s started yet? Will they replace the economy cabin too?
 
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Thu Nov 02, 2017 4:26 pm

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Cmac787 wrote:
767-400 a/c 3052 was damaged at IAD on Thursday. Will be out of service for at least 14 days. Bad enough that they are flying in people from Boeing to look at it.


Ive searched, what happened to this aircraft?

There's nothing listed on avherald.com, but I'm not sure what their criteria is for reporting incidents to/with aircraft.
 
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Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:25 pm

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horsepowerchef wrote:
Cmac787 wrote:
767-400 a/c 3052 was damaged at IAD on Thursday. Will be out of service for at least 14 days. Bad enough that they are flying in people from Boeing to look at it.


Ive searched, what happened to this aircraft?

There's nothing listed on avherald.com, but I'm not sure what their criteria is for reporting incidents to/with aircraft.


Beltloader came into contact with the fuselage, huge scratch below the bulkhead compartment
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Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:33 pm

Significant damage on the underbelly by a beltloader
 
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Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:39 am

763 (2-class):
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Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:46 am

747-400

N118UA
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Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:27 pm

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747-400

N118UA
SFO-HNL, 10/7, Flight# 0747, 11:00-14:45
HNL-SFO, 10/8, Flight# 2796, 08:00-14:55


That's going to be one hell of a ride! I'm really impressed with UA's efforts on the 747 retirement.
 
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Fri Nov 03, 2017 2:00 pm

One of the farewell videos show that COs first 747 was before UAs and flew ORD-LAX-HNL
I think UA should have flown that route a day before the SFO-HNL flight. ORD-LAX and LAX-HNL are both very important routes that has a storied history for both CO and UA.
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Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:38 pm

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747-400

N118UA
SFO-HNL, 10/7, Flight# 0747, 11:00-14:45
HNL-SFO, 10/8, Flight# 2796, 08:00-14:55

I assume you mean the flights are on Nov 7th and Nov 8th?
 
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Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:48 pm

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KVH68 wrote:
747-400

N118UA
SFO-HNL, 10/7, Flight# 0747, 11:00-14:45
HNL-SFO, 10/8, Flight# 2796, 08:00-14:55

I assume you mean the flights are on Nov 7th and Nov 8th?

Answering on his behalf, affirmative... typo demon strikes again.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:08 pm

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KVH68 wrote:
747-400

N118UA
SFO-HNL, 10/7, Flight# 0747, 11:00-14:45
HNL-SFO, 10/8, Flight# 2796, 08:00-14:55

I assume you mean the flights are on Nov 7th and Nov 8th?


Sorry, my mistake. Here is an updated routing

N118UA (8418)
SFO-HNL, 11/7, Flight# 0747, 11:00-14:45
HNL-SFO, 11/8, Flight# 2796, 08:00-14:55
SFO-VCV, 11/9, Flight# 2778, 08:00-09:25

Currently, there is no routing information for N121UA (8421)
 
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Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:44 am

Unbelievable. In a way I thought the day would never come although I’ve known all year that she would be gone! As it’s been said “Denial is bigger than just a river in Egypt”
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Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:54 pm

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audidudi wrote:
horsepowerchef wrote:

Ive searched, what happened to this aircraft?

There's nothing listed on avherald.com, but I'm not sure what their criteria is for reporting incidents to/with aircraft.


Beltloader came into contact with the fuselage, huge scratch below the bulkhead compartment


Not a scratch, skin penetration. Stringers being replaced........photos are nasty.......
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Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:28 pm

738:
N79521 entered IAH 2047/23Oct, slimlines?
N76522 entered LCQ 2698/1Nov, slimlines
N76529 entered LCQ 2776/11Oct, slimlines

772:
N206UA entered XMN 2776/2Nov, maint

UAX:
CRJ200:
N432AW (1998 build) entered revenue service with ZW (UAX)
N439AW (2003 build) entered revenue service with ZW (UAX)
N440AW (2003 build) entered revenue service with ZW (UAX)

E145:
N13913 is in for fleet exit prep
N15912 is in for fleet exit prep
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738:
N79521 entered IAH 2047/23Oct, slimlines?
N76522 entered LCQ 2698/1Nov, slimlines
N76529 entered LCQ 2776/11Oct, slimlines


Those are all SFP -800s, doing a lot of flying to Hawaii from west coast. Do you think the extra 12 seats will add any payload hits? :scratchchin:
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Ns Gear #....Type..................#..........Mfg SN.....N#...............Fus #....Yr.......Fmr Op
2145.............777-322ER.......045......64989.......N2645U......1548......18......UA
2146.............777-322ER...... 046......64990.......N2846U......1550......18......UA
2147.............777-322ER.......047......64991.......N2747U......1554......18......UA
2148.............777-322ER.......048......64994.......N2748U......TBD.......18......UA

787...............Fus#....Yr......Fmr Op
TBD 787-9...TBD......TBD. CO
TBD 787-10 0731 18 TBD CO
TBD 787-10 0763 18 TBD CO
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Ns Gear #....Type..................#..........Mfg SN.....N#...............Fus #....Yr.......Fmr Op
2145.............777-322ER.......045......64989.......N2645U......1548......18......UA
2146.............777-322ER...... 046......64990.......N2846U......1550......18......UA
2147.............777-322ER.......047......64991.......N2747U......1554......18......UA
2148.............777-322ER.......048......64994.......N2748U......TBD.......18......UA

787...............Fus#....Yr......Fmr Op
TBD 787-9...TBD......TBD. CO
TBD 787-10 0731 18 TBD CO
TBD 787-10 0763 18 TBD CO

Is this 789 Ship 0974 N24974 LN 663 ? Or an additional new order?
Interesting no Ship or registration info yet on the 78Js.. There’s a good gap Ship#s 0920-0949... we’ll see. :twocents:
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Is this 789 Ship 0974 N24974 LN 663 ? Or an additional new order?
Interesting no Ship or registration info yet on the 78Js.. There’s a good gap Ship#s 0920-0949... we’ll see. :twocents:


That should be 0971.......
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calpsafltskeds wrote:
738:
N79521 entered IAH 2047/23Oct, slimlines?
N76522 entered LCQ 2698/1Nov, slimlines
N76529 entered LCQ 2776/11Oct, slimlines


N79521 No SlimLine install......

N76522 SlimLine Install........

#4888 in LCQ for Induction......
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Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:57 am

747-400

N121UA (8421)
SFO-SFO, 11/8, Flight# 2696, 08:00-09:30, (test flight?)
 
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Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:14 am

738:
N76529 exited LCQ 2791/5Nov, first slimline conversion at LCQ
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iahcsr wrote:
Is this 789 Ship 0974 N24974 LN 663 ? Or an additional new order?
Interesting no Ship or registration info yet on the 78Js.. There’s a good gap Ship#s 0920-0949... we’ll see. :twocents:


That should be 0971.......

Ship 0971 is on the CHS FAL, LN642 N29971 .... odd it would show as TBD :confused:
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iahcsr wrote:
CALTECH wrote:
iahcsr wrote:
Is this 789 Ship 0974 N24974 LN 663 ? Or an additional new order?
Interesting no Ship or registration info yet on the 78Js.. There’s a good gap Ship#s 0920-0949... we’ll see. :twocents:


That should be 0971.......

Ship 0971 is on the CHS FAL, LN642 N29971 .... odd it would show as TBD :confused:


Slightly old update, it was lumped in with the 2 787-10s.......
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Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:50 am

739:
N78438 exited RFD 2692/6Nov with slimlines
N36469 entered RFD 2799/6Nov for slimlines/scimitars
This will complete 739 slimline program.
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Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:13 am

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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:01 am

CALTECH wrote:
redrooster3 wrote:
audidudi wrote:
There's nothing listed on avherald.com, but I'm not sure what their criteria is for reporting incidents to/with aircraft.


Beltloader came into contact with the fuselage, huge scratch below the bulkhead compartment


Not a scratch, skin penetration. Stringers being replaced........photos are nasty.......

Trying to imagine how a beltloader could do such damage... :crazy:
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:22 pm

iahcsr wrote:
Trying to imagine how a beltloader driver could do such damage... :crazy:
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:35 pm

jetblastdubai wrote:
iahcsr wrote:
Trying to imagine how a beltloader driver could do such damage... :crazy:

I imagine the driver received some serious damage as well. Don’t think those things have seatbelts :fever: :faint:
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:31 pm

Probably did some damage to his/her career.

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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:03 pm

CALTECH wrote:
redrooster3 wrote:
audidudi wrote:
There's nothing listed on avherald.com, but I'm not sure what their criteria is for reporting incidents to/with aircraft.


Beltloader came into contact with the fuselage, huge scratch below the bulkhead compartment


Not a scratch, skin penetration. Stringers being replaced........photos are nasty.......

Where are said photos?
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:06 pm

As an employee, if I had those photos, I would not be showing them on the internet.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:46 pm

KVH68 wrote:
As an employee, if I had those photos, I would not be showing them on the internet.

Seems like some random ground crew has their iphone out whenever anything happens. Otherwise, we would never see any of these situations. Press don't get to go out on the ramp, generally.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:20 pm

iahcsr wrote:
jetblastdubai wrote:
iahcsr wrote:
Trying to imagine how a beltloader driver could do such damage... :crazy:

I imagine the driver received some serious damage as well. Don’t think those things have seatbelts :fever: :faint:


After a fatality involving a Delta tug driver a couple years ago, I know that we were forced (by OSHA, of course) to install seat belts on any remaining ramp equipment that didn't already have it. At my little airline, we already had them on everything. I'm assuming United was subject to the same draconian OSHA knee jerk.
(I'm certainly a fan of seatbelts, of course... just not OSHA!!!)

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