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Opinions On The 757

Tue Feb 12, 2002 6:16 am

I just would like to know what everyone thinks about the 757??? This can be the -200 or -300. I absolutely love the 757. I think it flies great and I love how the airlines use it. How do you guys feel about the 757 and how many will be sad to see the -200 put out of production??? By the way, when will the -200 be out of production???

Matt~

P.S.- Anyone who has flown on the 753- How is it??? Is the boarding process slow??? Does it flie like the -200??? Etc....
 
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Tue Feb 12, 2002 6:20 am

There's nothing worse than sitting down the back in a chock-a-block 757! The horror, the horror...
 
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Tue Feb 12, 2002 6:25 am

I have flown only once on the 757, but hands down it was the best flight in my life!Although it is not a widebody, it was definitely large enough to where I did not feel cramped in like the smaller jets I am so accustomed to!
 
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Tue Feb 12, 2002 6:31 am

One of the most popular aircrafts ever built. I love the 757...its sleek looks, its power on take offs...its reliablity. The 753 is a bit too long for my tastes though. Still, like the 727 it was built to replace, you'll see the 757 around for decades to come.
 
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Tue Feb 12, 2002 6:39 am

The Boeing 757 is in my opinion the overall best airplane in the Delta fleet. Versatile enough to be equally efficient on long thin transcons, hot and high Latin America markets, and the east coast shorthauls into and out of ATL and CVG.

The 757 is reliable, sturdy, and built to last. It's the easiest narrowbody to work from a ramp service perspective.

The 757 and 767 share the same type rating, which was an important consideration for Delta, the world's largest operator of both types. They also share significant commonality with the 777.

First Class on the 757 is spacious and has an exclusive feel, since most operators configure their 757s with First forward of Door 2 and Coach aft.

I know the 757 isn't the most comfortable aircraft in coach, but it's not that bad. I'm 6'1" and I can still more or less get comfortable.

All around, the 757 is a quality aircraft. I can't think of any downsides.
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Tue Feb 12, 2002 6:40 am

No doubt, one of my favorite planes, for many reasons... the look, the flight deck, the way it flies, its really powerful engines, the feel you get once you're airborne (few jets climb that fast on takeoff)... and I just love that sound flaps make when changing position.

I will never understand those who'd rather fly on an A320 or 321.
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Tue Feb 12, 2002 6:45 am

My experiences on Northwest with this plane was horrible. But most of the problems were the airline's fault(bad interior). It does seem like a fast plane and I like how it looks. Hopefully, I'll have a better experience on another airline, maybe this summer I may be flying the 757 with Delta(And if I'm lucky, the 727 also!  Big thumbs up)
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Tue Feb 12, 2002 6:48 am

Ive Flown on a DL 757 from CVG-ATL and CVG-DFW-CVG the legroom was kind of tight but it was a good experience.
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Tue Feb 12, 2002 7:12 am

The P&W powered 757's are nowhere as powerful as the RR powered 757's. I flew a CO 757 (RR) EWR-IAH, and it felt like a heavy. Boy did those engines rumble. Last summer, I flew a DL 757 (P&W) CVG-ATL, and I found it to be a lot less powerful than than the Continenal 757.
 
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Tue Feb 12, 2002 7:27 am

From a technician's point of view, the 757 is well appreciated. It is a sturdy, efficient and very reliable aircraft. I have not flown on it but I worked on it quite a bit and what I prefer about the 757 is the cockpit. I find it to be plainly fun to work in, better to me than the A330, A310 and L-1011. And believe me, I like those 3 too.

On the other hand, I can understand why passengers would prefer the other 3 than the 757. The narrowbody is less appealling to pax. From what I've heard, passengers still prefer to fly the older L-1011 just because of the room.

That is probably the main reason why companies would get rid of leased 757s. I know the 757 is the most reliable aircraft in Air Transat's fleet (somewhere around 98-99%), but they will be getting rid of them shortly to go to an all widebody fleet.

That being said, I say bravo Boeing for an exceptionnal aircraft which is well proven to this day.
 
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Tue Feb 12, 2002 7:28 am

I think it's wonderful and has long since been my favourite a/c.
 
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Tue Feb 12, 2002 7:31 am

I have flown on the 757 many times and for a narrow body a/c it's the best in my opinion. Eventhough it's not a wide body, you still get the wide body feel. I espesially love the way it 'LAUNCHES' for the runway. I've never flown the Concorde so I have to say that the 757 has provided me with the most exicitng t/o's in the 34 years that I have been flying.(My first flight was at the age of 5(LGA-ATL-MGM round trip on Delta)
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Tue Feb 12, 2002 7:36 am

To get a good feel as to what a 757 can do, try a departure from SNA. Not only is it a noise restricted airport, but the runway is 5700' long. It's like the loudest most impressive takeoff roll I know of in North America.
 
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Tue Feb 12, 2002 7:44 am

I think the 757 is the best narrowbody out there. It is good looking and has, as mentioned before, high thrust to weight ratio giving it outstanding takeoff performance. It is very economical for airlines as well in terms cost per seat mile.

I heard that some airline crews do not like the fact that it is such a long, single-aisle plane. It makes for long boarding/disembarking times.

I love when I get a 757 flight though.
 
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Tue Feb 12, 2002 10:05 am

Eventhough it's not a wide body, you still get the wide body feel.

I guess I don't understand this. How can a 757 give you that wide-body feel any more than a 737?
 
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Tue Feb 12, 2002 10:09 am

I love the 757-200....some of my earliest memories are flying BA aircraft from LHR to GLA and return, and MAN, on the BA Shuttle services. Also on the services to Lisbon, which I flew many times.

Painted in the Landor scheme, they were classy aircraft. Not as much now, but still nice inside.

Still get them up to Newcastle - although these days its more likely to be an A319, or A320 (which are lovely, but that's another story!).
 
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Tue Feb 12, 2002 10:21 am

I love the 757! It's a great airplane! I've only flown on the 752 twice and both times was with Delta. The CMH-CVG flight was horrible. The interior was a mess, it was dirty, the seat fabric was ripped, there were light bulbs that didn't work etc... But the CVG-ORD 752 that I was on was great! That was the cleanest and best looking plane Ive ever flown on.
 
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Tue Feb 12, 2002 10:40 am

Milemaster said it- nothing beats a 757 departure from SNA; I'm not sure what's more fun, though- the takeoff itself, or the look on the faces of those who are not expecting it! And then- the noise abatement throttle-back- what fun!
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Tue Feb 12, 2002 11:41 am

When I mentioned the wide body feel, I was referring to the size of the a/c. It might be psychological, but to me flying in a 757 gives me the sense of more room than a 737. I guess since I fly SWA more frequently than the majors, any change from the 737 is appreciative.
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Wed Feb 13, 2002 2:43 am

I've flown on a transatlantic 757 charter flight (many years ago), and while it was not very roomy (228 seats) it was a very clean aircraft. It was powered by RR RB211-535E4's and the take off was out of this world. Most jets can give you that 'pinned to your seat' feeling on take off, but the 757 takes it much further. It helped that it was a full power take off though. My flight was full, over 200 PAX and full fuel tanks - From a 2600m runway (BHX).

I love the noise the gear and flaps make as well, and the aisle seems to stretch on forever - I would love to see how long the cabin on the -300 is!

The 757 has now sold over 1,000 units, and Boeing must be rubbing it's hands with great satisfaction - I doubt it ever expected to sell that many. It got off to a slow sales start, but it leap-frogged past big brother 767 a few years later.

By the way, I'd much prefer a charter configured 757 to a 767 in the same config - The BY 767's have a 2 4 2 seating arrangement - The one I flew on was a -200 on a 4 hour flight - It was horrible.

Plus let's face it, the 757 is so darn sexy to look at....While the 767 just looks boring.
 
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Wed Feb 13, 2002 5:16 am

Of course the 757 is sexy...its lady long legs, slim body and two big ones !  Laugh out loud

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RE: Opinions On The 757

Wed Feb 13, 2002 5:26 am

I flew an AA 757 last August JFK-SEA. It was a nice plane, though I'll give an edge to the A320's on B6.
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Wed Feb 13, 2002 5:53 am

Great powerful aircraft!
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Wed Feb 13, 2002 6:36 am

A beautiful and economical airplane.
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Wed Feb 13, 2002 6:37 am

Evertime I see a 757/767 I think of tall buildings. Crying
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Wed Feb 13, 2002 6:48 am

The 757's economics are astounding, and it's single-type rating between it and the 767's even enhances its economic efficiency (from the oporators aspect). Whether flying from DFW-BOS or ORD-(anywhere in Europe) it is a absolutly infoulable aircraft.

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RE: Opinions On The 757

Wed Feb 13, 2002 6:48 am

It's one of my least favourite aircraft but I don't really know why.
 
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Wed Feb 13, 2002 7:21 am

I once talked to a Continental 757 pilot (based in EWR), and this is his opinion on the aircraft:

"The 757 is a great aircraft to fly. I can fly short, high density flights to Florida, more medium range routes, such as EWR-IAH, or I can fly it transcon to LAX and SFO. Heck, I can even fly it across the pond!"
 
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Thu Feb 14, 2002 3:42 pm

A few months I flew ATL-BNA on a 757-200. There were only about 5 passengers on the plane. The power was advanced on takeoff and we were in the air almost immediately. It was like a rocketship!
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Thu Feb 14, 2002 5:12 pm

I fly really much on the 752...

I use it a lot on El Al's european legs.

At El Al it has replaced the B707 and it is just great.

Always when I board the plane I cant stop looking at its front, it has something so robotic that I cant explain it.
The cockpit windows are so downwards into the nose.


Great aircraft.



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RE: Opinions On The 757

Thu Feb 14, 2002 11:13 pm


No comment !!!

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RE: Opinions On The 757

Thu Feb 14, 2002 11:20 pm

Not a single negative comment. Interesting.

I love it to, by the way.
 
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Fri Feb 15, 2002 12:04 am

I was on the world's very first scheduled 757 flight--Eastern Airlines from Atlanta to Tampa on January 1, 1983. As a flight attendant I worked the 757 quite frequently from 1983 until 1991 and have flown as a passenger on Delta's 757s many times. My opinion:

Yes, it is a gorgeous, sexy looking aircraft. I always thought it was also quite prehistoric looking; like a pterydactyl. There's nothing that can compare to a full-power takeoff from a tight runway like St. Thomas--the closest thing to a space shuttle launch most of us will ever experience. I don't think the 757 is very comfortable, though. I found it to be very rough riding, especially in the back. Like many long aircraft with wing-mounted engines the tail whips around alot. Also, the ventilation system is very noisy, particularly in the area between the wing and the #2 doors. The closest I ever came to a full-fledged panic attack was sitting near the back of a full Delta 757--I have never felt so cramped and clautrophobic in my life (and it was only relatively short flight from Philadelphia to Atlanta).

I'm sure the 757 is a great money-maker for the airlines but give me the wider seats, wider aisles and quieter cabin of a 717 or MD80 anytime. Overall, though, nothing comes close to a good old 727 for smoothness and comfort.

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RE: Opinions On The 757

Fri Feb 15, 2002 12:52 am


Hi!

I only flew once in the 757. from LHR to LIS in a BA aircraft. It was quite a spacious aircraft and I don't have nothing to argue against. I have some friends that flew CO 757's from LIS to EWR and they didn't like that much, of course it's a 6 hour flight if might be quite tyring. I was quite surprised in 1998 when I was about to return from JFK to LGW in a BA 767-300 ( G-BNWR "Chelsea Rose " ) to se there a BA 757!!!! That was quite a surprise!
Sincerely I think in a medium-haul flight the 757 is a nice plane to fly, if you want a long-haul flight I preffer the 767 or the good old Jumbo!
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Fri Feb 15, 2002 4:00 am

My strange luck, I had the opportunity to fly a 757 with AMerican Airlines last July from Chicago to Los Angeles.

I see there are quite a few fanatics in here who love these things and hug them, so I thought I'd share my POV on this aircraft:

It was a fun flight. Got to sit next to a rabbi and his wife  Smile

But to sum it up, the interior looked to me like a 737-800, only much much longer. Nothing especially different. The fuselage said "luxury jet". Was that just a catch phrase used by Boeing to pitch it to the public when it first came out? Just curious, because I didn't see that designation anywhere else, and even though the interior was quite good thanks to their more room in coach policy, I didn't reallly see anything or experience anything about the 757 that would make me go "WOW!!!" At least nothing radically different from what I'm used to. The A320 left that impression on me, thought it was like comparing a Ford Taurus to a BMW 5-series  Smile

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RE: Opinions On The 757

Fri Feb 15, 2002 5:13 am

The Boeing 757 is truly a mechanical marvel. It's powerful, economical, and can satisfy just about any mission requirement an airline can throw at it.

From short hops like SNA-LAS to long-legged EWR-DUB flights, this plane does it with remarkable grace and beauty.

And since my first B-757 trip (an Eastern Air Lines PHX-ATL trip in 1983) to my most recent (Continental Airlines, PHX-IAH), I still get that feeling of excitement when hearing those big Rolls Royce engines come alive.

Damn fine airplane.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


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RE: Opinions On The 757

Fri Feb 15, 2002 5:24 am

Ntcrawler-

The "Luxury Jet" (narrowbodies) and "Luxury Liner" (widebody) titles are marketing names used by American Airlines on all their aircraft, and have been for decades.

Eastern Air Lines started this in the 60s with the introduction of the B-727, referring to it as a "Whisperjet" since it was the quietest jet in service at that time. The titles were applied to that aircraft, and used in timetables and marketing promotions. Subsequent aircraft that entered the fleet bore either "Whisperjet" or "Whisperliner" titles, depending on if they were narrowbodies or widebodies.

If memory serves, American Airlines followed the trend shortly thereafter, with the "Luxury Jet" and "Luxury Liner" titles.
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Fri Feb 15, 2002 6:24 am

I love the 757, it is one of my two favorite aircraft, the other being A319. I have flow on a 757 11 times, ranging from 589 miles to 2846 miles. here were my flights

DL #1583 ORD-ATL (606 miles)
DL #462 ATL-ORD (606 miles)
DL #1172 SLC-ORD (1249 miles)
UA #656 ORD-EWR (700? miles)
UA #363 IAD-ORD (589 miles)
UA #1044 ORD-MCO (1005 miles)
UA #1211 ORD-ANC (2846 miles)
UA #456 ANC-ORD (2846 miles)
UA #512 SEA-ORD (1749 miles)
Air 2000 #4175 ORD-PUJ (2000? miles)
Air 2000 #4176 PUJ-ORD (2000? miles)

I love it.

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RE: Opinions On The 757

Fri Feb 15, 2002 6:31 am

The 757-200 is the aircraft I`ve been most on. In my opinion it is a very flexible plane for short and also for long flights.

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RE: Opinions On The 757

Fri Feb 15, 2002 6:48 am

I don't like the plane..the only one I've ever been on was an AA flight from MIA to LAX. My earlier LAX to MIA flight was a 763...while the 757 had a more impressive takeoff, the 763 was roomier, had a nicer interior, and had more comfortable seats...the worst possible thing I can imagine is being stuck in a 757 for a transatlantic flight...the horror of it! While it might be mor fun to fly a 757, fomr a passenger's perspective, I must say....767 Forever!

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RE: Opinions On The 757

Fri Feb 15, 2002 6:56 am

what do you mean "the 763 was roomier" AA uses the same seats on 757s and 763s. you can't tell the difference.

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RE: Opinions On The 757

Fri Feb 15, 2002 7:00 am

Actually, TWA902fly, the two aircraft did not have the same seats. At least the upholstry was different, and they sure didn't look or feel anywhere near the same...could it have been one of the TWA aircraft incorporated into the fleet?

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RE: Opinions On The 757

Fri Feb 15, 2002 7:03 am

Interesting thread this one is. Out of a large number of postings, only a very small number have made negative opinions about the aircraft. Surely, this must say something about the 757......
 
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Fri Feb 15, 2002 7:03 am

Also, I might add that the 757 lacked the swivel headrests that the 767 had...
 
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Fri Feb 15, 2002 11:09 pm

The 757 will not likely be replaced anytime soon because it has the following advantages:

1. The plane has very low seat-mile costs.

2. The plane is capable of flying short hops or long ocean flights with ease. Why do you think the 757-200 is popular with European charter operators for flights from Europe to the USA?

3. The plane is easily adaptable to even the upcoming ICAO Stage IV standard for noise emissions, probably with a change in the nacelle design.

Indeed, I think the 757-200 will likely continue in service with airlines around the world until at least 2015--and probably longer given that Boeing may do things like a new wing and newer engines by 2010.
 
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Sat Feb 16, 2002 1:45 am

I have flown the 757 from JFK-LIS-BCN and from STL-IND. It gets a little busy on the short flights(especially when arrivals and runways get changed at the last minute!). But it is a great handling airplane. The 767-200 is very light feeling on the ailerons relative to the elevator. The 757 doesn't have that problem.

It also stops as well as it goes. In SNA, there is absolutely no problem getting stopped. I've never heard anyone who has flown the 757 not like it--although some of the USAir people like their 320's as well as the 757's.

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RE: Opinions On The 757

Sat Feb 16, 2002 2:17 am

From passenger perspective, 767 is a MUCH BETTER flying experience b/c 2-3-2 seating is the ultimate in coach class comfort.
Any 757/767 pilot out there who can comment on which one is more fun to fly?
 
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Sat Feb 16, 2002 2:47 am

Going back to ex Eastern 757s - UK airlines Airtours International and Air 2000 have a small number of these, though they are replacing them soon. The Air 2000 examples are stored at Filton, near Bristol.
 
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Sat Feb 16, 2002 12:09 pm

Pluses
- Launches like a rocket
- Lots of room for first class, Delta puts something like 24 seats in there.

Negatives
- Coach seating is frequently awful, and you are buried in the back of a very long plane. Northwest & AmericaWest are great examples of that, been in the very last middle seat, what a terrible experience!
 
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RE: Opinions On The 757

Sat Feb 16, 2002 12:14 pm

this has got to be my favourite plane, at least for take off. i always enjoy my 757 flights. I was spotting at LHRa week ago, and the 757 had the shortest take off roll (along with biman DC-10) of any aircraft and the steepest climb rate- a very impressive bird.
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