flyguy84 wrote:Good luck getting the pilots to play along.
BobPatterson wrote:Does Southwest's lack of true first class and business class in any way limit the code sharing that they can do?
RJNUT wrote:I vote for FI and EK..They have had some limited interline with FI decades ago and EK needs the feed! and most of the destinations are realistically nothing WN would ever serve themselves!
barney captain wrote:RJNUT wrote:I vote for FI and EK..They have had some limited interline with FI decades ago and EK needs the feed! and most of the destinations are realistically nothing WN would ever serve themselves!
EK likely won't happen as our CBA won't allow codeshare on SOE's (State Owned Enterprises - like the ME3) ot FOC's (Flag of Convenience) carriers such as NAI - without specific approval.
enilria wrote:I think there will be enormous pressure (revenue pressure) to work with the ME3 + TK. It will open up A LOT of new opportunities for the ME3 and provide a lot of revenue to WN. It looks to me like the EK+TK are probably half of B6's code share revenue. It's smaller at AS, but I think it could be that big if they developed it further.
Bottom line, the ME3+TK are where the big money is for code share because they have so few fees options now. Hell, EK doesn't even have interline with any of the US3. They'd put a ton of traffic on WN. The other potential partners are small potatoes.
flyingclrs727 wrote:enilria wrote:I think there will be enormous pressure (revenue pressure) to work with the ME3 + TK. It will open up A LOT of new opportunities for the ME3 and provide a lot of revenue to WN. It looks to me like the EK+TK are probably half of B6's code share revenue. It's smaller at AS, but I think it could be that big if they developed it further.
Bottom line, the ME3+TK are where the big money is for code share because they have so few fees options now. Hell, EK doesn't even have interline with any of the US3. They'd put a ton of traffic on WN. The other potential partners are small potatoes.
That doesn't do me any good. They hub at the wrong airport in Houston. That means I would have to at a minimum double connect to an airport that has both WN and the ME3 + TK. I could drive to IAH in less time and leave my house later than I would have to in order to board an ME3 or TK flight at IAH. That's if all the flights have reasonable connect times which are not over 2 hours. Also those airlines tend to arrive in the evening on the way back to the US. By the time one clears customs, goes through security, and goes to a departure gate, it is too late to get to the last schduled departure to HOU in time for the second connection to home. That means I would need to get a hotel room near the airport where I would enter the US. There's no way I would stay near HOU; it's not a nice neighborhood.
I suspect lots of other smaller cities served by WN might have the same problems. Many of Southwest's hubs are in secondary airports close to downtown but with no scheduled intercontinental service; HOU, DAL, and MDW are the the main ones that come to mind. The most likely hubs to connect at would be IAD, ATL, FLL, DEN, PHX, LAS, LAX, and SFO. DEN is unlikey for an ME3 due to altitude and the long range routes. I don't think I would care to add 5-8 additional flying hours back tracking merely for the connecting flights from airports west of my location to travel east.
enilria wrote:I think it improves the chances for PHX, ATL, DTW, MSP, maybe DEN getting EK.
barney captain wrote:flyguy84 wrote:Good luck getting the pilots to play along.
Codeshare agreed to in the contract signed November 7th.
flyguy84 wrote:Good luck getting the pilots to play along.
jplatts wrote:Delta and Southwest could enter into a limited codeshare agreement that would allow Delta Air Lines to put its code on Southwest flights to/from Amarillo, Lubbock, Midland/Odessa, and Corpus Christi, but would prohibit Delta from putting its code on Southwest flights between two cities served by both Delta Air Lines and Southwest Airlines and vice versa. The reasoning behind the limited codeshare agreement is to give travellers in the West Texas region and Corpus Christi access to Delta Air Lines destinations that Southwest Airlines does not serve and to give Delta Air Lines customers access to destinations within the state of Texas that Delta Air Lines does not serve. Delta Air Lines does not currently serve Amarillo, Lubbock, Midland/Odessa, and Corpus Christi, and a limited codeshare agreement with Southwest Airlines would allow access to these destinations from Delta Air Lines cities not served by Southwest Airlines and would provide an alternative to American Airlines or United Airlines service.