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Aircraft Values, And Lease Pricing - Spring 2017

Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:59 pm

Back by request, here is an update on commercial aircraft valuations and market lease rates.

As before, the below list contains estimated current market value (in USD) based on the oldest to newest airframes, along with sample monthly lease rates based also based on oldest to newest airframes for many common models.

Pax
A319 – $6.5 - 35.7M, $70-260,000
A320 – $1.8 - 43.1M, $40-335,000
A321 – $14.7 - 50.2M, $165-390,000
A330-200 – $23.1 - 85.0M, $255-725,000
A330-300 - $14.2 - 100.1M, $210-850,000
A350-900 - $136.1 - 153.0M, $850-1,050,000
A380-800 - $112.8 - 240.5M, $900-1,900,000
B737-700 - $10.0 - 35.8M, $125-245,000
B737-800 - $13.4 - 45.1M, $170-350,000
B737-900ER - $25.4 - 46.0, $265-365,000
B747-400 – $3.5 – 8.9M, $90-175,000
B747-8i - $109.0 - 150.1, $800,000-1,100,000
B757-200 – $2.6 – 14.1M, $55-200,000
B767-300ER – $5.1 – 42.1M, $95-365,000
B777-200ER – $10.1 – 36.4M, $195-395,000
B777-300ER – $55.3 – 161.8M, $550-1,200,000
B787-8 - $79.6 - 117.9M, $635-875,000
B787-9 - $113.7 - 147.1, $800-1,000,000
CRJ200 – $1.5 - 3.1M, $40-55,000
CRJ700 – $7.5 – 17.7M, $90-200,000
CRJ900 - $8.9 – 24.6M, $130-230,000
Q400 – $7.0 – 20.8M, $95-195,000
ERJ145 – $1.3 – 3.4M, $40-55,000
EMB175 – $13.4 – 30.0M, $120-250,000
EMB190 – $14.4 – 35.1M, $160-295,000
ATR-72 – $4.7 – 20.1M, $60-180,000

Freighter
A330F – $60.4 - 94.9M, $525-750,000
B744F – $21.9 - 48.8M, $235-445,000
B748F – $112.5 - 181.0M, $850-1,350,000
B763F – $18.2 - 65.0M, $240-580,000
B777F – $89.9 - 161.1M, $750-1,150.000
MD11F - $4.7 - 8.1M, $105,000-$155,000


The information is derived from actual transactions along with market valuations and is current as of February 2017.

Sources: IBA/ISTAT
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Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:27 pm

Thank you for such regular updates!
 
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Re: Aircraft Values, And Lease Pricing - Spring 2017

Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:51 pm

Interesting how much more valuable the freighters are than their passenger counterparts.
 
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Re: Aircraft Values, And Lease Pricing - Spring 2017

Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:43 pm

LAXintl wrote:
Back by request, here is an update on commercial aircraft valuations and market lease rates.



Thank you. Awesome!
 
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Re: Aircraft Values, And Lease Pricing - Spring 2017

Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:19 am

cledaybuck wrote:
Interesting how much more valuable the freighters are than their passenger counterparts.


They're not.

Keep in mind most of the freighters listed have a lower age and spec spread.

There is a negligible difference in the value and lease cost of a similar spec 77F and 77W for example.

On another note, it's worth pointing out the huge tumble in 772ER values. They're getting cheap.
 
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Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:45 am

I assume there were very few A340 transactions, right?
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Re: Aircraft Values, And Lease Pricing - Spring 2017

Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:49 am

LAXintl wrote:
Back by request, here is an update on commercial aircraft valuations and market lease rates.

As before, the below list contains estimated current market value (in USD) based on the oldest to newest airframes, along with sample monthly lease rates based also based on oldest to newest airframes for many common models.

Pax
A319 – $6.5 - 35.7M, $70-260,000
A320 – $1.8 - 43.1M, $40-335,000
A321 – $14.7 - 50.2M, $165-390,000
A330-200 – $23.1 - 85.0M, $255-725,000
A330-300 - $14.2 - 100.1M, $210-850,000
A350-900 - $136.1 - 153.0M, $850-1,050,000
A380-800 - $112.8 - 240.5M, $900-1,900,000
B737-700 - $10.0 - 35.8M, $125-245,000
B737-800 - $13.4 - 45.1M, $170-350,000
B737-900ER - $25.4 - 46.0, $265-365,000
B747-400 – $3.5 – 8.9M, $90-175,000
B747-8i - $109.0 - 150.1, $800,000-1,100,000
B757-200 – $2.6 – 14.1M, $55-200,000
B767-300ER – $5.1 – 42.1M, $95-365,000
B777-200ER – $10.1 – 36.4M, $195-395,000
B777-300ER – $55.3 – 161.8M, $550-1,200,000
B787-8 - $79.6 - 117.9M, $635-875,000
B787-9 - $113.7 - 147.1, $800-1,000,000
CRJ200 – $1.5 - 3.1M, $40-55,000
CRJ700 – $7.5 – 17.7M, $90-200,000
CRJ900 - $8.9 – 24.6M, $130-230,000
Q400 – $7.0 – 20.8M, $95-195,000
ERJ145 – $1.3 – 3.4M, $40-55,000
EMB175 – $13.4 – 30.0M, $120-250,000
EMB190 – $14.4 – 35.1M, $160-295,000
ATR-72 – $4.7 – 20.1M, $60-180,000

Freighter
A330F – $60.4 - 94.9M, $525-750,000
B744F – $21.9 - 48.8M, $235-445,000
B748F – $112.5 - 181.0M, $850-1,350,000
B763F – $18.2 - 65.0M, $240-580,000
B777F – $89.9 - 161.1M, $750-1,150.000
MD11F - $4.7 - 8.1M, $105,000-$155,000


The information is derived from actual transactions along with market valuations and is current as of February 2017.

Sources: IBA/ISTAT


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Re: Aircraft Values, And Lease Pricing - Spring 2017

Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:52 am

Boeing 747-8i prices are becoming laughable and shows why nobody wants to finance new 747 passenger aircraft.
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Re: Aircraft Values, And Lease Pricing - Spring 2017

Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:35 am

KarelXWB wrote:
Boeing 747-8i price is becoming laughable and shows why nobody wants to finance new 747 passenger aircraft.

Take a look at a 380!!
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Re: Aircraft Values, And Lease Pricing - Spring 2017

Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:40 am

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Take a look at a 380!!


A380 prices are still holding strong and have even risen, $240 million is a new high.
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Re: Aircraft Values, And Lease Pricing - Spring 2017

Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:29 pm

Thanks for posting blue book values. One thing worth noting is how widebody prices are dropping. In 2015 the cheapest 777-300ER was in the 70s. Now it is in the 50s. More 777-200ERs and A330-300s are approaching scrap value.

It is also interesting how close the A350-900 is to the 777-300ER for top values. With low oil prices I can see why airlines might want to defer expensive 787 and A350 orders.

Narrowbody pricing seems healthy. 737-700 and A319 are close to parity. The 737-800s are worth a little more than A320s and A321s similarly are worth more than 737-900ERs.

One challenge for Boeing is that the recently started a freighter conversion program yet the cheapest 737-800s are still over 13 million. You can find a 767-300ER for that price, which is probably why the 767 freighter conversion market is hot right now.
 
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Re: Aircraft Values, And Lease Pricing - Spring 2017

Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:22 pm

Softaero wrote:
I assume there were very few A340 transactions, right?


There have been some, I just don't post every potential airframe.

A340-300 - $2.4 - 12.1M, $90-175,000
A340-600 - $10.7 - 16.8M, $200-280,000
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Re: Aircraft Values, And Lease Pricing - Spring 2017

Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:09 am

Well, now you can buy 77E with as little money as A320 or B738. I wonder will any airlines trying to spread its wings take this offer. It's interesting to see that A330 has stronger market potential than 77E or 744/748.
Thank you for posting this data, it's always interesting.
By the way, do you have any idea about the price of bizjets?
 
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Re: Aircraft Values, And Lease Pricing - Spring 2017

Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:55 pm

No, don't really have anything for Bizjet or GA aircraft.
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Re: Aircraft Values, And Lease Pricing - Spring 2017

Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:50 am

Do you have any info about the 737-600? I know SK recently have gotten rid of quite a few of them and have also purchased one off lease.

Thanks for creating these threads! Always enjoy them:-)
 
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Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:25 pm

what's the age of the newest A380 being transcated?
 
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Re: Aircraft Values, And Lease Pricing - Spring 2017

Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:48 pm

co38 wrote:
Do you have any info about the 737-600?


B737-600 - $7.1 - 13.2M, $85-140,000

c933103 wrote:
what's the age of the newest A380 being transcated?


Virtually brand new out of factory. There have been sale/lease back transactions, plus carriers like EK are taking leased frames as recent as December 2016.
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benbeny wrote:
By the way, do you have any idea about the price of bizjets?


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Re: Aircraft Values, And Lease Pricing - Spring 2017

Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:04 am

That 747-400 (as a static display) sure is within striking distance if I can find a cheap place to park it.
oh boy, here we go!!!
 
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Re: Aircraft Values, And Lease Pricing - Spring 2017

Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:41 am

How about DC-9, MD-80, MD-90, and 717?
 
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Re: Aircraft Values, And Lease Pricing - Spring 2017

Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:19 pm

I would take some of the values with a grain of salt, especially the higher-end wide body values. There are 6yo A330-300 for sale with a price tag of less than 40mil, and/or lease rates below 400k USD. I suppose it is not much different for the 77W. This puts a lot of pressure on the whole wide body market, especially new sales.

A321neo and 737MAX will be doing missions shortly that used to be widebody territory (and the very odd 757).

I am digressing slightly, but I would not be surprised if we see some wide body cancellations within the next year or so and see (further) 787/330/777 rate cuts.
Airbus and Boeing will have a very hard time selling A330neo's and 777X's in the next couple of years.
 
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Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:56 pm

......but the fundamentals for buying planes still exist. Does the aircraft suit an airlines route network, how much investment in spare parts will be required, has the airline already committed to another aircraft type, how well would such an aircraft fit with the airlines long term strategy, how does the purchase affect the long-term replacement cycle?
 
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Re: Aircraft Values, And Lease Pricing - Spring 2017

Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:44 pm

B717 - $6.7 - 10.4M, $115-133,000
MD-82 - $0.5 - 1.4M, $25-39,000
MD-90 - $2.7 - 3.7M, $65-75,000
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Re: Aircraft Values, And Lease Pricing - Spring 2017

Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:45 am

I look forward to this thread more than any other.

Thank you for posting!

benbeny wrote:
Well, now you can buy 77E with as little money as A320 or B738. I wonder will any airlines trying to spread its wings take this offer. It's interesting to see that A330 has stronger market potential than 77E or 744/748.
Thank you for posting this data, it's always interesting.
By the way, do you have any idea about the price of bizjets?


The drop in value for all widebodies is getting steaper. It is no surprise the 77E and A330 feel the pressure now that growth has slowed and the quantity if 787s and A359s grow.

After the NEO and MAx are out in quantity, in particular after the first major PIPs, more widebody missions will down gauge.

It will get interesting once we can differentiate NEO/MAX from CEO/NG.

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Re: Aircraft Values, And Lease Pricing - Spring 2017

Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:03 am

Of note are B763F lease prices since the program is getting a new lease on life as a freighter in a sweet spot. Amazon must really what is buoying that, even though only a few of the planes for Amazon Prime Air will be under operating lease with their operators...most are being purchased from lessors.

As for the B717 and MD90...doesn't Delta own or will soon own all the flying examples? The 717 is for anyone who doesn't want or can't get an Embraer 195.
 
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Re: Aircraft Values, And Lease Pricing - Spring 2017

Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:24 am

Do these listed lease amounts account for things like various maintenance accruals (aircraft/engine/landing gear)?
 
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Re: Aircraft Values, And Lease Pricing - Spring 2017

Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:59 am

Very interesting. Thanks for the great info.
Surprising to see that you can get like ten MD-11F for the price of one A330F.
 
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Re: Aircraft Values, And Lease Pricing - Spring 2017

Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:20 pm

mercure1 wrote:
Do these listed lease amounts account for things like various maintenance accruals (aircraft/engine/landing gear)?


No such maintenance accruals and other expenses such as insurance are separate.
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