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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Mon May 08, 2017 11:54 am

Batik DPS-PER... happening sooner than you think.

JQ & NAN... didn't they also try OOL-NAN and it didn't work?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Mon May 08, 2017 2:32 pm

CI has closed reservations to CHC on TPE-SYD-CHC from 30 October 2017

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... f-05may17/
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Mon May 08, 2017 3:48 pm

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Qantas source refers to it at an additional service

http://theqantassource.com/qantas-b737- ... ore-extra/


As the link you posted says it operated instead of QF1580, so while technically an additional sector that doesn't answer why.

Maintenance on the 717 fleet is the reason. The fleet is stretched pretty thin so there isn't much in the way of slack for maintenance so either Dash 8s or 737s cover as required. Keep an eye on CBR-SYD, 737s pop up more than you would think because of this.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Tue May 09, 2017 1:06 am

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Qantas source refers to it at an additional service

http://theqantassource.com/qantas-b737- ... ore-extra/


In place of the usual QantasLink B717 QF1580/1581 SYD-MCY-SYD rotation... fairly common for B737s to be drafted in to cover for the B717s.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Tue May 09, 2017 1:06 am

Alan Joyce - Mr PieFace in perth today
Someone wasn't happy and got him, poor form on the security.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western ... a5865dc182
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Tue May 09, 2017 1:17 am

More details on QF PER lounge at T3 for upcoming PER-LHR

Will feature an outdoor terrace and a suitable Aussie themed BBQ area complimented by a Neil Perry inspired BBQ menu
Up 12 showers
A wellness centre

https://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-new-per ... 87-flights

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western ... 03418da6f0
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Tue May 09, 2017 4:18 am

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Alan Joyce - Mr PieFace in perth today
Someone wasn't happy and got him, poor form on the security.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western ... a5865dc182

Made my day. :lol: he forgot to :duck:
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Tue May 09, 2017 5:04 am

waoz1 wrote:
Alan Joyce - Mr PieFace in perth today
Someone wasn't happy and got him, poor form on the security.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western ... a5865dc182


In other news Virgin Australia have announced their new dessert range will consist of lemon meringue cream pies.
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Tue May 09, 2017 6:04 am

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Batik DPS-PER... happening sooner than you think.

JQ & NAN... didn't they also try OOL-NAN and it didn't work?


They dropped OOL-NAN in March apparently. OOL-NAN is a different market to BNE-NAN though, lot more opportunity for this route at BNE.
 
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Tue May 09, 2017 7:21 am

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And I know QF codeshares with (and holds a stake in) FJ but you never know... They went back into DPS and NAN seems like it would be a more premium-skewing market even if the volumes aren't quite a large.


I don't know about this, it's not just a small stake, Qantas own 46% of Fiji Airways. While not to the standard of QF, FJ is still a full service carrier of sorts, would seem counter productive to compete with a fellow full service carrier on the route which you own a large percent of. Passengers booked on QF codeshare flight numbers on FJ already get equivalent QF benefits such as equal luggage allowance and frequent flyers are recognised the same as any QF flight with increased baggage allowance, priority tags, lounge access etc. DPS was different as the only carrier they own on the route was low cost JQ, and competing with mostly other low cost airlines bar GA, so there was some sense entering the market for them to take the higher end. I could however, see JQ launching more services to NAN to tap into the lower end of an already heavily leisure market.
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Tue May 09, 2017 7:26 am

NZ tomorrow (Wednesday) will finally open there new Lounge in MEL, about about 15months after starting to build it.

https://www.ausbt.com.au/photo-tour-air ... ort-lounge

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Which probably will now make it one of the better lounges at MEL? and an huge improved from the tip that is currently the temporary lounge. Wonder if anyone will take over the space that NZ had been using in the short-term.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Tue May 09, 2017 7:56 am

Perth airport fly through of new international upgrade at Perth T4


hope this works
On Perth airport Facebook page


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Tue May 09, 2017 8:01 am

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NZ tomorrow (Wednesday) will finally open there new Lounge in MEL, about about 15months after starting to build it.

https://www.ausbt.com.au/photo-tour-air ... ort-lounge

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Which probably will now make it one of the better lounges at MEL? and an huge improved from the tip that is currently the temporary lounge. Wonder if anyone will take over the space that NZ had been using in the short-term.


Meh...while it might be an improvement over the old lounge, it certainly doesn't look all that inviting...appears to be an unimaginative, cold, sterile and clinical lounge lacking in atmosphere and personality much like the new NZ lounge in BNE, at least the new lounge in BNE has a great view and lots of natural light which makes it a nicer space to be in. One thing I do like about the new NZ lounges are the old posters on the walls, they look cool.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Tue May 09, 2017 8:39 am

A man has been arrested after punching 2 staff members before a flight bound for MEL

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western ... aca76ed3ff
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Tue May 09, 2017 9:14 am

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qf002 wrote:
And I know QF codeshares with (and holds a stake in) FJ but you never know... They went back into DPS and NAN seems like it would be a more premium-skewing market even if the volumes aren't quite a large.


I don't know about this, it's not just a small stake, Qantas own 46% of Fiji Airways. While not to the standard of QF, FJ is still a full service carrier of sorts, would seem counter productive to compete with a fellow full service carrier on the route which you own a large percent of. Passengers booked on QF codeshare flight numbers on FJ already get equivalent QF benefits such as equal luggage allowance and frequent flyers are recognised the same as any QF flight with increased baggage allowance, priority tags, lounge access etc. DPS was different as the only carrier they own on the route was low cost JQ, and competing with mostly other low cost airlines bar GA, so there was some sense entering the market for them to take the higher end. I could however, see JQ launching more services to NAN to tap into the lower end of an already heavily leisure market.


I tend to agree but wouldn't be shocked if QF entered SYD-NAN daily with a 738... can't see much more than that though. QF has partnerships with PX and SB and they operate the same routes together. I don't know about FJ's current fleet situation but could they use an extra aircraft? If QF operated one of the daily FJ SYD rotations (the one that doesn't connect to LAX), this could free up FJ to launch (or increase capacity) to another destination.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Tue May 09, 2017 9:14 am

zkncj wrote:
NZ tomorrow (Wednesday) will finally open there new Lounge in MEL, about about 15months after starting to build it.

https://www.ausbt.com.au/photo-tour-air ... ort-lounge

Image

Which probably will now make it one of the better lounges at MEL? and an huge improved from the tip that is currently the temporary lounge. Wonder if anyone will take over the space that NZ had been using in the short-term.


Nope opened today.

I've seen the space - I enjoy the unique view of the apron, it's different a perspective I haven't seen before. Does seem a wee bit white and cold...

New space is set to be a non-airline lounge (plaza maybe?) also of note the MH lounge has closed so maybe a larger lounge than the NZ one which was an expanded foot print of the UA lounge.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Tue May 09, 2017 9:36 am

Why is there not open skies between Australia and Fiji anyway? Is it Fiji wanting to protect FJ? I couldn't see any reason for it from Australia's point of view.
 
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Tue May 09, 2017 11:52 am

:lol:
waoz1 wrote:
Alan Joyce - Mr PieFace in perth today
Someone wasn't happy and got him, poor form on the security.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western ... a5865dc182


According to BBC News, a man in his 60's or 70's is currently being held in custardy.. ;-)
 
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Tue May 09, 2017 5:18 pm

JannEejit wrote:
:lol:
waoz1 wrote:
Alan Joyce - Mr PieFace in perth today
Someone wasn't happy and got him, poor form on the security.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western ... a5865dc182


According to BBC News, a man in his 60's or 70's is currently being held in custardy.. ;-)


I wonder if he though Mr Joyce was from the Upper Crust of society?


How long before pies get banned in your hand luggage?

What is this all about anyway, I gather quite a few people have had this done to them. Someone in their teens you'd expect to be silly enough to do it, but someone in their 60s or 70s? Really, Alan seems to handled it pretty well. I'm not so sure I would have behaved as calmly or as well as that......
 
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Tue May 09, 2017 5:18 pm

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JannEejit wrote:
:lol:
waoz1 wrote:
Alan Joyce - Mr PieFace in perth today
Someone wasn't happy and got him, poor form on the security.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western ... a5865dc182


According to BBC News, a man in his 60's or 70's is currently being held in custardy.. ;-)


I wonder if he though Mr Joyce was from the Upper Crust of society?


How long before pies get banned in your hand luggage?

What is this all about anyway, I gather quite a few people have had this done to them. Someone in their teens you'd expect to be silly enough to do it, but someone in their 60s or 70s? Really? Alan seems to handled it pretty well. I'm not so sure I would have behaved as calmly or as well as that......
 
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Tue May 09, 2017 5:31 pm

n729pa wrote:
JannEejit wrote:
:lol:
waoz1 wrote:
Alan Joyce - Mr PieFace in perth today
Someone wasn't happy and got him, poor form on the security.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western ... a5865dc182


According to BBC News, a man in his 60's or 70's is currently being held in custardy.. ;-)


I wonder if he though Mr Joyce was from the Upper Crust of society?


How long before pies get banned in your hand luggage?

What is this all about anyway, I gather quite a few people have had this done to them. Someone in their teens you'd expect to be silly enough to do it, but someone in their 60s or 70s? Really, Alan seems to handled it pretty well. I'm not so sure I would have behaved as calmly or as well as that......


Have you been on the internet recently? Over 60s Australians can be very very angry about the world...

There is speculation it could be about Joyce's public statements on same sex marriage, which were met with some controversy. Can't imagine it can be due to industrial disputes because Qantas seems largely behind that now, and not a disgruntled shareholder because shares are soaring... we will see.
 
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Tue May 09, 2017 5:32 pm

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Really, Alan seems to handled it pretty well. I'm not so sure I would have behaved as calmly or as well as that......


+1

That's one cool and collected bloke. I'm sure the board knows this already - but if I were a Qantas board member I would take a lot of comfort from the fact that my CEO is that composed and professional after a very unexpected event. As a board member you absolutely want your CEO to be cool and collected when faced with a complete left field event.
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Wed May 10, 2017 5:02 am

What do we think the prospect of the other Jetstar airlines (GK/3K/BL) entering the long haul LCC market? Obviously this would require a significant order for aircraft but the two major players in the SE Asian LCC market (Air Asia & Scoot/Tiger) are both mixing long and short haul and there is a chance that Jetstar will be left behind.

Jetstar Japan could look at entering the Japan-Hawaii market, as well as look at routes like NRT-NAN/DPS/BKK. All of these destinations currently see JQ service anyway. Could also see GK take over JQ routes like CNS-NRT/KIX and OOL-NRT. Jetstar Asia & Jetstar Pacific would seem less likely but they are not necessarily limited to flying routes originating in their hubs - i.e. 3K could look at 5th freedom routes from BKK or HKG (if they have rights)
 
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JQ could do with some more 787s soon... the introduction of MEL/SYD-SGN has seen reductions in the Japanese flights... 3 or 4 more 787s would allow further Japan routes (CNS-FUK/NGO?), as well as further growth through new routes and increased frequency in SE Asia... JQ still has a very small international presence at BNE for reasons I cannot quite understand... I appreciate that BNE is a significantly smaller market but it also has significantly less competition (even when including OOL)... routes like BKK, MNL, HKT, SGN would seem like they have potential. Growth can also come in MEL/SYD through increasing frequencies on their existing routes and maybe launching a few more (MEL-MNL?)
 
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Thu May 11, 2017 3:04 am

VA to hand over QLD regional routes to Alliance, codeshare instead

Virgin Australia will no longer fly from Brisbane to Bundaberg, Gladstone and Moranbah in Queensland or Port Macquarie in New South Wales from July 17 2017, with these routes instead handed over to Alliance Airlines – and with Virgin Australia to codeshare on Alliance’s flights.


https://www.ausbt.com.au/virgin-austral ... o-alliance

http://australianaviation.com.au/2017/0 ... prop-base/
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Thu May 11, 2017 3:30 am

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What do we think the prospect of the other Jetstar airlines (GK/3K/BL) entering the long haul LCC market? Obviously this would require a significant order for aircraft but the two major players in the SE Asian LCC market (Air Asia & Scoot/Tiger) are both mixing long and short haul and there is a chance that Jetstar will be left behind.


Jetstar used to have A330 services to PEK and KIX from SIN, but dropped them for A320 flights via TPE, MNL and HKG to Japan. Even Scoot flies to Japan via Taiwan rather than direct. Having done both airlines on that route I prefer Jetstar's frequency and times, despite the fact they use narrowbodies.

I do see the various Jetstar branches as quite conservative as opposed to AirAsia, but from a financial viewpoint this is probably a good thing. Their respective parents are established airlines (QF, JAL, VN) so they don't need to chase world domination like AirAsia but fit into their respective parent's strategies (also the case with Scoot/Tiger). Adding an aircraft like the 787 adds complexity and costs to their operations and medium/long-haul reduces utilisation and flexibility. They face a lot of competition in SE Asia so I'm not sure we'll see much longer haul flying out of SIN. Instead they can take advantage of carrying OneWorld and allied passengers on shorter routes where they lack a premium partner (eg SilkAir). I'm not convinced that the SE Asia to Europe routes are going to be that profitable for any of the LCCs so unless Qantas sees some need to offer a cheaper service via SIN or Vietnam to complement their direct flights bypassing Asia altogether I wouldn't expect them to follow.

What could be interesting is onward flights from Japan. Considering that Japan inbound tourism is booming the option to combine a stay over there with an onwards flight to Europe or the US (eg Hawaii) could be attractive. Also, with declining wages in Japan JAL may want to replace some services with a cheaper Jetstar alternative. But GK have had issues with certifications so their international flight expansion has been delayed and adding 787s means extra complexity in operations
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Thu May 11, 2017 3:33 am

I did some quick numbers for the Jetstar franchises. If each one if them + Cebu introduced daily 787 flights to major markets in Europe and West coast USA and maintained current long haul they would need just under 100 aircraft. If only the franchises could get their act together!
 
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Thu May 11, 2017 3:54 am

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VA to hand over QLD regional routes to Alliance, codeshare instead

Virgin Australia will no longer fly from Brisbane to Bundaberg, Gladstone and Moranbah in Queensland or Port Macquarie in New South Wales from July 17 2017, with these routes instead handed over to Alliance Airlines – and with Virgin Australia to codeshare on Alliance’s flights.


https://www.ausbt.com.au/virgin-austral ... o-alliance

http://australianaviation.com.au/2017/0 ... prop-base/


Given these appear to be QQ operated RPT flights, I assume these will operate from the common user area at BNE Domestic (as opposed to the Virgin area)? BNE domestic will be bursting at the seems soon enough...
 
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Thu May 11, 2017 4:03 am

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Qantas16 wrote:
What do we think the prospect of the other Jetstar airlines (GK/3K/BL) entering the long haul LCC market? Obviously this would require a significant order for aircraft but the two major players in the SE Asian LCC market (Air Asia & Scoot/Tiger) are both mixing long and short haul and there is a chance that Jetstar will be left behind.


Jetstar used to have A330 services to PEK and KIX from SIN, but dropped them for A320 flights via TPE, MNL and HKG to Japan. Even Scoot flies to Japan via Taiwan rather than direct. Having done both airlines on that route I prefer Jetstar's frequency and times, despite the fact they use narrowbodies.

I do see the various Jetstar branches as quite conservative as opposed to AirAsia, but from a financial viewpoint this is probably a good thing. Their respective parents are established airlines (QF, JAL, VN) so they don't need to chase world domination like AirAsia but fit into their respective parent's strategies (also the case with Scoot/Tiger). Adding an aircraft like the 787 adds complexity and costs to their operations and medium/long-haul reduces utilisation and flexibility. They face a lot of competition in SE Asia so I'm not sure we'll see much longer haul flying out of SIN. Instead they can take advantage of carrying OneWorld and allied passengers on shorter routes where they lack a premium partner (eg SilkAir). I'm not convinced that the SE Asia to Europe routes are going to be that profitable for any of the LCCs so unless Qantas sees some need to offer a cheaper service via SIN or Vietnam to complement their direct flights bypassing Asia altogether I wouldn't expect them to follow.

What could be interesting is onward flights from Japan. Considering that Japan inbound tourism is booming the option to combine a stay over there with an onwards flight to Europe or the US (eg Hawaii) could be attractive. Also, with declining wages in Japan JAL may want to replace some services with a cheaper Jetstar alternative. But GK have had issues with certifications so their international flight expansion has been delayed and adding 787s means extra complexity in operations


3K's A330 services were very small though, they never had a substantial fleet to really make a difference. Apart from that, I tend to agree with you that 3K/BL will be harder to do but that GK has potential. Jetstar is currently the largest LCC in the HNL market (source: https://centreforaviation.com/insights/ ... aii-338909) and there is potential there for them to leverage this even further to enter the HNL-Japan market. Routes like HNL-NRT, KIX, NGO, FUK, CTS could all see GK service (and not all of these would be in competition with JL). This would allow them to leverage existing brand recognition in both markets, something that TZ and D7 don't have. Further services like OGG-NRT & KIX and even KOA could be possible.
 
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Batik Air

I can see some flights on skyscanner prices don't come up tho
Perth - Bali from 21st June

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Thu May 11, 2017 5:04 am

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JQ & NAN... didn't they also try OOL-NAN and it didn't work?


Beach Market to Beach Market route that was a very risky attempt due to the ultra low yield nature on both ends of the route. Not sure if BNE-NAN can support 3-carriers, in addition to JQ's parent company (QF group) having a stake in Fiji Airways which makes JQ entering BNE-NAN less likely.

Fiji Airways (as Air Pacific) couldn't make OOL-NAN work as a Full Service carrier a fews year back before Jetstar's ill-fated attempt on this route as a LCC.
 
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Thu May 11, 2017 8:05 am

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eta unknown wrote:
JQ & NAN... didn't they also try OOL-NAN and it didn't work?


Beach Market to Beach Market route that was a very risky attempt due to the ultra low yield nature on both ends of the route. Not sure if BNE-NAN can support 3-carriers, in addition to JQ's parent company (QF group) having a stake in Fiji Airways which makes JQ entering BNE-NAN less likely.

Fiji Airways (as Air Pacific) couldn't make OOL-NAN work as a Full Service carrier a fews year back before Jetstar's ill-fated attempt on this route as a LCC.


Though JQ had the advantage in that they could connect Japan with Nadi (via OOL) and also lots of surfers on the GC who are after low fares to other surfing destinations. Obviously wasn't enough though.

I think BNE-NAN is still possible on JQ, though its only a 500 seat increase allowed in the agreement so that's only 2.5weekly with an A320... hardly worth while...
 
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Thu May 11, 2017 11:51 am

From December, China Airlines will increase Sydney services to double daily as well as introduce the A350 onto the route. The airline however will cease transtasman flights from Sydney.
China Airlines today (11MAY17) adjusted planned Taipei Taoyuan – Sydney operation for Northern winter 2017 season, as the Skyteam member launches A350 operation as well as 2nd daily flight from 01DEC17. Sydney is currently served by A330-300 aircraft.

CI055 TPE0810 – 2025SYD 359 D
CI051 TPE2330 – 1150+1SYD 359 D

CI056 SYD1330 – 1950TPE 359 D
CI052 SYD2210 – 0430+1TPE 359 D

Premium Economy Class on A350 for Sydney service is sold as Economy Class.

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... e-changes/
 
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From December, China Airlines will increase Sydney services to double daily as well as introduce the A350 onto the route. The airline however will cease transtasman flights from Sydney.
China Airlines today (11MAY17) adjusted planned Taipei Taoyuan – Sydney operation for Northern winter 2017 season, as the Skyteam member launches A350 operation as well as 2nd daily flight from 01DEC17. Sydney is currently served by A330-300 aircraft.

CI055 TPE0810 – 2025SYD 359 D
CI051 TPE2330 – 1150+1SYD 359 D

CI056 SYD1330 – 1950TPE 359 D
CI052 SYD2210 – 0430+1TPE 359 D

Premium Economy Class on A350 for Sydney service is sold as Economy Class.

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... e-changes/


Ah that's interesting - I had no idea CI were doing so well into SYD. Their Y fares have seemed a little on the high side any time I have looked at them as a one-stop option.

I think this will be SYD's first scheduled A350 too. Have there even been any visitiors aside from the original Airbus promo tour/s?
 
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Thu May 11, 2017 12:23 pm

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I think this will be SYD's first scheduled A350 too. Have there even been any visitiors aside from the original Airbus promo tour/s?

Yeah, it's the first announced scheduled A350 service to Sydney. In addition to the Airbus one that came here during route proving, there was a SQ flight that diverted from Melbourne a couple of weeks ago due to weather.
 
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From December, China Airlines will increase Sydney services to double daily as well as introduce the A350 onto the route. The airline however will cease transtasman flights from Sydney.
China Airlines today (11MAY17) adjusted planned Taipei Taoyuan – Sydney operation for Northern winter 2017 season, as the Skyteam member launches A350 operation as well as 2nd daily flight from 01DEC17. Sydney is currently served by A330-300 aircraft.

CI055 TPE0810 – 2025SYD 359 D
CI051 TPE2330 – 1150+1SYD 359 D

CI056 SYD1330 – 1950TPE 359 D
CI052 SYD2210 – 0430+1TPE 359 D

Premium Economy Class on A350 for Sydney service is sold as Economy Class.

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... e-changes/


Ah that's interesting - I had no idea CI were doing so well into SYD. Their Y fares have seemed a little on the high side any time I have looked at them as a one-stop option.

I think this will be SYD's first scheduled A350 too. Have there even been any visitiors aside from the original Airbus promo tour/s?


Also CI will go from 4 weekly to daily on TPE-BNE-AKL from 1 Dec
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Thu May 11, 2017 12:47 pm

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A330freak wrote:
From December, China Airlines will increase Sydney services to double daily as well as introduce the A350 onto the route. The airline however will cease transtasman flights from Sydney.
China Airlines today (11MAY17) adjusted planned Taipei Taoyuan – Sydney operation for Northern winter 2017 season, as the Skyteam member launches A350 operation as well as 2nd daily flight from 01DEC17. Sydney is currently served by A330-300 aircraft.

CI055 TPE0810 – 2025SYD 359 D
CI051 TPE2330 – 1150+1SYD 359 D

CI056 SYD1330 – 1950TPE 359 D
CI052 SYD2210 – 0430+1TPE 359 D

Premium Economy Class on A350 for Sydney service is sold as Economy Class.

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... e-changes/


Ah that's interesting - I had no idea CI were doing so well into SYD. Their Y fares have seemed a little on the high side any time I have looked at them as a one-stop option.

I think this will be SYD's first scheduled A350 too. Have there even been any visitiors aside from the original Airbus promo tour/s?


Thats a very nice capacity increase for TPE-SYD!! Wonder if we will see TPE-MEL increased at some stage too?

And in the land of never ending China to Melbourne/Australia flights

MEL-SZX seems to be finally going ahead!

CA has reopened MEL-SZX reservations: Due to start 20 JUN, x3 weekly

Booking is now available!

CA768 MEL 21:00 - 04:25+1 SZX A330 257
CA767 SZX 00:55 - 12:00 MEL A330 257
 
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Thu May 11, 2017 3:52 pm

Man charged with assault after slapping a TT employee across the face after being told his flight was cancelled

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Thu May 11, 2017 4:08 pm

QF is ramping up their marketing in London. They were on the Southbank this morning handing out tim tams and A5 flyers about the new LHR-PER flights.

Very interestingly - the little map on the back of the flyer (sorry I can't get an image to post) says 'connect to more than 10 destinations across Australia' with the standard route map lines on a map of Australia going out from Perth to:
Kalgoorlie
Geraldton
Newman
Broome
Port Headland
Paraburdoo
Karratha
Adelaide
Melbourne
Canberra
Brisbane
Sydney

I know that the number of destinations from Perth is naturally skewed towards WA destinations - but they left the likes of ASP and DRW off completely.

I wonder if this is part of the quid pro quo for getting WA government funds for their new terminal - i.e. pushing WA tourism. If I were Tourism NT I wouldn't be thrilled at having been left off completely.
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Thu May 11, 2017 4:31 pm

luftaom wrote:
QF is ramping up their marketing in London. They were on the Southbank this morning handing out tim tams and A5 flyers about the new LHR-PER flights.

Very interestingly - the little map on the back of the flyer (sorry I can't get an image to post) says 'connect to more than 10 destinations across Australia' with the standard route map lines on a map of Australia going out from Perth to:
Kalgoorlie
Geraldton
Newman
Broome
Port Headland
Paraburdoo
Karratha
Adelaide
Melbourne
Canberra
Brisbane
Sydney

I know that the number of destinations from Perth is naturally skewed towards WA destinations - but they left the likes of ASP and DRW off completely.

I wonder if this is part of the quid pro quo for getting WA government funds for their new terminal - i.e. pushing WA tourism. If I were Tourism NT I wouldn't be thrilled at having been left off completely.


Interesting. I would say ASP and DRW have been left off as the flight schedules don't fit in with the PER-LHR schedule. I wonder why they haven't included LEA either as I would rate that up with BME as one of the top destinations on the list for tourism in WA
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Thu May 11, 2017 7:47 pm

Neither DRW nor ASP will connect with LHR-PER
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Thu May 11, 2017 8:16 pm

I didn't realise that QF had canned the evening 737 PER-DRW which overnighted in DRW and went back DRW-PER fairly early in the morning. It wasn't daily but it must have been 3 or 4 times a week. Even still for a marketing brochure it seems strange to leave out destinations which wouldn't have cluttered their map.
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Thu May 11, 2017 10:29 pm

The QF800/801 returns in June.
 
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Thu May 11, 2017 11:42 pm

EK 3rd daily to BNE with a 77L was anyone expecting this?

https://www.ausbt.com.au/emirates-boost ... ai-service
 
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Thu May 11, 2017 11:54 pm

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EK 3rd daily to BNE with a 77L was anyone expecting this?

https://www.ausbt.com.au/emirates-boost ... ai-service


Was rumoured on the BNE Skyscrapercity forum

01DEC17

EK430 DXB 22:00 - 18:15+1 BNE 772 D
EK431 BNE 22:25 - 07:00+1 DXB 772 D

https://www.ausbt.com.au/emirates-bo...-dubai-service

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Thu May 11, 2017 11:59 pm

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The QF800/801 returns in June.


Yup, it's a seasonal service that operates through the height of the Top End's dry season. Along with QF800/801 returning, so too will QF842/841 MEL-DRW-MEL (Tues, Thurs) and QF844/845 SYD-DRW-SYD (Mon, Wed, Fri), also seasonal services for the Top End dry.
 
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Fri May 12, 2017 12:01 am

log0008 wrote:
smi0006 wrote:
EK 3rd daily to BNE with a 77L was anyone expecting this?

https://www.ausbt.com.au/emirates-boost ... ai-service


Was rumoured on the BNE Skyscrapercity forum

01DEC17

EK430 DXB 22:00 - 18:15+1 BNE 772 D
EK431 BNE 22:25 - 07:00+1 DXB 772 D

https://www.ausbt.com.au/emirates-bo...-dubai-service

Congrats BNE!


Great news! The 1815 arrival is great but the 2225 departure is only 1.5hours after the EK434 departure, not exactly making any new connection opportunities with that?
 
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Fri May 12, 2017 12:08 am

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MooLor wrote:
A330freak wrote:
From December, China Airlines will increase Sydney services to double daily as well as introduce the A350 onto the route. The airline however will cease transtasman flights from Sydney.

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... e-changes/


Ah that's interesting - I had no idea CI were doing so well into SYD. Their Y fares have seemed a little on the high side any time I have looked at them as a one-stop option.

I think this will be SYD's first scheduled A350 too. Have there even been any visitiors aside from the original Airbus promo tour/s?


Also CI will go from 4 weekly to daily on TPE-BNE-AKL from 1 Dec


Huge capacity increase given SYD-TPE is currently 4x weekly (not to mention the feed from AKL) so run as a 14x weekly standalone... Great news for SYD and BNE though, would hope to see the A350 at BNE soon and keep it daily year-round.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Fri May 12, 2017 3:02 am

The MH126/127 appears to be downgraded to a 738, is this a temporary downgrade for a few weeks?
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