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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Sun May 14, 2017 2:27 pm

Hey guys
Re naming the QF Dreamliners....
Radio 2CH in Sydney ran a travel program today hosted by Catriona Rowntree (think 'Getaway' on Channel 9) which focussed on the naming of the Dreamliners. Most popular were indigenous names and landscape names. Famous people came third.
A large number of people suggested names associated with pies....
I for one believe that indigenous names (think Wunula and Nalanji) or World Heritage locations are the best ideas. Keep famous aviation pioneers to the A380s and reserve the names of capital cities for the 777-8s or A350s... Lol...
I like the idea of linking the DREAMliner to the DREAMtime....
And for that matter, I still believe that Sydney West airport should gain an indigenous name or perhaps be named after Charles Ulm or Lawrence Hargreaves. Definitely NOT after Gough Whitlam as many want, nor Don Bradman as he had zip to do with the area and little to do with aviation even though he is arguably our greatest ever sportsman.
Cheers,
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PS: I'd put money on the next tranche of QF Dreamliner orders being 4 x -9s for QF mainline and possibly 3 or 4 -8s or even -9s for Jetstar to restore the JQ fleet to the originally planned 14/15 and allow for some limited international expansion.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Sun May 14, 2017 10:23 pm

I've never heard of "Mellie" Melba.

Perhaps you mean "Dame Nellie Melba" who was one of the great Australians, our first star-power opera singer, who collected fortunes for charity during WW1, a genuine diva.


No, nothing to do with Nellie Melba though I wrote Mellie Melba whereas the Virgin Blue plane was actually Mille Melbourne; just another terrible corny name along with such gems as Candid Canberra, Brizzy Lizzy, Blue Billy, Smoochy Marocchy and Mackay-be Diva. Thank god JB also cringed at this rubbish and moved to the much classier beach names.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Sun May 14, 2017 10:47 pm

CB80Scania wrote:
Any ideas why QF61 (Brisbane to Tokyo-Narita operated by VH-QPA) is taking a massive diversion north west?

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/VHQPA


Because of this it arrived in NRT just before curfew and the subsequent QF62 has been delayed overnight.

Also, fog in BNE this morning led to the following diversions:

AC35, VA46, JQ58, QF652 and TT655 diverted to OOL
EK434 diverted to SYD
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Mon May 15, 2017 1:40 am

Qantas Freight takes delivery of first 737-400F

http://australianaviation.com.au/2017/0 ... f-arrives/
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Mon May 15, 2017 4:31 am

bunumuring wrote:
Hey guys
Re naming the QF Dreamliners....
Radio 2CH in Sydney ran a travel program today hosted by Catriona Rowntree (think 'Getaway' on Channel 9) which focussed on the naming of the Dreamliners. Most popular were indigenous names and landscape names. Famous people came third.
A large number of people suggested names associated with pies....
I for one believe that indigenous names (think Wunula and Nalanji) or World Heritage locations are the best ideas. Keep famous aviation pioneers to the A380s and reserve the names of capital cities for the 777-8s or A350s... Lol...
I like the idea of linking the DREAMliner to the DREAMtime....
And for that matter, I still believe that Sydney West airport should gain an indigenous name or perhaps be named after Charles Ulm or Lawrence Hargreaves. Definitely NOT after Gough Whitlam as many want, nor Don Bradman as he had zip to do with the area and little to do with aviation even though he is arguably our greatest ever sportsman.
Cheers,
Bunumuring.
PS: I'd put money on the next tranche of QF Dreamliner orders being 4 x -9s for QF mainline and possibly 3 or 4 -8s or even -9s for Jetstar to restore the JQ fleet to the originally planned 14/15 and allow for some limited international expansion.


THe aircraft itself is called the Dreamliner by Boeing and most carriers, so lets keep it at that. . As for names , how about we keep it to Places like cities as per the old 767 fleet, or river systems and the like. Using Indigenous names that most Australians have never heard of , let alone overseas tourists etc is not worth it in my book. And while on the subject please lets not have another Wunala or Nalanji scheme as IMO they looked tacky, nothing wrong with Indegenous art , ( I have 2 on my walls at home) but please not on another airplane. Unless its like the 737 thats currently flying

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Mon May 15, 2017 4:38 am

CA will finally start MEL-SZX on 20 June 17, 3 weekly

https://www.ausbt.com.au/air-china-firm ... en-flights
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Mon May 15, 2017 4:46 am

Moody's upgrades QF's credit rating

Moody’s announced Monday that the Australian carrier’s credit rating has been upgraded from Baa3 to Baa2. Both ratings are investment grade.
“While we expect Qantas' credit metrics to remain fairly stable for the next 12-18 months, the upgrade reflects our greater focus on qualitative factors,’’ Moody’s vice president- senior credit officer Ian Chitterer said in the upgrade announcement.
 “This includes the unique traits of the Australian continent and airline market, Qantas Group's strong domestic position, and diversification provided by the loyalty program.


http://www.airlineratings.com/news/1231 ... dit-agency
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Mon May 15, 2017 4:51 am

bunumuring wrote:
Hey guys
Radio 2CH in Sydney ran a travel program today hosted by Catriona Rowntree (think 'Getaway' on Channel 9) which focussed on the naming of the Dreamliners. Most popular were indigenous names and landscape names. Famous people came third.
A large number of people suggested names associated with pies....


I'm sure that, after Boaty McBoatface, names will be selected by Qantas on their appropriateness rather than whimsy and popularity. If pies do feature then I'm sure it will be an aircraft named Collingwood. I mean VA have Manly (Beach) which is kind of the same. ;)

Then again, Scoot named one of their aircraft Barry...
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Mon May 15, 2017 3:26 pm

The pie thrower from last week has copped a lifetime ban from QF

https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/perth-ma ... b88476534z
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Mon May 15, 2017 3:43 pm

VA to offer passengers flying between MEL, SYD & BNE the option to now purchase on the spot business class upgrades via a new UpgradeMe Buy Now Trial, which will see their economy seat switched for a business class seat ticket at a reduced price.

https://www.ausbt.com.au/virgin-austral ... s-upgrades
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Tue May 16, 2017 3:05 am

Man who shoved pie in Qantas CEO's face

Life time ban from flying Qantas.
https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/perth-ma ... b88476534z
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Tue May 16, 2017 4:15 am

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Man who shoved pie in Qantas CEO's face

Life time ban from flying Qantas.
https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/perth-ma ... b88476534z


Good, would love to see Virgin also ban him out of principle - though that is a slippery slope.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Tue May 16, 2017 4:23 am

Qantas is scheduled to operate two A380 flights out of BNE next week:

21/5 QF6053 departs @ 2240 for DXB/LHR
22/5 QF6051 departs @ 1330 for LAX

From what I can gather, as a result, QF9 will not operate on the 21st and QF 11 on the 22nd will be operated by a 747 instead of the usual A380.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Tue May 16, 2017 4:53 am

TO do what?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Tue May 16, 2017 5:14 am

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TO do what?



Charters, someone will know the details but I think some religious group charters them every year.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Tue May 16, 2017 5:18 am

log0008 wrote:
qf2220 wrote:
TO do what?



Charters, someone will know the details but I think some religious group charters them every year.


QF operated a religious charter from LAX a few days ago

http://theqantassource.com/qantas-a380- ... diversion/
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Tue May 16, 2017 5:21 am

Qantas16 wrote:
CB80Scania wrote:
Any ideas why QF61 (Brisbane to Tokyo-Narita operated by VH-QPA) is taking a massive diversion north west?

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/VHQPA


Because of this it arrived in NRT just before curfew and the subsequent QF62 has been delayed overnight.

Also, fog in BNE this morning led to the following diversions:

AC35, VA46, JQ58, QF652 and TT655 diverted to OOL
EK434 diverted to SYD


QF61 took the diversion as there was an issue with the aircraft making it non-ETOPS compliant

http://theqantassource.com/qantas-a330- ... g-routing/
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Tue May 16, 2017 5:42 am

SQ to cancel 3 flights on capital express route (14 August, 5 September and 24 October) ex WLG due to weaker demand

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/9264436 ... ss-service
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Tue May 16, 2017 6:13 am

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SQ to cancel 3 flights on capital express route (14 August, 5 September and 24 October) ex WLG due to weaker demand

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/9264436 ... ss-service


Oh wow, 3 flights! that is so much. I'm surprised this made the news and that there's an article about it.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Tue May 16, 2017 6:59 am

kriskim wrote:
qf789 wrote:
SQ to cancel 3 flights on capital express route (14 August, 5 September and 24 October) ex WLG due to weaker demand

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/9264436 ... ss-service


Oh wow, 3 flights! that is so much. I'm surprised this made the news and that there's an article about it.

It is the only long haul flight out of WLG (albeit via CBR) so is somewhat important to WLG.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Tue May 16, 2017 8:17 am

The flight path changes regarding VH-QPA is certainly interesting. Seems like today it positioned empty from BNE-SYD and then operated QF23 to BKK. Could anyone more educated in the field of ETOPS technical operations suggest as to what the actual issue was that could result in ETOPS non-compliance?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Tue May 16, 2017 9:07 am

qf789 wrote:
Qantas16 wrote:
CB80Scania wrote:
Any ideas why QF61 (Brisbane to Tokyo-Narita operated by VH-QPA) is taking a massive diversion north west?

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/VHQPA


Because of this it arrived in NRT just before curfew and the subsequent QF62 has been delayed overnight.

Also, fog in BNE this morning led to the following diversions:

AC35, VA46, JQ58, QF652 and TT655 diverted to OOL
EK434 diverted to SYD


QF61 took the diversion as there was an issue with the aircraft making it non-ETOPS compliant

http://theqantassource.com/qantas-a330- ... g-routing/


In which case, why not send QPA to SIN or HKG and have the other aircraft operate to NRT instead?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Tue May 16, 2017 10:13 am

Don't shoot the messenger...tentatively scheduled A350 ops by TG to MEL again SEP-OCT only at this stage, 465/466 flight.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Tue May 16, 2017 10:40 am

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In which case, why not send QPA to SIN or HKG and have the other aircraft operate to NRT instead?


The issue may not have presented until after departure or until after it was too late to swap the aircraft over at BNE.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Tue May 16, 2017 10:51 am

ATSB is currently investigating an incident involving a JQ 788. VH-VKA performing JQ8 SIN-MEL on Saturday stopped climbing at 6000 feet due to flap asymmetry. The aircraft safely returned to SIN for an overweight landing and has not flown since.

http://avherald.com/h?article=4a9013b8&opt=0
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Tue May 16, 2017 11:08 am

Batik air confirms Perth
21st June double daily on a mix of 737-800,737-900er and A320s

Hoping to add Sydney and Melbourne
http://www.batikair.com/News/Details/46
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Tue May 16, 2017 1:24 pm

Might VH-QPA have a U/S APU at the moment?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Wed May 17, 2017 8:22 am

JetGo will launch twice weekly services between OOL and ABX from the 29th of June
 
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Wed May 17, 2017 10:29 am

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Wed May 17, 2017 11:11 am

Do VH-OJS/T/U have the same interior as the 400ERs?
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Wed May 17, 2017 11:46 am

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Do VH-OJS/T/U have the same interior as the 400ERs?


Yes they do. They were upgraded in the last round
 
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Wed May 17, 2017 11:48 am

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JetGo will launch twice weekly services between OOL and ABX from the 29th of June


Great move for regional Australia. ABX has a good population of 150k to help support this. Their BNE services ex ABX have been quite successful from what I have heard.

Would be interesting to see if JetGo look at partnering with QF or VA in the near future
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Wed May 17, 2017 6:38 pm

kriskim wrote:
qf789 wrote:
SQ to cancel 3 flights on capital express route (14 August, 5 September and 24 October) ex WLG due to weaker demand

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/9264436 ... ss-service


Oh wow, 3 flights! that is so much. I'm surprised this made the news and that there's an article about it.



Definitely significant. Only ~18 flights/month so cancelling one a month does have an impact. Also - tells us that the flight frequency is unlikely to go daily this year, demand/yields must be soft. SQ may be ok to persist as long as fuel prices stay low and they can use an extremely old aircraft.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Wed May 17, 2017 7:06 pm

To be fair cancelling one flight a month is pretty insignificant, it doesn't really tell us anything other than it is the low season and several routes across all airlines do this at slow times, they could go daily over the peak period if demand is there. The 772's they use are hardly extremely old, maybe a little older than SQ average but same interiors as the A330's in the SQ fleet.

Regards VH-OJS/T/U they should be due for D checks this year, then QF plan to retire them by end of next year, I thought with low fuel prices and same interiors as the ER's they would hold onto them a little longer.
 
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Wed May 17, 2017 7:53 pm

qantas747 wrote:
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Do VH-OJS/T/U have the same interior as the 400ERs?


Yes they do. They were upgraded in the last round


Thanks, so Qantas will be down to just one 747 configuration by the end of the year? About time!
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Wed May 17, 2017 10:02 pm

Someone said OJM will be gone by End August while OEB had its F seats re covered which seems it will be used on the Captains Choice tour? Think it's a different tour name next April and is 4 class.

I wonder weather in 2012/13 when the 744's were refitted if OEB being a 1993 build and 1 or 2 1992 builds should have been kept and refitted? Back then though they were going to down to 9 by 2014.

It can be a pain but generally OEB/OJM only do HND/JNB/SCL but invariably they do appear as subs on other routes which must be an unpleasant surprise for J pax.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Wed May 17, 2017 11:45 pm

qantas747 wrote:
Qantas16 wrote:
JetGo will launch twice weekly services between OOL and ABX from the 29th of June


Great move for regional Australia. ABX has a good population of 150k to help support this. Their BNE services ex ABX have been quite successful from what I have heard.

Would be interesting to see if JetGo look at partnering with QF or VA in the near future


OOL-ABX service will apparently extend to/from ROK, for a full routing of ROK-OOL-ABX. Announced on the airline's facebook page last night AEST.
 
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Thu May 18, 2017 12:09 am

DeltaB717 wrote:
qantas747 wrote:
Qantas16 wrote:
JetGo will launch twice weekly services between OOL and ABX from the 29th of June


Great move for regional Australia. ABX has a good population of 150k to help support this. Their BNE services ex ABX have been quite successful from what I have heard.

Would be interesting to see if JetGo look at partnering with QF or VA in the near future


OOL-ABX service will apparently extend to/from ROK, for a full routing of ROK-OOL-ABX. Announced on the airline's facebook page last night AEST.


Technically the aircraft will route TSV-ROK-OOL-ABX...
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Thu May 18, 2017 12:32 am

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Technically the aircraft will route TSV-ROK-OOL-ABX...


I guessed that, but didn't want to say it based on a 'guess' :)
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Thu May 18, 2017 12:35 am

VA has posted a 69m loss due to fleet simplification, tigerair and other factors... stark contrast to QF

http://www.smh.com.au/business/aviation ... w7dlx.html
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Thu May 18, 2017 12:53 am

Looks like it's "Ansett repeated" for Virgin, although not as bad as Ansett's MkI's situation financially.
Surely Borghetti must be under the pump by now.
 
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Thu May 18, 2017 1:04 am

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VA has posted a 69m loss due to fleet simplification, tigerair and other factors... stark contrast to QF

http://www.smh.com.au/business/aviation ... w7dlx.html


Thanks for posting. on an underlying basis VA posted a $62.3 million loss for the quarter compared to $18.6 million in the same corresponding period the previous year. For the year so far VA is running at a $90.6 million bottom line loss and $20.2 million underlying loss
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Thu May 18, 2017 1:12 am

Pie thrower obviously hasn't learnt his lesson, now accusing Qantas of a new form of flight risk after given a life time ban. In an email sent to the Australian he said

Having rejected the notion CEOs are to assume the role of moral watchdog, the elderly are saying enough is enough,” he said. “Meantime, having determined a new form of flight risk, it seems Qantas are taking what they see as appropriate measures to protect their passengers and employees.”


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/busines ... 0cdb185ba7
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Thu May 18, 2017 1:17 am

qf789 wrote:
qantas747 wrote:
VA has posted a 69m loss due to fleet simplification, tigerair and other factors... stark contrast to QF

http://www.smh.com.au/business/aviation ... w7dlx.html


Thanks for posting. on an underlying basis VA posted a $62.3 million loss for the quarter compared to $18.6 million in the same corresponding period the previous year. For the year so far VA is running at a $90.6 million bottom line loss and $20.2 million underlying loss

During the past 12 months they have also paid down debt and increased cash reserves for a total net of $850 million.
So all combined in theory they actually could have had a $759m profit (which would be in the correct range for an airline it's size half that of Qantas).
I suspect that there are certain tax advantages in play (similar to how QF ran losses when in reality they were profitable just with overvalued assets that were depreciating and dragging the headline figure down).
I do think that it is not a very good look for an airline to be constantly having losses while others around it are making near record profits.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Thu May 18, 2017 1:27 am

Star Alliance says it has little interest of signing VA up as a member

https://www.ausbt.com.au/star-alliance- ... to-join-up
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Thu May 18, 2017 1:32 am

ACCC reverses decision on VA/Alliance charter alliance

Australia’s competition watchdog has reversed a draft decision that would have prevented Virgin Australia Regional Airlines and Queensland-based Alliance Aviation Services establishing a charter alliance.
The alliance will allow the companies to jointly bid against archrival Qantas and Cobham Aviation Services for corporate fly-in fly-out (FIFO) services used by resources companies.  
The two operators also plan to cooperate on various aspects of their FIFO operations such as aircraft maintenance, airport handling, check-in, frequent flyer programs, lounge access, scheduling, pricing, and sales and marketing.


http://www.airlineratings.com/news/1238 ... artnership
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Thu May 18, 2017 1:35 am

Zkpilot wrote:
qf789 wrote:
qantas747 wrote:
VA has posted a 69m loss due to fleet simplification, tigerair and other factors... stark contrast to QF

http://www.smh.com.au/business/aviation ... w7dlx.html


Thanks for posting. on an underlying basis VA posted a $62.3 million loss for the quarter compared to $18.6 million in the same corresponding period the previous year. For the year so far VA is running at a $90.6 million bottom line loss and $20.2 million underlying loss

During the past 12 months they have also paid down debt and increased cash reserves for a total net of $850 million.
So all combined in theory they actually could have had a $759m profit (which would be in the correct range for an airline it's size half that of Qantas).
I suspect that there are certain tax advantages in play (similar to how QF ran losses when in reality they were profitable just with overvalued assets that were depreciating and dragging the headline figure down).
I do think that it is not a very good look for an airline to be constantly having losses while others around it are making near record profits.


Cashflow is different to profit.......... You profit doesn't lower when you pay down debt, it, in fact, increases because of lower interest payments. In other words, their profit would be even lower had they not pay down the debt.

So you might ask, if they are burning cash every day on their normal operations, where did they get the money from to pay down the debt? Remember those new chinese sahreholders? VA received 941 million cash in Dec 2016 alone from issuance of new shares.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Thu May 18, 2017 2:34 am

Air NZ dodged a bullet with this clown show... It really is time for VA to get profitable
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Thu May 18, 2017 9:35 am

Samoan Govt. has terrminated the Virgin Samoa agreement- last flights in OCT/NOV 2017.
 
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Thu May 18, 2017 10:20 am

Zkpilot wrote:
During the past 12 months they have also paid down debt and increased cash reserves for a total net of $850 million.
So all combined in theory they actually could have had a $759m profit (which would be in the correct range for an airline it's size half that of Qantas).


The main reason for the increase in their cash balance was due to them issuing $931m of new equity/shares during the year, some of the proceeds from issuing new shares was used to pay down debt. The issuance of new shares does not have any impact on profit. So not sure how you think they could've ended up with a $759m profit ???
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