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BA 747 Retirement

Mon May 01, 2017 9:07 pm

Good Evening Everyone,

I just checked the latest active BA 747 fleet. It caught my attention whilst doing so that G-BNLZ has been withdrawn. This aircraft first flew for BA in March 1993.
However G-BNLK is still showing as active but is nearly '3' years older as it first flew in May 1990.

I realise cycles and maintenance all play a part in parking up aircraft but 3 years is quite a long time and seems odd to me to retire a newer frame and continue to use an older one ?

Anyone with BA knowledge perhaps able to share some light ?
 
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Re: BA 747 Retirment

Mon May 01, 2017 9:24 pm

As you've suggested, maintenance cycles will have played a role. There are only a handful of BNL* aircraft remaining, three of which are 1990 frames while most of the others were 91-93 that have already retired.

Must have been luck of the draw that the oldee frames had already had a major overhaul when the schedules were drawn up. Better to push an older, overhauled frame for a few extra years than put a newer one through another overhaul instead.

BNLZ, despite being the "youngest" retiree so far, isn't particularly low-hours compared to other frames retired beforehand.
 
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Re: BA 747 Retirement

Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:34 pm

I hear that they plan to keep their 744's, but get rid of them by 2023.

You might want to see this about G-BNLZ. Look it up :tombstone:
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Re: BA 747 Retirement

Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:12 pm

UAL747422 wrote:
I hear that they plan to keep their 744's, but get rid of them by 2023.

You might want to see this about G-BNLZ. Look it up :tombstone:

From what I read on another forum, they plan on keeping 9 of them after 2023.

However in aviation years, thats light years away and of course a lot of other factors such as the economy/fuel prices/over-capacity mean that schedule could change.

Its fair to say however, in a few years it'll be rare sight to spot a BA 747 at LHR.
 
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Re: BA 747 Retirement

Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:36 pm

I wonder if LHR-JFK is going to be among the last 744 routes for BA.
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Re: BA 747 Retirement

Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:29 am

N62NA wrote:
I wonder if LHR-JFK is going to be among the last 744 routes for BA.


One would think that'll be the case. That plane is still a very good fit for that route, particularly with the Super-High-J configuration.
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Re: BA 747 Retirement

Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:15 pm

Its fair to say however, in a few years it'll be rare sight to spot a BA 747 at LHR.[/quote]

I think it will quite some day when that does finally happen.

We've already lost so many 747 operators in recent years (generally speaking) but at LHR in particular. IR JL CX CA MH AI NH TG PK SV QF NZ RB BR KU SA VS SQ Pax versions in the past 10 years but its almost easier to list those that still do send them in now. UA EK(F) CX(F) KE SQ(F) OZ LY BA.... bound to have missed some one.

Will miss her when she's gone and I'm sure when the last BA one leaves it will draw a few crowds too to see her off.
 
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Re: BA 747 Retirement

Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:21 pm

Does anybody remember what the last BA 742 flight was?
 
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Re: BA 747 Retirement

Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:37 pm

n729pa wrote:

I think it will quite some day when that does finally happen.

We've already lost so many 747 operators in recent years (generally speaking) but at LHR in particular. IR JL CX CA MH AI NH TG PK SV QF NZ RB BR KU SA VS SQ Pax versions in the past 10 years but its almost easier to list those that still do send them in now. UA EK(F) CX(F) KE SQ(F) OZ LY BA.... bound to have missed some one.

Will miss her when she's gone and I'm sure when the last BA one leaves it will draw a few crowds too to see her off.


You'll be able the tick UA, OZ and LY off that list in the near future...
 
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Re: BA 747 Retirement

Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:29 pm

FromCDGtoSYD wrote:
n729pa wrote:

I think it will quite some day when that does finally happen.

We've already lost so many 747 operators in recent years (generally speaking) but at LHR in particular. IR JL CX CA MH AI NH TG PK SV QF NZ RB BR KU SA VS SQ Pax versions in the past 10 years but its almost easier to list those that still do send them in now. UA EK(F) CX(F) KE SQ(F) OZ LY BA.... bound to have missed some one.

Will miss her when she's gone and I'm sure when the last BA one leaves it will draw a few crowds too to see her off.


You'll be able the tick UA, OZ and LY off that list in the near future...

In Europe, only BA and LH will be operating 747's in the 2020's
 
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Re: BA 747 Retirement

Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:42 pm

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Re: BA 747 Retirement

Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:41 am

BA's final 747-200 flight was on October 8th 2001 when G-BDXO operated BA 138 from Mumbai.
 
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Re: BA 747 Retirement

Sun Aug 06, 2017 1:02 pm

It's really notable (for all airlines) how few 747s can now be seen flying over London now, indeed A380s are far more common
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Re: BA 747 Retirement

Sun Aug 06, 2017 5:13 pm

Will LHR-ORD be operated by a 747 in April 2017?
 
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Re: BA 747 Retirement

Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:25 pm

cc47 wrote:
Will LHR-ORD be operated by a 747 in April 2017?


If you mean 2018, ita Partly A380 if rumors are to be believed....
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Re: BA 747 Retirement

Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:47 pm

G-BNLZ was parked up and deregistered in June 2015. At the end of 2014, it had almost 95000 hours flown.
G-BNLK had 115000 hours flown in May this year (figures are from the CAA's website, http://publicapps.caa.co.uk/modalapplic ... ageindex=1)
So reading between the lines, BNLZ was probably due some major check in 2015, which wasn't economical to perform, while BNLK had likely already had said check in, say, 2013 prior to the global financial slow down made it uneconomical.
 
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Re: BA 747 Retirement

Mon Aug 07, 2017 12:44 pm

Arion640 wrote:
cc47 wrote:
Will LHR-ORD be operated by a 747 in April 2017?


If you mean 2018, ita Partly A380 if rumors are to be believed....


Yeah I meant 2018, I'm thinking of doing a trip to somewhere where I can guarantee a BA 747, anyone have any ideas of destinations?
 
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Re: BA 747 Retirement

Mon Aug 07, 2017 12:50 pm

cc47 wrote:
Arion640 wrote:
cc47 wrote:
Will LHR-ORD be operated by a 747 in April 2017?


If you mean 2018, ita Partly A380 if rumors are to be believed....


Yeah I meant 2018, I'm thinking of doing a trip to somewhere where I can guarantee a BA 747, anyone have any ideas of destinations?


LHR-TLV if you want somewhere closer this Winter.
 
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Re: BA 747 Retirement

Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:26 pm

OA260 wrote:
cc47 wrote:
Arion640 wrote:

If you mean 2018, ita Partly A380 if rumors are to be believed....


Yeah I meant 2018, I'm thinking of doing a trip to somewhere where I can guarantee a BA 747, anyone have any ideas of destinations?


LHR-TLV if you want somewhere closer this Winter.


TLV could be a good option, but would there be any chance of it being downsized to an A321? If the aircraft was gonna downsize, I'd rather have it downsize to a 777 or similar.
 
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Re: BA 747 Retirement

Mon Aug 07, 2017 6:56 pm

Will the MIA-LHR route be A380 year round after the retirement?
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Re: BA 747 Retirement

Mon Aug 07, 2017 9:01 pm

cc47 wrote:
Arion640 wrote:
cc47 wrote:
Will LHR-ORD be operated by a 747 in April 2017?


If you mean 2018, ita Partly A380 if rumors are to be believed....


Yeah I meant 2018, I'm thinking of doing a trip to somewhere where I can guarantee a BA 747, anyone have any ideas of destinations?


New York JFK, BA run something like 5 747's a day to there.
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Re: BA 747 Retirement

Mon Aug 07, 2017 9:25 pm

cc47 wrote:
Arion640 wrote:
cc47 wrote:
Will LHR-ORD be operated by a 747 in April 2017?


If you mean 2018, ita Partly A380 if rumors are to be believed....


Yeah I meant 2018, I'm thinking of doing a trip to somewhere where I can guarantee a BA 747, anyone have any ideas of destinations?

LAS
 
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Re: BA 747 Retirement

Mon Aug 07, 2017 9:43 pm

Am I the only one who thinks the 747-200 in the Union Jack was a hottie?

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Re: BA 747 Retirement

Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:26 pm

Arion640 wrote:
cc47 wrote:
Arion640 wrote:

If you mean 2018, ita Partly A380 if rumors are to be believed....


Yeah I meant 2018, I'm thinking of doing a trip to somewhere where I can guarantee a BA 747, anyone have any ideas of destinations?


New York JFK, BA run something like 5 747's a day to there.


Thanks
 
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Re: BA 747 Retirement

Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:02 am

Boeing778X wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks the 747-200 in the Union Jack was a hottie?

Not as much as a Landor 744!
 
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Re: BA 747 Retirement

Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:05 am

G-BDXB looked AMAZING in Chatham colours, always snatched a pic the few times I saw it.
 
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Re: BA 747 Retirement

Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:34 am

Geminijets101 wrote:
Will the MIA-LHR route be A380 year round after the retirement?


Only if BA get more A380's, they have 12 so year round Miami would mean another route losing the A380.
 
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Re: BA 747 Retirement

Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:14 am

LH707330 wrote:
Boeing778X wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks the 747-200 in the Union Jack was a hottie?

Not as much as a Landor 744!


Okay, fine, I concede that one ;)

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