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Why Does Japan Have So Many Dom. 747s?

Sun Feb 17, 2002 6:09 am

They aren't such a big country that air travel is necessay, and they have a big bullet train market.
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RE: Why Does Japan Have So Many Dom. 747s?

Sun Feb 17, 2002 6:11 am

So many rushed people Big grin
 
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RE: Why Does Japan Have So Many Dom. 747s?

Sun Feb 17, 2002 6:49 am

"They aren't such a big country that air travel is necessay"........!!!!! Since when did the size of a country soley determine the amount of air traffic?!!
 
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RE: Why Does Japan Have So Many Dom. 747s?

Sun Feb 17, 2002 7:20 am

Very ltd runway capacity and a high-income high-density population very dependent on air travel.

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RE: Why Does Japan Have So Many Dom. 747s?

Sun Feb 17, 2002 7:21 am

Well actually Japan is made up of quite a few islands, so air travel makes a lot of sense. The airline system is well developped, so on major routes they have quite a selection of flights. Also, air travel is cheaper (yes, that's right) that taking the train. I often fly between Tokyo and Osaka and the train costs about 20% more for the same travelling time (door-to-door), but more boredom and a tighter seat. I always fly and generally those 747's are pretty packed.
 
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RE: Why Does Japan Have So Many Dom. 747s?

Sun Feb 17, 2002 1:20 pm

I dont see why they need all those domestic aircraft though. |
JAL has a fleet of 747-400Ds, as well as some older -100SR, and -300D aircraft, its a sizeable fleet. Why so many????
It does seem nes. to have an air system in place, but with that number of aircaft???
Doesnt seem right to me, there cant be that many places to warrant a 74D, can there?????
 
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RE: Why Does Japan Have So Many Dom. 747s?

Sun Feb 17, 2002 2:33 pm

They have so many in order to deliver the frequency the business travellers need. Where the US might have 500 people flying a route over the course of a day, Japan has 500 people flying on each flight, so Japan flys full 747s, rather than 737s or MD80s.
 
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RE: Why Does Japan Have So Many Dom. 747s?

Sun Feb 17, 2002 3:18 pm

You can choose to ride bullet train for 12 hours or domestic 747 just for 2 hours between Tokyo and Sapporo. And more, air fare is not that expensive!! Between Tokyo and Osaka, airplane is the cheapest way (Y7000) if you buy ticket 2 months earlier. By bullet train it costs Y13500 around.
 
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RE: Why Does Japan Have So Many Dom. 747s?

Sun Feb 17, 2002 4:01 pm

Most people in Japan are middle class so most of them can afford air travel. Their 747Ds have only Economy and are packed, 500 seats! Smile
 
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RE: Why Does Japan Have So Many Dom. 747s?

Sun Feb 17, 2002 5:14 pm

Very simple answer: there is enough demand for all those domestic 747's! Japan is not so small when you talk about population they have 100+ million people packed in those islands.
 
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RE: Why Does Japan Have So Many Dom. 747s?

Sun Feb 17, 2002 6:41 pm

1. More passanegers arise because there supplies more seats. At the same time more seats are supplied because more passangers arise.
2. Tokyo centered governization;In the business Japanese make it habit to make face-to-face comunications, in-house, or with customer, or with the Beurau rather than to make it through telephone, fax, e-mail. The substantial negociation is made at night facing each other in a invitation party in a peculiar style.
This makes business demand in air trip very high.
3. Tokyo centered population; 60% of the Natinal population is concentrated in Tokyo and about 70-80% population of Tokyo residents have come from districts all over Japan in this 40 years. They go back to their homes intensively at summer and New Year, It's called homecoming rushes. This makes families seasonal demand very high(Please remember JAL B747 crash on 12 Aug 1985 with fatal of 520 people aboard. The summuer rush make things the worst.)
4. Airliners prepare aircrafts to fullfill almost the demand in the busiest season. (So in the most vacant season I have found only 10% seats are occupied at the cabin. In order to overcome less income in that season airliners have campain of selling 7000 JPY seats for any domestic destination(JAL) or 10000JPY (ANA) or of price cut in half around passanger's birthday weeks(JAS) or setting special prices for flights early in the morning and late at night.)


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