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Chicago Aviation Announcement

Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:58 am

There will be an announcement in Chicago regarding Aviation the week of June 19.

Leading topics:

Infrastructure investment (ORD), more details
DL ORD-SEA starts
WN schedule extension (new seasonal routes)
UA ORD-GUA in winter (after AA in summer)
AA ORD-HNL in winter
SQ to replace UA with ORD-HKG-SIN midnight flight
AV ORD-BOG
DY announces ORD-LGW/OSL/BCN
Nothing: Just a DOT race around the airport, starting at the Tri-State toll plaza.
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Sun Jun 11, 2017 3:09 am

Source on some of this?
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Sun Jun 11, 2017 4:11 am

I hope it is something significant. AV to BOG would make the most sense out of all of those IMO.
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Sun Jun 11, 2017 4:12 am

It might just be that an Alderman's nephew and his company are taking over the ORD and MDW parking garages and lots.
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Sun Jun 11, 2017 4:31 am

It could be about some issue that has been on the back burner for years. Possibilities include the building of the long-proposed South Suburban Airport at Peotone; the resumption of scheduled commercial jet service to the Gary/Chicago International Airport; or, the rebuilding and reopening of Meigs Field.
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Sun Jun 11, 2017 4:34 am

SkyVoice wrote:
the rebuilding and reopening of Meigs Field.


That is absolutely, positively, 100%, never going to happen.
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Sun Jun 11, 2017 5:00 am

KFLLCFII wrote:
SkyVoice wrote:
the rebuilding and reopening of Meigs Field.


That is absolutely, positively, 100%, never going to happen.


As much as I would like to believe that it might reopen, I have lost hope that it will.
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Sun Jun 11, 2017 5:07 am

Peotone is a joke...everybody knows that except a few misguided politicians...which Illinois has quite a few of...
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Sun Jun 11, 2017 12:27 pm

Norwegian going to ORD.
my post are my opinion only and not those of southwest airlines and or airtran airlines.
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Sun Jun 11, 2017 12:44 pm

Wonder if it could have something to do with lease agreements with UA and AA. I thought negotiations had started some time ago.
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:24 pm

About a year ago, there was a major news conference announcing ORD redevelopment. Expectations are that T2 will be rebuilt, separate customs for UA and AA added, a new T4 or 6 added for other domestic operations ( T4 numbering may remain dormant), and remodeling of T1 and T3. There may be some expansion of T1 and 3, but doubtful they'll be replaced with new terminals.
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:27 pm

Will Frontier be announcing new nonstop service from ORD to DFW? Frontier has in recent years added nonstop service out of ORD to destinations other than its home base at DEN, and DFW is one of the largest markets out of ORD that Frontier does not currently serve nonstop out of ORD. There are still fewer daily nonstop flights between Dallas and Chicago today than was the case 14 years ago, even with Southwest adding 7 daily nonstop flights between DAL and MDW after the repeal of the Wright Amendment.
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:42 pm

EK to start A380?
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:31 pm

Could this be the one of the design options for the new ORD?

https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus ... ohare1.jpg


(How tf do you add pictures to these things it's so confusing)
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:53 am

That's generally thought to be the most likely scenario and some of it already being implemented for T3 and T5. The L concourse extension at T-3, however, looks like a questionable decision. These new AA gates (for Eagle) look like they're going to be too isolated and difficult for connections.
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Mon Jun 12, 2017 2:53 am

It will take less than 10 minutes to walk from the L extension to the H/K concourse. I don't see what the big deal is.
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Mon Jun 12, 2017 2:58 am

O'Hare International Airport will be renamed Barack H. Obama International Airport.
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:02 am

Dance troop performance in the international terminal?.... sorry, someone had too.

My bet is on Norwegian or a closure of all direct car traffic to the airport to make ORD the first car-free airport in the world.
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:17 am

hz747300 wrote:
Dance troop performance in the international terminal?.... sorry, someone had too.


I was thinking more like a 5K.
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:15 am

NZ have been rumoured to launch ORD. But perhaps a bit soon, although with IAH become 789 with the new deliveries it would free up two 772- maybe thrice weekly?
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:16 am

planespotter20 wrote:
Could this be the one of the design options for the new ORD?

https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus ... ohare1.jpg


(How tf do you add pictures to these things it's so confusing)

You use the img tags (which you can either type, or generate from the buttons above the posting box, it's the one that looks like a rectangle with two triangles, or maybe a mountain, in it):

[img]https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/7842309/ohare1.jpg[/img]

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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:55 am

I'm guessing it's an announcement regarding the lease agreements with all the airlines to take effect next year.
DL moves to T3 concourse K
UA takes over all of T2, as well as T3 concourses G and H
AA downsizes to cornerstone markets needing only their 5 new regional gates in L
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:25 am

This is O'Hare. They won't make a big deal about an upcoming announcement unless it's a pretty big news event and that would more than likely be terminal expansion or major gate reassignments. A new route or a new carrier is hardly confetti and balloon-worthy in Chicago.
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:10 am

smi0006 wrote:
NZ have been rumoured to launch ORD. But perhaps a bit soon, although with IAH become 789 with the new deliveries it would free up two 772- maybe thrice weekly?


I think the 789 would perform better here, maybe late 2018, maybe 5 weekly to start.
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:18 am

jetblastdubai wrote:
This is O'Hare. They won't make a big deal about an upcoming announcement unless it's a pretty big news event and that would more than likely be terminal expansion or major gate reassignments. A new route or a new carrier is hardly confetti and balloon-worthy in Chicago.


I never thought about that, but it actually is the most legit explanation. Imagine if LAX held a press conference every time they launched new service...
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:10 am

My guess is the announcement of regular A380 service operated by EK starting in September or October.
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:38 am

drdisque wrote:
It will take less than 10 minutes to walk from the L extension to the H/K concourse. I don't see what the big deal is.


The big deal is not the walk to the start of the H/K concourse, but to other gates such as K20, H18 or G20. Still the L concourse extension is a relatively modest investment for AA, and it will be interesting to see how it will be integrated, if at all, with other T3 improvements.
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:41 pm

I am guessing that this is something major if they are planning an announcement so far out... hopefully it is the long awaited terminal expansion/reconfiguration plan and UA and AA's agreement to that.
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:48 pm

hz747300 wrote:
Dance troop performance in the international terminal?.... sorry, someone had too.

My bet is on Norwegian or a closure of all direct car traffic to the airport to make ORD the first car-free airport in the world.


I just snorted aloud.

Even ten years later, this still remains one of the best inside jokes on the airline interwebs....I'm so amused by the fact that as many people knew of how hyped up that news announcement was made by the media before we learned about what the, "real" story was...
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:54 pm

AA ORD-HNL......they've been trying to make that route work off and on for years now.
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:42 pm

777PHX wrote:
AA ORD-HNL......they've been trying to make that route work off and on for years now.

You can say that for almost every int'l route by American out of ORD as well...

I'd love to see Singapore back at ORD, an A380 from one carrier, or even new service from Air New Zealand or Norwegian. But these don't seem "big-enough" to justify such an event.
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:45 am

Probably just the routine contract announcements at ORD.
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:51 am

KTPAFlyer wrote:
jetblastdubai wrote:
This is O'Hare. They won't make a big deal about an upcoming announcement unless it's a pretty big news event and that would more than likely be terminal expansion or major gate reassignments. A new route or a new carrier is hardly confetti and balloon-worthy in Chicago.


I never thought about that, but it actually is the most legit explanation. Imagine if LAX held a press conference every time they launched new service...


That was my thought, too. My guess would be lease agreements coupled with facility expansion/improvements.

The only flight announcement I could see being big enough would be Norwegian if it announced non-stops to several European cities (i.e., LGW, CDG, CPH, OSL maybe BCN, FCO). We can pretty much rule out everyone's ORD-XXX on ABC airline unless its big.
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:18 am

planespotter20 wrote:
Could this be the one of the design options for the new ORD?

https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus ... ohare1.jpg


By the time you build all that, why not just start with building a new terminal on the west end with new concourses laid out like ATL and DEN as you move east?
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:52 am

Let's get real....The city rarely does new service or small gate change/facility change announcements. Unless this is some sort of major renovation project at ORD (one has already been announced and is starting to be implemented at MDW), I vote this is trolling.

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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:02 am

IrishAyes wrote:
hz747300 wrote:
Dance troop performance in the international terminal?.... sorry, someone had too.

My bet is on Norwegian or a closure of all direct car traffic to the airport to make ORD the first car-free airport in the world.


I just snorted aloud.

Even ten years later, this still remains one of the best inside jokes on the airline interwebs....I'm so amused by the fact that as many people knew of how hyped up that news announcement was made by the media before we learned about what the, "real" story was...


I don't want to be that guy, but can someone explain this joke, I actually have never heard of this particular one before. :duck:
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:03 pm

Lufthansa going from 7 weekly to 10 weekly from ORD to MUC
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:55 am

And UA increasing ORD-OGG to 5x weekly. Kirby is making a difference already.
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:38 pm

Taco2sDay wrote:
And UA increasing ORD-OGG to 5x weekly. Kirby is making a difference already.


This is good to see and hopefully it will bring fares down. Usually. Alaska is significantly cheaper than United going to the secondary islands.

I believe ORD had KOA service at one point on United through either OGG or HNL on a United 777? I can't seem to find it anywhere, but maybe somebody on here remembers.
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:00 pm

Anybody, know when this announcement is supposed to take place? I haven't seen anything at all even mentioning a press release.
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:34 pm

AMollenhauer9 wrote:
Taco2sDay wrote:
And UA increasing ORD-OGG to 5x weekly. Kirby is making a difference already.


This is good to see and hopefully it will bring fares down. Usually. Alaska is significantly cheaper than United going to the secondary islands.

I believe ORD had KOA service at one point on United through either OGG or HNL on a United 777? I can't seem to find it anywhere, but maybe somebody on here remembers.


From 2006 or so to 2009 or 10. The was an ORD-OGG-KOA-ORD triangle route. It was flown because UA's de-rated Hawaii-configured 777's couldn't takeoff from OGG with a full payload to make it back to ORD. After the merger and all the 777's were given paper upgrades to the top allowable by their engine mfrs, the route was doable nonstop from OGG (OGG may have also done a small runway extension as well) and the KOA stop was dropped. The route did carry a sizable number of KOA-bound passengers, but obviously not enough to justify its own flight when nonstop OGG-ORD became possible.
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:57 pm

It appears the "big announcement" is an airside shuttle service from T5 to the main terminal area for AA passengers, which removes the need for rescreening.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20170619/NEWS10/170619891/ohare-american-turn-to-bus-to-give-international-fliers-a-lift
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:42 pm

mantistobogn wrote:
It appears the "big announcement" is an airside shuttle service from T5 to the main terminal area for AA passengers, which removes the need for rescreening.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20170619/NEWS10/170619891/ohare-american-turn-to-bus-to-give-international-fliers-a-lift


What a joke.
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:52 pm

jetblastdubai wrote:
This is O'Hare. They won't make a big deal about an upcoming announcement unless it's a pretty big news event


I would like a "do over".

The fact that T1 didn't get the same service is baffling.
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:03 pm

jetblastdubai wrote:
jetblastdubai wrote:
This is O'Hare. They won't make a big deal about an upcoming announcement unless it's a pretty big news event


I would like a "do over".

The fact that T1 didn't get the same service is baffling.


Not baffling at all for a couple of related reasons. The service is (or has been) "user pays," so to this point Oneworld has paid and Star has not. That might seem like laziness or penny pinching on UA's part, but it is also important to remember that UA's three closest Star partners (AC, LH, NH) already use gates in the domestic complex.
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:06 pm

The bus shuttle isn't as big an announcement as I would have hoped but it is a huge "upgrade" for codeshare and interline connections. I wonder if they will be checking boarding passes before one boards. It would be a great way to check out the T5 food and beverage options. I doubt they will let you take the shuttle back to T3.
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:12 pm

LoftleidirDC8 wrote:
The bus shuttle isn't as big an announcement as I would have hoped but it is a huge "upgrade" for codeshare and interline connections. I wonder if they will be checking boarding passes before one boards. It would be a great way to check out the T5 food and beverage options. I doubt they will let you take the shuttle back to T3.


I woukd assume so. Otherwise, if aviation geeks like you and I, traveled to the Intl. terminal without an intl. flight, our only way out of the terminal would be to go through US customs. If we were flying domestically, which we would be in this case, I think we would be in quite the predicament with CBP, especially since domestically, I would not be carrying my passport.
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:18 pm

Nice development but nothing near what I was hoping... an airside train connector would have been real news...
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:30 pm

Cubsrule wrote:
but it is also important to remember that UA's three closest Star partners (AC, LH, NH) already use gates in the domestic complex.


"Currently, passengers leave the secured area of the terminal, where the gates are, to get on a tram to travel to Terminal 5. Once they leave the secured area, passengers have to be re-screened.

Connecting flights are a big part of the traffic at O'Hare, the nation's second-busiest airport. About 2,000 passengers connect from domestic flights in terminals 1, 2, and 3 to international flights through Terminal 5 each day"

After reading the article much closer, I realize that the bus service is for outbound Int'l travelers only and not for T5 arrivals to the domestic terminals. You're right, this would add far less value to UA as a vast majority of the Star customers already depart from T1. If LH ever brings the A380 into ORD, then it might be something to consider as it will not fit in T1.
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Re: Chicago Aviation Announcement

Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:47 pm

mantistobogn wrote:
It appears the "big announcement" is an airside shuttle service from T5 to the main terminal area for AA passengers, which removes the need for rescreening.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20170619/NEWS10/170619891/ohare-american-turn-to-bus-to-give-international-fliers-a-lift


Awesome! Any word on where it will be leaving from within T3?
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