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Worst Landing In A Plane

Tue Feb 19, 2002 10:57 am

My worsta land was as a passenger on a El Al 747, from LAX to Tel Aviv, Nonstop. When we reach Tel Aviv the Pilot was too high and too fast and had to go around. The second time, he was too low and gased it to about take off power. We landed fist with our left main wheels and then the plane banked to the left, due to the plane being way off of centerline. Finally we made it through the bumpest land I have ever been on. My first time I landed a 172 wasn't as bad as this was.

Everybody applauded when we came to a stop, more out of happiness from making it through the landing.

One more note, there was no wind involved.


RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Tue Feb 19, 2002 11:04 am

I think the passengers on board this plane found the landing pretty bad!!

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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Tue Feb 19, 2002 11:07 am

On more note:

I realize there were crosswinds in the picture above, but I just can't help but wonder what was going through the minds of the people on that flight.
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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Tue Feb 19, 2002 11:09 am

This past Thursday, I was on an ATA 752 EWR-MDW. The airline is bad enough as it is (that's another story), but the pilot slams down into MDW (understandably with the relatively short runways) and 2 of the ceiling panels over the main exits fall off. I was sitting in the exit row and it was right in front of me. Even the FA's were like "WTF?"

Nothing got broken and everyone walked away... but it was interesting.
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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Tue Feb 19, 2002 11:11 am

There is an old pilot's adage (maybe some can get the correct wording).

A good landing is one you can walk away from.
A great landing is one where you can use the plane again.
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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Tue Feb 19, 2002 11:14 am

My worst landing must have been on a Comair EMB-120 A week ago on a flight from MCO-FLL. The plane as soon as we landed started zigzagging on the runway, it definitely felt etremely weird.
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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Tue Feb 19, 2002 11:22 am

that is what i was going to say.

My worst would be WEA 734 from WAW to Alicante. We landed twice!! No wind involved either.

KLM 744 from AMS-JFK was bad too this one was in havy wind/rain. Two go arounds on this one.
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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Tue Feb 19, 2002 11:37 am

I'd like to see any of you guys do it better  Big thumbs up
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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Tue Feb 19, 2002 12:32 pm

As opposed, perhaps, to a landing outside an airplane?
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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Tue Feb 19, 2002 1:53 pm

Markair in I believe '91. I was 6th grade on a school trip to Anchorage. We were on a 732 landing in Sitka (6500' runway) and we seemed to be approaching a bit high then when we finally touched down, what seemed like halfway down the runway, the brakes were slammed on and full reverse was used while the overheads flew open...
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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Tue Feb 19, 2002 2:52 pm

Today I landed on a 3,600 ft runway.... was tight in the pattern because I screwed up the entry. Turning base, I was high and 15 knots fast. I said "I'm going around" and the instructor said "Nah... put the flaps down and enter a foward slip" I was like "Your crazy, but OK" so I dropped full flaps, put down about half way down, and stood on the brakes... We stopped about 5 ft from the end of the runway (probably because I added power for a go-around about 3/4ths the way down the runway, and the instructor pulled it back... that's the worst landing i've ever been in... the landing itself was a greaser, but it was the rollout/stop that made it bad. Durring the de-brief (this was my first x-country) the instructor said that the choice to go around was correct, and that he probably should have let me do it when we touched down... (I called "inbound for touch and go" on CTAF... I was prepped to do a touch and go, the instructor wanted full stop) I guess this was one of his lessons on what not to do (like the lesson in 35 knot winds (straight down the runway, but 35 knots none the less)).
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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Tue Feb 19, 2002 2:56 pm

Piedmont Airlines 727 landing in Tampa. Strong cross wind just before touch down. The right wing dipped down and was close enough to the runway that I closed my eyes waiting for the crash. Then the plane jerked hard left and bang we bounced down three different times. Piedmont was a great airline, but they just loved to haul ass on approach.

Second worst was on a Delta 757 landing at RDU. I was in the back. He flared way to late, I saw it coming when I saw the runway quickly getting closer. I thought to myself, oh man this is gonna hurt,and wow was I right. We hit very hard. A few bins popped open. Then full brakes and full reverse. He hit the brakes so hard that I thought, well maybe there is something on the runway like a dear or something because we zig-zagged the whole way. We he pulled off the runway I figured it out. There was no more runway left.

I look back at both of them as a bad landings, but also great saves.
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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Tue Feb 19, 2002 2:56 pm

I watched a lifeflight B-212 land yesterday, it came in way too fast and bounced about 8 feet in the air the first time. I think it cracked a strut and that was about it. I also saw a C-210 come in one day without its gear down, talked to the pilot later and he said he "forgot".
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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Tue Feb 19, 2002 3:45 pm

It doesn't exist a "worst landing" Big grin.
It allways gives me a push if I have such a worst landing. But it is a personal question.

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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Tue Feb 19, 2002 4:55 pm

all landings are good. The worst landings are ones that dont happen  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Tue Feb 19, 2002 5:14 pm

Air Malta A320. Night, heavy rain, heavy crosswind. The plane came in very fast, and then
touched down i felt the plane skipping 1 or 2 seconds over the runway, then the wheels
started to take the runway. I was pretty scared. Deplaning i saw the pilots laughing. I suppose
they like such landings.

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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Tue Feb 19, 2002 5:19 pm

Let's call them "bad landings" then. I like how BDrules described them.
My worst experience: AMS KM B733 13Dec01 at night. We landed so hard that on of the aft galley panels came crashing down to the ground. The capt even decided to get the plane inspected. Fortunately no further damage done. I was on the forward jumpseat and after the impact I was so disoriented that I could not tell whether we were firmly on the ground or airborne again. So I was expecting the second bump. Then I heard the reversers and thanked God for a safe one.
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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Tue Feb 19, 2002 9:09 pm

Well I had a bad landing and another, which really was excellent under the conditions the pilot was put through but it was sure scary for the passengers.

The first was on SIA A-340 coming in from Perth (9V-SJC). We were pretty low when we flew over the airport for the landing but somehow, we touched down halfway down runway 20L. The bang (yes it was a bang) was so distinctly felt, though no overhead bins opened, that some of the F/As actually gasped especially the one sitting right in front of me. Full brakes and full reverse that our tires were smoking when we parked at gate F59.

The second was on SIA B-777 going into Perth (9V-SRC). Everything looked normal until descending through 3,000ft and then we knew what was happening. All that happened to Tsentsan when he flew in a couple of days ago happened to us. The crosswinds were so strong the plane was rocking left and right. From the way the wing flapped up and down we could tell that the pilot was having trouble putting the plane down as once we were descending, the winds seemed to bring us down a little fast. But once he pulled up, we were climbing again. And then of course, he had to also concentrate on the lateral alignment of the plane with the runway so boy, must have been hell of a job for him. The actual touchdown was very smooth (nothing felt at all). My sister and everybody on the plane were so scared including the F/A, who later commented that she had NEVER experienced anything like that before on her 3 years of flying and that she was constantly looking out of the window to see if the plane was too low or too high or if it was close to hitting anything.
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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Tue Feb 19, 2002 9:14 pm

Landing over the dike at Adak Alaska with a 45Kt tailwing in a 727....
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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Tue Feb 19, 2002 9:55 pm

i was in a fokker 50 comming into canberra airport, australia.

the capt put it down hard and the brakes locked on the right wheel, cos it was a fokker50 i could see the wheel burst and sparks flying out all over the place, next out came the firetrucks etc and we were made to stop out of the apron. the capt then walked down and had a look out my window at the gear.

scary but exciting, you know what they say about flying, "hours of bordem interupted by seconds of shear terror"

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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Tue Feb 19, 2002 10:25 pm

for me, bad landings, if finish, become funny Big grin

in one of my first flights, in turkish B734 we landed in Istambul with very heavy crosswind, and I saw the plane going left and right, the wings flexing, very near was funny, the crew did a very good job. (the FO was a Female)  Love
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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Wed Feb 20, 2002 1:03 am

Rain, snow, crosswinds... I love it.

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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Wed Feb 20, 2002 1:44 am

With one exception, any of my landings in a Piper Twin Comanche. That aircraft deserves its bad reputation on landing. If you're fast it'll settle into ground effect and never go down.
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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Wed Feb 20, 2002 2:34 am

United Boeing 727 from Denver to Calgary. We were landing in YYC at night during a heaving storm. The plane shot out of the clouds so fast, had no idea of how low we were (less than 15 seconds from touch down). The plane landed so hard, the lights in the cabin went out for a second. We eventually skidded to the very end of the runway, with rull thrust reversers being applied.

I found out that this stuff happens all time. Sure glad YYC isnt a regular destination for me.
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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Wed Feb 20, 2002 4:29 am

Once coming into AMS in a 734 we had some really nasty winds..the plane was bouncing all over the place...we were bouncing around so much on aproach I was sure it was going to slam us...and It did...really hard...a bunch of overhead bins popped open and stuff fell out...Pilots did a commendable job of getting it down in one piece, though
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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Wed Feb 20, 2002 4:34 am

The worst landing I have ever had was back in November of 2001 on a United 737-500 from DEN to MSP. The winds were calm (as reported from the tower), but the approach that we had was never very stable. We touched down on runways 12R almost halfway down. Taxiied off on the last taxiway of that runway. I will never forget that approach would think that it was really windy....but the weather was almost perfect!
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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Wed Feb 20, 2002 5:43 am

Well the worst ones I had flown were my second and third solo on a ASK 13 glider. I flared much to high and the touch downs were terrible bumps!
Landing in a glider with strong headwinds is challanging too. If the wind is very strong your ground speed comes down to walking speed. No landing roll at all...

Strong crosswinds often make for interesting landings. The smaller the plane is, the more interesting it gets.

But good luck. I never had a very bad landing, with people or the plane getting damaged.

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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Wed Feb 20, 2002 5:44 am

After the huge storm in Europe, in December 1999, My family and I were returning to CDG from AMS on a KLM 737-400, the plane did one G-O and the second attempt, the plane hit the ground so hard it felt as if the wheels had popped and the landing gear struts had broke, the landing was way off centerline as well, it was pretty intense!
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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Wed Feb 20, 2002 5:49 am

I never really had any bad landings of my own when I was a glider pilot, even when landing in the wrong field it was still a good landing  Smile

My worst commercial landing was Feb 2001 on Air Canada 767-200ER C-GDSP at YYZ. There was a heavy crosswind and the left gear touched down very hard, the aircraft bounced up and then came down hard again on the left gear.
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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Wed Feb 20, 2002 5:54 am

My worst landing on a flight was on an AirTran flight from MSY to ATL about two years ago. Myself and a coworker and one of his friends had gone there for a daytrip. We're coming in for a landing and I look over and see that we're a little high for the landing (being a ramper and a frequent flier at that time, so I knew where about on the runway we should have landed at), and then the pilot pancaked the plane onto the runway. We landed long, and the whole time my friend and I looked at each other, not even saying a word, but were thinking the same thing: "We're going to die! Go around, go around!" After we got off, we both said we were thinking those words. Second place goes to a flight I took on a Comair Emb-120 about a year and a half ago. We're lined up for landing, and once the gear's are down, we start to fishtail ever so slightly until we land.
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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Wed Feb 20, 2002 7:43 am

The worst and favorite landings I have ever enjoyed were strong cross wind landings- As a teenager, I got the front right seat on a Navaho into Nassau- We took a crosswind runway to beat traffic and what a ride! We must have been near max cross wind, the conversion was not smooth and the stall buzzer was blazing the last 10 feet down as we slammed into the runway through an over killed flair- As an aviation buff, I loved every second, but my family in the back were petrified.

My second favorite was a couple of years ago on Midway F100 from RDU to BOS- Once again, it looks like we took the route to the front of the line with a heavy crosswind, and it was absolutely fantastic- The windward wing kept rising, and the pilot kept dumping it and I was having a ball- I felt a tap on my shoulder and one of my associates who doesn't like flying as much as I do wanted to know if we were about to crash Smile I told him what was going on and that this was SOP for a strong cross wind- He remained green all the way down, and visibility was so low that I could first see the runway when we touched down.

I know that these landings were straightforward for those in the front seats, but for a wanna be that has never had the yoke in anything close to max cross winds, these were great learning experiences.
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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Wed Feb 20, 2002 8:03 am

My best landing (seriously) was me bringing a Cessna 172 into MSP, my first REAL ATC EXPERIENCE EVER!! Unfortunatly, there weren't a lot of planes there, but I can say I landed a plane a few minutes before a 757 did! It was the best because the plane is small, and the touchdown sound was nothing compared to when I've landed (as a passenger) in 747s and A340s!!

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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Wed Feb 20, 2002 8:14 am

A certain British carrier into Kai Tak in '89 on a 747-200. No particular reason, the weather was fine. But it was very heavy - all the oxygen masks came down over the wing section of seats and even I with my vast bulk of "emergency food", as I like to call my midriff, bounced up and down in my seat.

But really that was nothing compared to TransAsia Airways on an ATR72 into Taipei Sungshan at night from Hualien during a storm. I should have known it was going to be rough when the Taiwanese captain told us to expect bad turbulence, normally they never bothered with such trivialities.
That time, I was very uncomfortable as the overhead bins came open on finals, handbaggage started falling out (I now make a extra point of stashing my own very carefully) and the noises from the galley suggested the cabin crew had decided to smash everything up. I looked behind and the crew member looked like she was going to throw up. It's funny to me, but I wasn't frightened as such, rather I was more p*ssed off with myself for taking this particular flight. I remember thinking something like "I do not believe this, what am I doing here, just get us down in one piece and don't mess this up".
Bouncing down and taxing in, a much relieved Standby87 found his palms covered in sweat. But I am pleased to report that no change of underwear was needed.

RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Wed Feb 20, 2002 9:07 am

Ansett B767-277, at Melbourne Victoria in January 1997. Not that it was a bad landing, quite smooth until touchdown {do 767s hit so hard?} but then the spoilers came up and reverse kicked mum sitting next to me saw the spectacle of the spoilers and started to mutter and panic that the wing was falling it was quite entertaining, good thing she didn't try to evacuate... Laugh out loud  Big thumbs up

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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Wed Feb 20, 2002 11:32 am

I have never had a particularly hairy landin, nothing as extreme as panels falling from the aircraft.
But i have eperienced a few which for a second shook people up on the flight.
First was a DC-10-30 flight Honolulu to SFO. Approached in a storm, not too heavy, and the plane was shaking as they do, and as we touched down it was a fairly harsh landing, and the whole aircraft was rattling and vibrating a lot. It wasnt that bad, the virbrations were nothing too extraordinary.
The nest was bmi to Milan Malpensa, our 733 was approachiong and i assume we hit a cross wind or some wake and the plane tipped quite quickly to one side, about 7 degrees to the right. it was corrected quickly and all was well.
The final one was probably the harshest landing i have ever witnessed myself. The return leg of that same bmi trip, the 733 approaching LHR, and we were slowly descending to the runway, and as we got over the threshold we appeared to float above, and then the plane must have dropped the last few feet quickly and we hit the runway with some force, it got most of the passangers shook up for a few seconds.

I have never had a landing or approach that has been bad enough to warrant a go around...

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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Wed Feb 20, 2002 1:00 pm

No trike driver knows bad landings.... my first wheel landing in the Citabria was a humbling event. You know that diagram of negative dynamic stability? The sine wave with greater and greater ocillations? That was me. Bouncy bouncy bouncy bouncy go around! The next attempt was similar, left main bounce, bounce, both bounce, let out the x-wind correction, get her planted, feel the tail coming around, power power! Go around! Fun times.

Oh, and another thing, I refuse to comment on another's landing publicly. There but for the grace of God go I. We all screw up, and until you can honestly say you can do better, you should too.
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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Wed Feb 20, 2002 1:40 pm

Mine was on a KLM 744, IAH-AMS. It was a foggy June morning, and we didn't see the runway until we hit it. We hit the clouds on approach, bumped around for about 5 minutes. We rocked, rolled, pitched, yawed, just about everything. Then we suddenly slammed into the runway, bounced back up, and slammed down again, coming to a screetching halt.
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RE: Worst Landing In A Plane

Wed Feb 20, 2002 2:16 pm

I've never had an eventful landing on an airliner. Why doesn't that stuff ever happen to me? I did hear an interesting story this weekend though about a guy who went flying in a seaplane with his friend. The pilot died while in flight. His friend didn't know how to fly a plane at all. Luckily, with help on the radio, he landed it and walked away from it. The plane wasn't in very good shape though...

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