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Sat Nov 04, 2017 4:41 am

YYC BZE on westjet started today. Friday’s only seasonally.
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http://aviacionaldia.com/2017/11/air-pa ... uropa.html

Any truth to this?? Why would Air Panama start widebody service to Europe???
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Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:40 am

Proposed schedule on Iberia to Managua:

IB 6343....MAD 12:25 - 15:40 GUA 17:10 - 18:30 MGA........Mo, We, Fr......332
IB 6344....GUA 17:10 - 18:30 MGA 19:45 - 14:15+1 MAD....Mo, We, Fr......332
Effective: October 01, 2018 - October 28, 2018.

The source is not clear if this service is just seasonal.

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Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:32 am

WN FLL-SJO 7x weekly with 73G started on November 05th.
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:20 am

LTU932 wrote:
http://aviacionaldia.com/2017/11/air-panama-adquirira-un-airbus-a330-200-para-volar-a-europa.html

Any truth to this?? Why would Air Panama start widebody service to Europe???

Air Panama 7P operates out of PAC, which's not a suitable airport for wide-body aircraft. So A330 at PAC is a no-no.
That'd seem like is a deal with some charter airline from Europe which could fly to RIH (Río Hato, where 7P has flown charters w/ its own metal before) or to BLB (Howard / Panamá-Pacífico instead of to PTY) with some kind of cooperation w/7P.
7P also operates at DAV, which might be able to handle (tightly) an A330 but Chiriquí Province doesn't have the (beach) resort rooms to support a charter operation that RIH surroundings has.
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Tue Nov 07, 2017 2:54 pm

2travel2know2 wrote:
LTU932 wrote:
http://aviacionaldia.com/2017/11/air-panama-adquirira-un-airbus-a330-200-para-volar-a-europa.html

Any truth to this?? Why would Air Panama start widebody service to Europe???

Air Panama 7P operates out of PAC, which's not a suitable airport for wide-body aircraft. So A330 at PAC is a no-no.
That'd seem like is a deal with some charter airline from Europe which could fly to RIH (Río Hato, where 7P has flown charters w/ its own metal before) or to BLB (Howard / Panamá-Pacífico instead of to PTY) with some kind of cooperation w/7P.
7P also operates at DAV, which might be able to handle (tightly) an A330 but Chiriquí Province doesn't have the (beach) resort rooms to support a charter operation that RIH surroundings has.


I don't think that RIH can support a A330 due to the tunnel for the Pan-American Highway that passes under the runway. If not mistaken, the max capacity of the runway is for B757-200.

Most likely, those flights will need to use BLB or PTY. Hopefully, it will be BLB and 7P moves their operations from PAC to BLB. But then again, for this to occur, the third line of the transit system must be in place.
 
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Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:05 pm

Hola, amigos!

Reading about CM's increased US service, I've always wondered why not even when CM was closer to CO/UA, they took advantage of the NYC hub in EWR, as I see their flights arrive in JFK instead of Liberty.

What could that be?
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Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:47 pm

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Hola, amigos!

Reading about CM's increased US service, I've always wondered why not even when CM was closer to CO/UA, they took advantage of the NYC hub in EWR, as I see their flights arrive in JFK instead of Liberty.

What could that be?


There is enough market from the connecting flights coming through PTY from elsewhere on COPA's network that they decided to fly to an alternate destination in NYC instead of going throuh UA's hub at EWR.

Aside from that, being pretty close and on the same alliance, they also codeshare with UA on flights to EWR (and IAH too), so basically, it is up to the flyer to decide which route to go through, having both options from PTY or from wherever they are coming and connecting in PTY...
 
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Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:53 pm

Kilgen wrote:
2travel2know2 wrote:
LTU932 wrote:
http://aviacionaldia.com/2017/11/air-panama-adquirira-un-airbus-a330-200-para-volar-a-europa.html

Any truth to this?? Why would Air Panama start widebody service to Europe???

Air Panama 7P operates out of PAC, which's not a suitable airport for wide-body aircraft. So A330 at PAC is a no-no.
That'd seem like is a deal with some charter airline from Europe which could fly to RIH (Río Hato, where 7P has flown charters w/ its own metal before) or to BLB (Howard / Panamá-Pacífico instead of to PTY) with some kind of cooperation w/7P.
7P also operates at DAV, which might be able to handle (tightly) an A330 but Chiriquí Province doesn't have the (beach) resort rooms to support a charter operation that RIH surroundings has.


I don't think that RIH can support a A330 due to the tunnel for the Pan-American Highway that passes under the runway. If not mistaken, the max capacity of the runway is for B757-200.

Most likely, those flights will need to use BLB or PTY. Hopefully, it will be BLB and 7P moves their operations from PAC to BLB. But then again, for this to occur, the third line of the transit system must be in place.

I'm pretty sure none of Panama's secondary airports would be able to handle an A330. Space wise yes, but runways are too short to operate without some restrictions. That means DAV, RIH, PAC and BLB are out of the question. Only PTY is equipped for servicing large aircraft.
 
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Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:51 pm

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I'm pretty sure none of Panama's secondary airports would be able to handle an A330. Space wise yes, but runways are too short to operate without some restrictions. That means DAV, RIH, PAC and BLB are out of the question. Only PTY is equipped for servicing large aircraft.

I think BLB is capable of handling the A330, if I recal correctly back when the filming of one the newer James Bond movie's (Quantum of Solace I think) BA flew a 747 with the crew and equipment production to the then Howard airport.
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Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:11 pm

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I'm pretty sure none of Panama's secondary airports would be able to handle an A330. Space wise yes, but runways are too short to operate without some restrictions. That means DAV, RIH, PAC and BLB are out of the question. Only PTY is equipped for servicing large aircraft.

That's probably true of DAV, RIH and PAC.
BLB was a U.S. Air Force base with a wide-body capable runway.
Seems that also ONX (Colon France Field) is also wide-body capable as the runway was built thinking freighters might fly into ONX.
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Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:36 pm

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AASAP777 wrote:
Hola, amigos!

Reading about CM's increased US service, I've always wondered why not even when CM was closer to CO/UA, they took advantage of the NYC hub in EWR, as I see their flights arrive in JFK instead of Liberty.

What could that be?


There is enough market from the connecting flights coming through PTY from elsewhere on COPA's network that they decided to fly to an alternate destination in NYC instead of going throuh UA's hub at EWR.

Aside from that, being pretty close and on the same alliance, they also codeshare with UA on flights to EWR (and IAH too), so basically, it is up to the flyer to decide which route to go through, having both options from PTY or from wherever they are coming and connecting in PTY...


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Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:32 pm

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I've always wondered why not even when CM was closer to CO/UA, they took advantage of the NYC hub in EWR, as I see their flights arrive in JFK instead of Liberty.

CM JFK-PTY began in 2004, when the airline belonged to Sky Team grouping.
They also held a strong commercial relationship with Continental Airlines, in those days.
Thus, CO had opened the EWR-PTY sector and CM was blocked to attend the same route. CM began the PTY-JFK flights instead and disregarded the strong code-share cooperation services with CO.
CM PTY-JFK is 21x weekly with 738 nowadays, whereas UA EWR-PTY basically flies on a daily basis by now.

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Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:51 pm

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AASAP777 wrote:
I've always wondered why not even when CM was closer to CO/UA, they took advantage of the NYC hub in EWR, as I see their flights arrive in JFK instead of Liberty.

CM JFK-PTY began in 2004, when the airline belonged to Sky Team grouping.
They also held a strong commercial relationship with Continental Airlines, in those days.
Thus, CO had opened the EWR-PTY sector and CM was blocked to attend the same route. CM began the PTY-JFK flights instead and disregarded the strong code-share cooperation services with CO.
CM PTY-JFK is 21x weekly with 738 nowadays, whereas UA EWR-PTY basically flies on a daily basis by now.

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Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:08 pm

Based on earlier posts, I concur that CM PTY-JFK is a very strong market and supported on healthy connections through PTY. They don't need to fly to EWR instead to make money.
CM PTY-JFK goes from 21x to 28x weekly in February.
Both UA-CM already have a very well served market in New York City Area: CM PTY-JFK holds the UA designator as UA PTY-EWR bears the CM code.
AV is trying to emulate the dual JFK and EWR service out of San Salvador.

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Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:43 am

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CM PTY-JFK goes from 21x to 28x weekly in February.


I know CM will get the 737Max next year however it seems as they are adding frequencies in several markets as ORD, JFK, etc, are they reducing at any place or adding new planes ???? :hyper:
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Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:42 am

VivaAerobus from Mexico will start Cancun - San Jose service; twice a week with 320.
It's just seasonal.
Effective: December 01st.

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Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:50 am

This is the new version of Viva Aerobús livery:

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Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:07 pm

The Kangaroo on the tail will land in SAP sometime tomorrow to pick up the Socceroos after the match at the Olímpico. Already en route from SYD to HNL, and then continuing on to SAP:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA6031
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Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:13 pm

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AV is trying to emulate the dual JFK and EWR service out of San Salvador.




Hola, SJOtoLIR!

Are they adding SAL-EWR soon? Right now I only see UA's weekly nonstop to EWR.
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Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:27 pm

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Hola, SJOtoLIR!

Are they adding SAL-EWR soon? Right now I only see UA's weekly nonstop to EWR.


Yes, they are starting it on Nov 17th http://www.laprensa.hn/honduras/1123862-410/avianca-anuncia-operaci%C3%B3n-de-cinco-vuelos-semanales-hacia-nueva-jersey
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Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:51 pm

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Thanks, mbadia71! And with the link at La Prensa.hn it's great!
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Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:56 am

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Starting november 19. Volaris will add the following routes using A319.
GUA-TIJ
SAL-TIJ

The airline has released the schedule:

Q6 4063 TIJ 23:40 - 06:50+1 GUA 07:46+1 - 0848+1 SAL 319...Tu, Th, Su
Q6 4062 SAL17:05 - 1805 GUA 18:59 - 22:09 TIJ 319...Mo, We, Fr
Opereted by Volaris Costa Rica division
Effective: November 19th

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Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:16 pm

[quote=http://flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA6031[/quote]


QF's A330-300 landed last night at SAP after a SYD-HNL-SAP run to pick up the Australian Football team after today's match.

Same routing expected for the return. No pictures so far as it arrived at midnight last night.
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Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:14 pm

TAG is in the final stages of painting it's first jet, an ERJ 145. https://www.facebook.com/tag.airlines/photos/pcb.665533050307853/665531270308031/?type=3&theater
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Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:46 pm

Here's the kangaroo on the tail at SAP last night:

http://www.diez.hn/fotogalerias/1124611 ... o-sula?i=2
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TAG is in the final stages of painting it's first jet, an ERJ 145.

Is it a brand new plane ?
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aer wrote:
TAG is in the final stages of painting it's first jet, an ERJ 145.

Is it a brand new plane ?


Nooo, 17 year old ex United.

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SJOtoLIR wrote:
aer wrote:
TAG is in the final stages of painting it's first jet, an ERJ 145.

Is it a brand new plane ?


Nooo, 17 year old ex United.

Juanchito


The livery is nice but I would’ve liked a distinguishable logo on the tail rather than the name. Also no flag?
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juanchito wrote:
SJOtoLIR wrote:
Is it a brand new plane ?


Nooo, 17 year old ex United.

Juanchito


The livery is nice but I would’ve liked a distinguishable logo on the tail rather than the name. Also no flag?


I would love to see the Guatemalan Flag, but there is no law to force them to put them. Look at Aviateca (Avianca ATR72 TRC,TRD,TRE,TRF) They don't have them either.

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Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:44 am

Nature Air will add daily flights between SJO and DAV starting December 1. They already operate flights to BOC, so this will be the second destination in Panama. Most likely they will use one of their DHC-6-300.
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Nature Air will add daily flights between SJO and DAV starting December 1. They already operate flights to BOC, so this will be the second destination in Panama. Most likely they will use one of their DHC-6-300.

Going to fill the void left by 7P, given that Nature Air and 7P look like having some kind of cooperation.
Seems DAV-SJO wasn't a route CM wanted to fly again (yet).
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Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:24 am

Air Panama was the piooner on linking PAC with SJO with turbo-props, some years ago.
If I recall correctly, it was routed as PAC-DAV-SJO, thrice a week.
I think the PAC-SJO sector was more attractive than DAV-SJO due to the opening of 7P PAC-SJO 7x weekly to face Wingo BLB-SJO.
I remember posting on this board 10 years ago or so, about the opening of TACA REGIONAL [SJO-DAV] with ATR-42. The project never was materialized.

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I remember posting on this board 10 years ago or so, about the opening of TACA REGIONAL [SJO-DAV] with ATR-42. The project never was materialized..

When TACA took over AEROPERLAS it kept the name but never fully took advantage of the Panamanian carrier, specially if compared what CM did with P5 when they bought it.
However I do remember Aeroperlas flying its Shorts on DAV-SJO for a while to link with the TACA/LACSA SJO hub.
I wonder if TACA (now AV) still has Aeroperlas as a registered airline in Panamá as it just ended operations but never really terminated its incorporation.
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

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Air China will start 2 weekly frequencies to PTY starting on March 2018:
https://www.prensa.com/economia/Aerolin ... 10103.html
 
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Given the stop in IAH, does CA have 5th freedom rights for that route?
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Given the stop in IAH, does CA have 5th freedom rights for that route?

We shouldn't pay that much attention to possible CA IAH-PTY-IAH 5th freedom, if it happens OK, if not it's OK too.
CA, UA and CM are Star Alliance, so most likely - specially if CA IAH-PTY-IAH schedule complements UA's - it'd be quite important to improve IAH-PTY hub connectivity.
Great PTY has again an Asian flight but routing via IAH will stop a large number of potential passengers to fly CA's route.
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Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:08 pm

LOT Polish Airlines will start flying to PTY on December 25th to March 17th. https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... zil-panama

LOT Polish Airlines (LO, Warsaw Chopin) will operate six regular charter routes this winter, including two new services to Rio de Janeiro Int'l and Panamá City Tocumen Int'l, the carrier has announced.

The Polish airline regularly charters out capacity on its B787-8s to tour operators during the winter seasons to cope with lower demand on its key trans-Atlantic routes.

According to LOT's statement, the carrier will fly to Rio de Janeiro every 10-11 days beginning November 2 through March 19, 2018. The route to Panama City will be operated with the same frequency between December 25 and March 17, 2018.
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Air China will start 2 weekly frequencies to PTY starting on March 2018.

CA PEK-IAH is currently served with the 773. So, this is the equipment that we should expect in Panama City next year.




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Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:18 am

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Given the stop in IAH, does CA have 5th freedom rights for that route?

We shouldn't pay that much attention to possible CA IAH-PTY-IAH 5th freedom, if it happens OK, if not it's OK too.
CA, UA and CM are Star Alliance, so most likely - specially if CA IAH-PTY-IAH schedule complements UA's - it'd be quite important to improve IAH-PTY hub connectivity.
Great PTY has again an Asian flight but routing via IAH will stop a large number of potential passengers to fly CA's route.

Perhaps in the same way that happened before when EVA Air used to fly PTY-LAX-TPE...
To make sense out of this flight, we would have to see its timing and to which connections on the CM network it ties up to. It is more likely to draw people from South America to a shorter route (some who may not require a visa for transit in the US) than for any other public.
 
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LOT Polish Airlines will start flying to PTY on December 25th to March 17th. https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... zil-panama

Great news.
An Star Alliance airline flying long haul (scheduled?) charter between 2 alliance hubs surely should take advantage of selling a few seats on those flights on its website.
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It is more likely to draw people from South America to a shorter route (some who may not require a visa for transit in the US) than for any other public.
AFAIK, of all South American countries, only Chile and Argentina are part of the VWP. All other countries in the Southern Cone need a US visa even for simple transit.
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tommyarias wrote:
LOT Polish Airlines will start flying to PTY on December 25th to March 17th. https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... zil-panama

Great news.
An Star Alliance airline flying long haul (scheduled?) charter between 2 alliance hubs surely should take advantage of selling a few seats on those flights on its website.


But the LOT flights are only charter flights. If not mistaken, they are only 8 of them.
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:18 pm

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AFAIK, of all South American countries, only Chile and Argentina are part of the VWP. All other countries in the Southern Cone need a US visa even for simple transit.


No, only Chile is part of the VWP in South America.
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:38 pm

mabadia71 wrote:
LTU932 wrote:
AFAIK, of all South American countries, only Chile and Argentina are part of the VWP. All other countries in the Southern Cone need a US visa even for simple transit.


No, only Chile is part of the VWP in South America.
But didn't they want to bring Argentina back? I thought they were back but I just checked and I was wrong.
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