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Qantas Fleet Thread - Repaint, WIFI, refurbs etc

Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:17 am

This thread is to discuss the repainting of the Qantas fleet.

In October 2016 Qantas revealed an updated livery and kangaroo logo to coincide with the airline taking delivery of the 787 later this year and is expected that the whole fleet will be repainted in time as Qantas celebrates its centenary in 2020.

So far there are 3 A330-300's that have been repainted into the revised livery

VH-QPH
VH-QPI
VH-QPJ

Also repainted is the first 737-800 which returned to service yesterday after being repainted in Singapore

VH-VXM

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Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:27 am

I'm really liking the winglets! Four airplanes painted in like 7 months?? Bit slow but at least it proves good fleet utilisation I guess.
 
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Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:41 am

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I'm really liking the winglets! Four airplanes painted in like 7 months?? Bit slow but at least it proves good fleet utilisation I guess.


Yes it has been a bit slow. The 2nd 737-800 has gone in for painting, VH-VYD operated QF71 PER-SIN yesterday and repositioned to CGK for painting. Should be back in service towards the end of the month.
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Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:57 am

I flew to Sydney last Saturday and I noticed about 2 or 3 Fokker 100s in the network livery, anyone have a rough idea when these will be repainted?
 
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Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:03 am

Looking forward to seeing a 380 and 717 in the new scheme. Hopefully the 74ER will hang around long enough for a repaint too! When where they last painted? When would they be due for the next check?

I know people complain about how slow they are going but I believe the 738 wifi refit has taken an aircraft out along with the last 330 refits. Once they are back in the fleet perhaps it will speed up. Glad to see they are utilising their fleet to the max.

I know a number of the fleet are in the 90s scheme, I'm sure once hey made the decision for a new scheme, they stopped reprinting them until after the reveal - no sense in reprinting an aircraft even during Maintance just to reveal a new livery couple weeks/months later.

Might I suggest to keep this thread going (considering the pace of repaint) we also do a broader refits update; A330 new J, A332 to international config, 738 wifi, 717 to two class, and when we hear more 380 refers - anything I've missed?
 
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Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:29 am

Supposing the Centenary is a fixed date, then the 74Es should be repainted as they are expected to fly until 2022 IIRC.
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Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:18 pm

Remember when ZK-ZQA is transferred from Jetconnect NZ the 738 fleet increases by 1 frame so this might speed up the painting process by freeing up frames for paint.

Have heard some are being painted in JKT due to the paintshop in SIN being busy painting TR A320's in Scoot livery.
 
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Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:25 pm

I'm waiting to see a 380 in the new livery.

I actually love the current livery, still don't understand
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Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:27 pm

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Remember when ZK-ZQA is transferred from Jetconnect NZ the 738 fleet increases by 1 frame so this might speed up the painting process by freeing up frames for paint.

Have heard some are being painted in JKT due to the paintshop in SIN being busy painting TR A320's in Scoot livery.


This will be the 1st I hear about -ZQA transfer to mainline. My understanding the plan was scrapped.

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Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:12 am

In the other thread some posters expressed incredulity that there were still aircraft getting about in the 1987 livery... Shocking, they said, that it's been ten years since the last rebrand and still not done.

Funny then to see the catering truck in the picture's still using the 1987 logotype too :p

Not over the moon about the whole process either myself, but that's because I dislike the new roo, really dislike the new logotype, and loathe the belly titles (although compared to the A330 they are slightly less bad on the 737). Would have preferred an update that saw the 2007 livery given the silver band, and new winglet, engine cowl, and nose treatment.
 
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Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:25 am

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Not over the moon about the whole process either myself, but that's because I dislike the new roo, really dislike the new logotype, and loathe the belly titles (although compared to the A330 they are slightly less bad on the 737). Would have preferred an update that saw the 2007 livery given the silver band, and new winglet, engine cowl, and nose treatment.


Hey mate,
I couldn't agree with you more.

And in further news ... how bizarre that a 737 freighter was delivered recently in the OLD QF livery with the new blue StarTrack titles... does anybody have further info on the delivery date of this plane compared to the unveiling date of the new livery? I am sure the latter was earlier than the former!

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Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:34 am

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I flew to Sydney last Saturday and I noticed about 2 or 3 Fokker 100s in the network livery, anyone have a rough idea when these will be repainted?


After the second 737 has been repainted in the coming weeks (VH-VYD for those wondering) the first Fokker 100 is set to be repainted. It will be VH-NHP; this aircraft is still in the Network Aviation livery. So it is fair to say that the Network fleet is be in the new livery relatively soon.
 
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Sat Jul 15, 2017 7:31 am

I too loathe the new logo type - skinny sans serif is very much on trend at the moment. This is why I believe it will date very quickly and have a very short lifespan at QF.

I particularly dislike the lack of space between the logo and typeface on the websites and signage. Its just too close.

The rest I like... except the poor roo losing his arms.
 
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Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:21 am

Am I the the only one who thinks this livery would look absolutely stunning on the Airbus A350? <3
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Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:37 am

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angusjt wrote:
I flew to Sydney last Saturday and I noticed about 2 or 3 Fokker 100s in the network livery, anyone have a rough idea when these will be repainted?


After the second 737 has been repainted in the coming weeks (VH-VYD for those wondering) the first Fokker 100 is set to be repainted. It will be VH-NHP; this aircraft is still in the Network Aviation livery. So it is fair to say that the Network fleet is be in the new livery relatively soon.


Yep, I was just reading through an Instagram comment chain and the apparent rumour is that VH-NHP will be back at Perth on Tuesday sometime around 3pm
 
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Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:00 am

The winglets do look great. Yeah I think they've struggled with the font. The last one largely worked but the 's' was a bit of a mess. Plusses and minuses, I just hope they're a little more proactive this time. Looking forward to seeing their t-tail fleet and the 747s in it.
 
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Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:49 pm

I'm really disappointed with the placement of the Q A N T A S belly titles :(

https://instagram.com/p/BWkZdyLgYnU/

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Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:25 pm

I love centenary (silver) roo. Re: 737 belly. Its easy to see the logic of its placement. If the lettering ran through the landing gear area, parts of the middle letters would be missing, and the blackness of the landing gear when retracted, as well as the darkness of the landing gear well, when open, would bugger the whole word, look tacky, and 'plane spotters' would be furious lol. Plus I notice the belly area in front of the landing gear has lots of 'maintenance area' bits n pieces (my description lol), which I suppose is difficult to put lettering over, without the lettering being scratched/damaged during maintenance. And being a white belly, that area looks to get dirty quite easily. So, in my humble opinion, the placement is in its best/most practical position. :)
 
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Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:00 am

Separate from the livery it disappoints me the Melbourne airport branding is still 3rd generation old, yet all other domestic terminals see to have been upgraded? The lights outside Don't even light all the letters up.
 
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Sun Jul 16, 2017 3:46 am

Hey guys,
Any rumours / hints / speculation yet on the next special livery for QF? I keep hearing about how awesome it would be to have a TAA retro jet and the 717 would be perfect for that due to it's DC-9 heritage, but as far as I know, it's just us avgeeks getting excited about the POSSIBILITY of one rather than any firm facts.
Also, I wonder when the centenary logo for 'QF 100 years' will be revealed? Probably a few years away I expect, although planning would surely have started now.
As for the belly titles, I understand why the placement is where it is. I also appreciate that they appear to be deliberately ;lined up' with the titles on the upper fuselage - look at the last photo posted in this thread. It would have driven me insane if the belly titles and the upper fuselage titles were out of alignment when they can both be seen so easily at the same time as the plane lands and climbs out...
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Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:45 pm

It would be interesting to see how Qantas would put the new livery on the 717, F100 and QF00 aircraft.
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Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:13 am

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I flew to Sydney last Saturday and I noticed about 2 or 3 Fokker 100s in the network livery, anyone have a rough idea when these will be repainted?


VH-NHP is the first QantasLink (Network Aviation) Fokker 100 to be painted in the new livery. At this stage, she's due to ferry back to PER from WGA on Wednesday. It wouldn't be unreasonable to think another F100 might head to WGA shortly to take her place, depending what other work the facility there has on at the moment.

I believe there is a Dash 8 Q300 due to head up to TSV around the 27th for paint there. Makes some sense as VA sent a B737 to the paint shop in TSV only a week or so ago.
 
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Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:51 am

I thought that Dash-8 200s and 300s were to be retired by the end of 2018?

If that was the case it probably doesn't make sense to replant them.
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Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:11 am

I've not heard that about the Dashes? Certainly they would be mad to let all the Q200s go as they would have to stop LDH. And the Q300 is necessary for several other markets such as CTL, ARM. and is currently carrying all of the ADL Dash 8 operations. I can see them drawing the fleets down, but not to zero.
 
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Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:38 am

A quick Google search didn't bring up anything specific, but I was under the impression that the impetus for the upgrade to Armidale Airport was that Qantas had given notice that unless they installed security screening then they would leave the market if the airport couldn't handle Q400s.

Lord Howe is the real question mark. Maybe I'm mistaken and the plan was to retire the 300s but keep the 200s for niche markets like LDH and MRZ.
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Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:58 am

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Call me old-fashioned - but i HATE this new livery.

The Font, the new "roo" - just doesn't work for me.
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Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:37 am

Come on, it's not even a new livery. It's the same damn thing with fresh type face for a more modern look.
 
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Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:00 am

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I've not heard that about the Dashes? Certainly they would be mad to let all the Q200s go as they would have to stop LDH. And the Q300 is necessary for several other markets such as CTL, ARM. and is currently carrying all of the ADL Dash 8 operations. I can see them drawing the fleets down, but not to zero.


I also haven’t heard anything about the Classic fleet — and they are still hiring pilots onto them as we speak.

LDH can in fact handle the Q300 without too much hassle: there is a payload penalty but it would still be able to lift what the 200 can in most circumstances if they were to retire all but the late-build Q300s.
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Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:05 am

Personally I find the revised livery a bit of a mystery. I think the type face is an odd choice - the horizontal position of the dash on the Q means that it is now easy to read the name as OANTAS instead of QANTAS. Not sure this works at all.
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First QantasLink F-100 painted:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bidgee/35611697670/

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Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:51 am

Love the twin roos with the engines up there next to the tail.
 
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Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:56 am

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First QantasLink F-100 painted:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bidgee/35611697670/

New scheme is growing on me!


The F-100 has come up pretty good in the silveroo livery
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Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:26 pm

It's funny seeing a Qantas T-tail with a new paint job. You certainly don't notice how dirty the old paint work was. This might just be my new favorite aircraft/livery combo!
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First QantasLink F-100 painted:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bidgee/35611697670/

New scheme is growing on me!


Stunning! I love it:)

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Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:48 pm

vhebb wrote:
First QantasLink F-100 painted:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bidgee/35611697670/

New scheme is growing on me!


Very classy. Works perfectly with the F100. I am betting it will look stunning on the 717!
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Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:15 pm

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A quick Google search didn't bring up anything specific, but I was under the impression that the impetus for the upgrade to Armidale Airport was that Qantas had given notice that unless they installed security screening then they would leave the market if the airport couldn't handle Q400s.

QF have been giving notice for a while now that the DHC-8-200s and -300s have a finite lifespan and they were considering options beyond that - QantasLink's CEO gave a submission to the NSW Parliament on regional air services that the report summarises as:

7.11 Lord Howe Island, currently serviced by a QantasLink Q200 aircraft, is a route that could be placed in jeopardy by QantasLink’s upgauging program. The runway at Lord Howe Island cannot accommodate larger aircraft and is unable to be extended because of environmental constraints. Mr Gissing advised that QantasLink is currently licensed to continue this service until 2018, after which it will be a challenge to continue the service.433

7.12 When questioned by the committee about other regional air routes that may be affected by the phasing in of the Q400, QantasLink confirmed that Armidale Airport would require pavement enhancements to accommodate the larger aircraft. Additionally, current passenger numbers on both the Moree and Armidale routes would not support a Q400 aircraft. If passenger numbers increased to adequate levels to sustain a larger aircraft, both airports would need to implement security screening infrastructure, as required by legislation.434
 
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Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:41 pm

Continental767 wrote:
vhebb wrote:
First QantasLink F-100 painted:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bidgee/35611697670/

New scheme is growing on me!


Very classy. Works perfectly with the F100. I am betting it will look stunning on the 717!


:bigthumbsup: I agree. Slick and clean lines. The silver 'strip' works well between the stark white fuselage and the bright red tail/end. (Silver is way more classier than gold..gold is sooo 20thcentury ;) ) I do love the 'little reds' on the engine cowlings. They compliment the 'circle red roo' near the flight deck :bigthumbsup: A classy integration of the past and the present/future. All in all, 'Two thumbs up' from me. Looking forward to seeing the other aircraft types as they commence their paint schedules down the track :D
 
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Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:51 am

NHP has also been christened "Paraburdoo". I hope the rest of the Qlink fleet get named as they receive new paint. Previously only a few Q400s got named.
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Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:49 am

I also noticed a lack of belly titles on NHP.

I would also assume the first A380s delivered will be destined for a repaint by years end?
 
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Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:02 pm

angusjt wrote:
I also noticed a lack of belly titles on NHP.

I would also assume the first A380s delivered will be destined for a repaint by years end?


Personally I don't think we will see any A380's repainted until next year at the earliest, not until MEL-DXB-LHR ends in favour of MEL-PER-LHR as they will have a bit more slack in the fleet which they don't have currently
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Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:36 pm

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angusjt wrote:
t wouldn't be unreasonable to think another F100 might head to WGA shortly to take her place, depending what other work the facility there has on at the moment.

RAAF A97-448 is in the hangar ATM. Reason for NHP taking so long was due to the Indonesian Air Force C-130H A-1336 (ex RAAF A97-007) being painted in the hangar, which was completed on 21 June.

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Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:57 pm

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I also noticed a lack of belly titles on NHP.

I would also assume the first A380s delivered will be destined for a repaint by years end?


I've noticed the lack of belly titles too :(

Disappointing!

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Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:08 pm

Well I'm based at RAAF Wagga which is next to the airport and there is a few Network aircraft loitering around. Are these destined to be repainted into Qantas colours?
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Thu Jul 20, 2017 12:24 am

For any concerned about Qantas' inability to repaint their whole fleet by their centenary, they can redefine their unrepainted fleet to be a retro scheme. You'll just have a whole lot more Retro Roos flying around. :)
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the horizontal position of the dash on the Q means that it is now easy to read the name as OANTAS instead of QANTAS.

Who would do that?
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Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:53 am

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RyanairGuru wrote:
A quick Google search didn't bring up anything specific, but I was under the impression that the impetus for the upgrade to Armidale Airport was that Qantas had given notice that unless they installed security screening then they would leave the market if the airport couldn't handle Q400s.

QF have been giving notice for a while now that the DHC-8-200s and -300s have a finite lifespan and they were considering options beyond that - QantasLink's CEO gave a submission to the NSW Parliament on regional air services that the report summarises as:

7.11 Lord Howe Island, currently serviced by a QantasLink Q200 aircraft, is a route that could be placed in jeopardy by QantasLink’s upgauging program. The runway at Lord Howe Island cannot accommodate larger aircraft and is unable to be extended because of environmental constraints. Mr Gissing advised that QantasLink is currently licensed to continue this service until 2018, after which it will be a challenge to continue the service.433

7.12 When questioned by the committee about other regional air routes that may be affected by the phasing in of the Q400, QantasLink confirmed that Armidale Airport would require pavement enhancements to accommodate the larger aircraft. Additionally, current passenger numbers on both the Moree and Armidale routes would not support a Q400 aircraft. If passenger numbers increased to adequate levels to sustain a larger aircraft, both airports would need to implement security screening infrastructure, as required by legislation.434


I was under this impression too. I wonder if QFLink will eventually leave routes like MRZ to the likes of Fly Corporate at add a codeshare number to it? They did it with Brindebella until they went pair shaped. I think FC would make a good QF partner. Sorry for getting off topic!
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Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:34 am

Oh dear it seams nothing QF does or has done with the revised livery , that most do not to like it. We had in the past 1 member who wrote a protest letter to QF with his disgust. People don't like the font, the location of the belly logo the roo with no arms or the colour of the band on the tail . Grow up it is what it is and I am sure there are better more important issues to discuss .
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Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:36 am

I really liked the idea of introducing the grey line on the kangaroo on the tail of the aircraft "to give it a sense of depth" as they said or to give it kind of a three-dimensional look.

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But both in the picture of the 737 and the F100 you can hardly see it. I even thought they had dismissed the idea, just when I opened the pic's and zoomed in I realized that there is actually a grey line.
Maybe it should be darker... just saying...
 
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Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:04 am

It is more of a halftone effect that they've used rather than a solid silver/grey, which the larger (2000x1333 px) version shows.

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Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:00 am

So am I the only one who prefers this to the old livery and thinks this is an amazing livery overall?
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Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos