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ATR 42/72 Production and Delivery thread

Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:39 am

Hi everyone, I noticed that most major aircraft have a thread dedicated to them, except for the ATR, so I decided to make one for this aircraft. ATR have had a great year, and I hope that this thread can be successful too. Feel free to post updates. :D :airplane:
 
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Re: ATR 42/72 Production and Delivery thread

Mon Aug 07, 2017 2:46 pm

Thanks for creating this; indeed I miss a follow-up thread for non A&B aircraft types.

For now, it is looking like a good year (yet again) for ATR. With 89 orders + 20 options, they have met their order goals for the year already in june. The backlog is over 250 a/c, or three years of production. This does not include the recent Silver order.

http://www.atraircraft.com/newsroom/pre ... 53-en.html
 
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Re: ATR 42/72 Production and Delivery thread

Mon Aug 07, 2017 2:50 pm

r2rho wrote:

For now, it is looking like a good year (yet again) for ATR. With 89 orders + 20 options, they have met their order goals for the year already in june. The backlog is over 250 a/c, or three years of production. This does not include the recent Silver order.



And Silver Airways signed a LOI for 20 aircraft, perhaps it will turn into a firm order before the end of the year.
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Next ATR deliveries?

Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:37 am

I'M looking to find out which ATR aircraft are due off the production line/maiden flight tests and which airlines they are going to.

Many thanks for your help.

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Re: Next ATR deliveries?

Thu Aug 24, 2017 5:11 pm

EZEflyerEMB wrote:
I'M looking to find out which ATR aircraft are due off the production line/maiden flight tests and which airlines they are going to.



Have a look at https://www.planespotters.net/productio ... n&dir=desc
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Re: ATR 42/72 Production and Delivery thread

Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:47 pm

NZ got a new one in July, which begs the question, what does a delivery flight TLS-NZ look like for an ATR, ought to be making a lot of stops.
 
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Re: ATR 42/72 Production and Delivery thread

Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:18 pm

rebr wrote:
NZ got a new one in July, which begs the question, what does a delivery flight TLS-NZ look like for an ATR, ought to be making a lot of stops.


I think it is only 5 or so stops, I believe it is something like Toulouse - Oman - Singapore - Brisbane - Auckland

Although looking at that on GC mapper it looks like that may be more of an A320 delivery route. I know they do go through SIN and BNE at some point though.
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Re: ATR 42/72 Production and Delivery thread

Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:50 pm

77west wrote:
rebr wrote:
NZ got a new one in July, which begs the question, what does a delivery flight TLS-NZ look like for an ATR, ought to be making a lot of stops.


I think it is only 5 or so stops, I believe it is something like Toulouse - Oman - Singapore - Brisbane - Auckland

Although looking at that on GC mapper it looks like that may be more of an A320 delivery route. I know they do go through SIN and BNE at some point though.

I think it could be more stops than that. When Iran Air was receiving its planes, the ATRS had to stop at Athens, on their way to Tehran. No way an ATR could go all the way to Oman from Toulouse
 
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Re: ATR 42/72 Production and Delivery thread

Sun Aug 27, 2017 3:05 pm

IranianMan123 wrote:
77west wrote:
rebr wrote:
NZ got a new one in July, which begs the question, what does a delivery flight TLS-NZ look like for an ATR, ought to be making a lot of stops.


I think it is only 5 or so stops, I believe it is something like Toulouse - Oman - Singapore - Brisbane - Auckland

Although looking at that on GC mapper it looks like that may be more of an A320 delivery route. I know they do go through SIN and BNE at some point though.

I think it could be more stops than that. When Iran Air was receiving its planes, the ATRS had to stop at Athens, on their way to Tehran. No way an ATR could go all the way to Oman from Toulouse


Fitted with extra tanks maybe?

And extra tanks are probably needed to reach New Zealand, Wikipedia says that an ATR 72 has a range of 1,528 km, BNE-AKL is 2,298 km.
 
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Re: ATR 42/72 Production and Delivery thread

Sun Aug 27, 2017 3:51 pm

IranianMan123 wrote:
I think it could be more stops than that. When Iran Air was receiving its planes, the ATRS had to stop at Athens, on their way to Tehran. No way an ATR could go all the way to Oman from Toulouse

Correct, and thanks for starting the thread.

The delivery flight for Air NZ's 16th ATR72-600 ZK-MVP (msn 1444 --- F-WWEQ) was as follows:
29 Jul TLS-HBE-AAN, 31 Jul AAN-NAG-SZB, 01 Aug SZB-DPS-DRW, 02 Aug DRW-BNE, 03 Aug BNE-CHC.

The 17th ATR72-600 ZK-MVQ (msn 1451 --- F-WWEX) should be delivered in about a week and I expect it will use the same routing.

Prior to the 15th aircraft (ZK-MVN) the delivery routing was TLS-HBE-AAN, AAN-NAG-PEN, PEN-KOE, KOE-BNE, BNE-CHC.

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Re: ATR 42/72 Production and Delivery thread

Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:22 pm

PA515 wrote:
IranianMan123 wrote:
I think it could be more stops than that. When Iran Air was receiving its planes, the ATRS had to stop at Athens, on their way to Tehran. No way an ATR could go all the way to Oman from Toulouse

Correct, and thanks for starting the thread.

The delivery flight for Air NZ's 16th ATR72-600 ZK-MVP (msn 1444 --- F-WWEQ) was as follows:
29 Jul TLS-HBE-AAN, 31 Jul AAN-NAG-SZB, 01 Aug SZB-DPS-DRW, 02 Aug DRW-BNE, 03 Aug BNE-CHC.

The 17th ATR72-600 ZK-MVQ (msn 1451 --- F-WWEX) should be delivered in about a week and I expect it will use the same routing.

Prior to the 15th aircraft (ZK-MVN) the delivery routing was TLS-HBE-AAN, AAN-NAG-PEN, PEN-KOE, KOE-BNE, BNE-CHC.

PA515

I wonder what the reason for the changed routing was? Here are both routes shown on GC Map, for what it's worth:

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http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=TLS-HBE-AA ... =wls&DU=nm

The longest leg going by that (which of course doesn't account for the vagaries of ATC and standard routes) is Kupang to Brisbane at 1958nm, and if we're just looking at the new routing, Nagpur to Kuala Lumpur Subang at 1699nm.

Bostrom wrote:
Fitted with extra tanks maybe?

And extra tanks are probably needed to reach New Zealand, Wikipedia says that an ATR 72 has a range of 1,528 km, BNE-AKL is 2,298 km.

You need to take single-figure range figures with a grain of salt, especially if, like on that Wikipedia article, they are not stated with the conditions that determined them. That figure of 1,528km or 825nm is range with maximum passengers, according to: http://www.atraircraft.com/products_app/media/pdf/FAMILY_septembre2014.pdf.

If we look at a payload range chart for the ATR 72-600 (such as the one on page 17 of http://www.atraircraft.com/products_app/media/pdf/Brochure-ATR-600-Series_2014.pdf, we can see that it can cover 1750nm equivalent still air distance with about 2700kg of payload. Going eastbound, the wind helps, so there shouldn't be any need for extra tanks.

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Re: ATR 42/72 Production and Delivery thread

Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:44 am

Per http://m.appledaily.com.tw/realtimenews ... 6/1168809/ , Far East Air Transport said the cost for their new ATR-72-600 will be higher than their MD(80s), thus they will raise the price. While as a new airplane they would indeed cost more to acquire, how could it work out to necessitate fare increase?
 
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Re: ATR 42/72 Production and Delivery thread

Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:27 am

Air NZ ATR 72-600 ZK-MVQ (msn 1451, ex F-WWEX) on delivery as SXI1737.
Routing TLS - TZX - AAN instead of the usual TLS - HBE - AAN.
http://flightradar24.com/SXI1737/ec4a4f8

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Re: ATR 42/72 Production and Delivery thread

Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:33 am

IndiGo CEO Aditya Ghosh recently uploaded some pics of an under construction IndiGo AT72

https://www.instagram.com/p/BYnN-XKh9L4/
 
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Re: ATR 42/72 Production and Delivery thread

Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:39 am

anshabhi wrote:
IndiGo CEO Aditya Ghosh recently uploaded some pics of an under construction IndiGo AT72

https://www.instagram.com/p/BYnN-XKh9L4/


Does anyone know what these numbers on the ATR translate too?

There seems to be quite a lack of photos of new ATRs in Toulouse this summer - can anyone on this thread link to somewhere that photos are posted? I've checked Flickr, Airliners.net, Jetphotos etc.
 
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Re: ATR 42/72 Production and Delivery thread

Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:23 am

bmibaby737 wrote:
Does anyone know what these numbers on the ATR translate too?

Re T314??VM3008 on the nose of the 6E aircraft. These numbers are on both sides of the nose and tail section.

T3 is an ATR 72-600.
14?? is the msn number
VM is the customer code. Usually the airline IATA code or the leasing company code.
3008 means the 8th ATR 72 for that customer.

For instance:
T31346NZ3013 was ZK-MVM the thirteenth ATR 72-600 for Air NZ.
T31390IR3003 was EP-ITC the third ATR 72-600 for Iran Air
T313975J3013 was RP-C7283 the thirteenth ATR 72-500 / ATR 72-600 for Cebu Air

An ATR 42-600 ntu for Azul was 5T1211A45013

Sometimes aircraft go to customers different than the customer code on the fuselage.

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Re: ATR 42/72 Production and Delivery thread

Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:19 pm

PA515 wrote:
bmibaby737 wrote:
Does anyone know what these numbers on the ATR translate too?

Re T314??VM3008 on the nose of the 6E aircraft. These numbers are on both sides of the nose and tail section.

T3 is an ATR 72-600.
14?? is the msn number
VM is the customer code. Usually the airline IATA code or the leasing company code.
3008 means the 8th ATR 72 for that customer.

For instance:
T31346NZ3013 was ZK-MVM the thirteenth ATR 72-600 for Air NZ.
T31390IR3003 was EP-ITC the third ATR 72-600 for Iran Air
T313975J3013 was RP-C7283 the thirteenth ATR 72-500 / ATR 72-600 for Cebu Air

An ATR 42-600 ntu for Azul was 5T1211A45013

Sometimes aircraft go to customers different than the customer code on the fuselage.

PA515


Exactly the information I was looking for; thanks PA515!
 
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Re: ATR 42/72 Production and Delivery thread

Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:22 pm

First Air Senegal 72-600 emerged from paint:

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First ATR 72-600 Air Senegal F-WWET by Jujug Spotting, on Flickr
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Re: ATR 42/72 Production and Delivery thread

Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:27 pm

Next IranAir MSN 1424 has been spotted in Toulouse:

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https://www.facebook.com/Aircrafts-Toul ... 411440390/
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Re: ATR 42/72 Production and Delivery thread

Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:06 am

The IR paint livery with the blue wave is much more elegant than the one without wave one (on the first 4).
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Re: ATR 42/72 Production and Delivery thread

Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:43 am

There should be some pretty good ATR delivery routes ex-New Zealand too, with the delivers of NZ's used 72-500s finding new homes.
 
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Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:09 am

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Re: ATR 42/72 Production and Delivery thread

Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:30 am

And here's the 6th Iran Air ATR aircraft:

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F-WWEC ATR72 IRAN AIR by cliper31, on Flickr
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Re: ATR 42/72 Production and Delivery thread

Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:37 am

Iran Air took delivery of two ATR aircraft:

ATR 72 -212A(600) 1424 EP-ITE Iran Air delivery 27-28sep17 TLS-ATH-THR (+ 1431 EP-ITF ex F-WWEC)) ex F-WWET
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Re: ATR 42/72 Production and Delivery thread

Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:04 pm

Second Air Senegal ATR left paintshop recently, delivery soon https://www.flickr.com/photos/8509543@N03/37288681176/
 
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Re: ATR 42/72 Production and Delivery thread

Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:52 pm

IndiGo's first ATR 72-600 emerged from paint in TLS.

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1st ATR 72-600 Indigo by Jujug Spotting, on Flickr

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Re: ATR 42/72 Production and Delivery thread

Sat Oct 07, 2017 5:49 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
IndiGo's first ATR 72-600 emerged from paint in TLS.

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1st ATR 72-600 Indigo by Jujug Spotting, on Flickr

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1st ATR 72-600 Indigo by Jujug Spotting, on Flickr

Looking very good
 
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Re: ATR 42/72 Production and Delivery thread

Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:12 pm

Last week it was mentioned by FastJet that they have struck a deal to lease 3 ATR72-600s to use on new ventures in Mozambique and South Africa and also perhaps in existing markets of Zimbabwe and Tanzania...anybody have any idea about this, leasing company...and if it is allocated already?
 
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Re: ATR 42/72 Production and Delivery thread

Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:14 am

IndiGo today took delivery of its first ATR 72-600 aircraft.

See https://twitter.com/ATRaircraft/status/ ... 9624401920
Press release http://newsroom.aviator.aero/indigo-tak ... tr-72-600/
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