jubguy3 wrote:

I don't think that they loaded in the A333 for the rest of the year. They are retiring the 763; they aren't moving it somewhere else for the season.

There are also two widebody flights to ATL. Were you mixing them up? There's HNL-SLC-ATL, and SLC-ATL.

The A333 will be doing the ATL-SLC-HNL route permanently, the 763 will actually start doing the SLC-HNL leg starting March 25th and will continue until whenever it's retired next year. I know that's one route for the 763, I wasn't sure however if the pair was gonna same routes, or have that specific ship have that particular route. Of course things could change in the future.

Sorry if it sounds complicated, just trying to figure out a bit of the plans for the two 763 aircraft. Both are doing charter runs at the moment and we already have one starting next year on the 25th of March, just not so sure if both 763s will share the same route. Forgive me if it sounds a bit retarded just trying to explain a bit.

During the winter schedule, the 763s will spend their weekends on NFL runs, some weekdays on military runs as well as the odd rescue flights. The 763s are also scheduled to do Thanksgiving runs out of ATL to SEA/SAN/SLC/MSP as well as Christmas/New Year runs. Post NFL season, you'll probably see them on weekend runs to warm destinations out of MSP/DTW.

Come the summer, they'll do the ATL-SLC-HNL run which requires 1.5 aircraft allowing for a afternoon/red eye turn from ATL-West Coast (SAN/SFO/SEA) in between Hawaii runs.

Aircraft change effective 11/8:
+ scheduled additional JFK-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ scheduled additional ATL-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-LAX route (333 replaces 738)
+ unscheduled JFK-BOS ferry flight (operated by 763ER-high J); aircraft repositioning
<> unscheduled aircraft swap on JFK-ZRH route (763ER-low J replaces 763ER-high J)

Other:
+ RDU-PIT NCAA charter bringing the Tar Heels to Pittsburgh for Thursday's game against the Panthers (operated by 763)
+ SEA-PHX NFL charter bringing the Seahawks to Arizona for Thursday's game against the Cards (operated by 333)
+ OSN-PEK military/government/press charter (operated by 763ER-high J)
+ N867DA (772) exited AMA with new paint (12 days)
+ N813NW (333) is back in service following engine failure on 10/26

Aircraft change effective 11/9:
+ scheduled additional JFK-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ scheduled additional ATL-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ scheduled one-off JFK-LIS flight (operated by 763ER-high J)
+ unscheduled upgrade on JFK-BRU route (764 replaces 763ER-low J)
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-SLC route (333 replaces 752)
<> unscheduled aircraft swap on JFK-ZRH route (763ER-low J replaces 763ER-high J)
<> unscheduled aircraft swap on ATL-NRT route (772 replaces 77L)
<> unscheduled aircraft swap on ATL-ICN route (77L replaces 772)

Other:
+ TLH-GSP NCAA charter bringing the Seminoles to Clemson for Saturday's game (operated by 763)
+ PEK-DAD military/government/press charter (operated by 763ER-high J)
+ RIV-SVN military charter (operated by 333)
+ GRK-RIV-PHX military charter (operated by 744)
+ GRK-RIV military charter (operated by 744)

Aircraft change effective 11/10:
+ scheduled additional JFK-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ scheduled additional ATL-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ scheduled one-way ATL-MSP additional flight (operated by 764)
+ unscheduled upgrade on JFK-SJU route (763ER-low J replaces 752)
+ unscheduled upgrade on SLC-SEA route (333 replaces 738)
+ unscheduled upgrade on SEA-NRT route (333 replaces 763ER-high J)
+ unscheduled upgrade on DTW-CDG route (333 replaces 332)
+ unscheduled MCO-ATL ferry flight (operated by 764)
- unscheduled downgrade on DTW-AMS route (332 replaces 333)

Other:
+ RDU-SWF NCAA charter bringing the Blue Devils to West Point for Saturday's game (operated by 763)
+ SBN-FLL NCAA charter bringing the Fighting Irish to Miami for Saturday's game (operated by 333)
+ LAX-JAX NFL charter bringing the Chargers to Jacksonville for Sunday's game (operated by 333)

Aircraft change effective 11/11:
+ scheduled additional JFK-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ scheduled additional ATL-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ unscheduled upgrade on NRT-PVG route (333 replaces 763ER-low J); maintenance swap
+ unscheduled upgrade on LAX-ATL route (333 replaces 739)
+ unscheduled JFK-PDX ferry flight (operated by 763ER-low J); aircraft rescue
+ unscheduled ATL-MSP ferry flight (operated by 764)
<> unscheduled aircraft swap on PDX-NRT route (763ER-low J replaces 763ER-high J)
<> unscheduled aircraft swap on ATL-ICN route (77L replaces 772)

Other:
+ DAD-HAN military/government/press charter (operated by 763ER-high J)
+ GRB-ORD NFL charter bringing the Packers to Chicago for Sunday's game (operated by 764)
+ CVG-BNA NFL charter bringing the Bengals to Nashville for Sunday's game (operated by 333)
+ MSP-IAD NFL charter bringing the Vikings to Washington for Sunday's game (operated by 333)

Any idea how long the refurbishment of a single 777 will take? Let’s say an airframe enters mods in mid-March, when should it exit mods and start revenue service again?

Aircraft change effective 11/12:
+ scheduled additional JFK-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ scheduled additional ATL-LHR flight (operated by 763ER-high J); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ unscheduled upgrade on NRT-SEA route (333 replaces 763ER-high J); maintenance swap
+ unscheduled upgrade on SEA-ATL route (333 replaces 739)
+ unscheduled JFK-ATL ferry flight (operated by 763ER-low J)
+ unscheduled SLC-LAX ferry flight (operated by 763ER-low J)
+ unscheduled ATL-MCO ferry flight (operated by 764)
+ unscheduled MSP-ATL ferry flight (operated by 772)

Other:
+ HAN-MNL-CRK military/government/press charter (operated by 763ER-high J)
+ HHN-KWI-HHN-MSP-GRK military charter (operated by 744)
+ PHX-GRK-RIV military charter (operated by 744)

NateGreat wrote:

Any idea how long the refurbishment of a single 777 will take? Let’s say an airframe enters mods in mid-March, when should it exit mods and start revenue service again?

I'd say with the amount of work that has to be done I'd expect it to take close to 2 months to completely guy the interior, accomplish any checks, install new seating and get it certified by the FAA and FDA.

When is N503DN going to ferry to DTW?
Currently it is in MSP, the DTW-ICN A350 flight starts alternating with the B744 this Saturday.

777Mech wrote:

NateGreat wrote:

Any idea how long the refurbishment of a single 777 will take? Let’s say an airframe enters mods in mid-March, when should it exit mods and start revenue service again?

I'd say with the amount of work that has to be done I'd expect it to take close to 2 months to completely guy the interior, accomplish any checks, install new seating and get it certified by the FAA and FDA.

So, by the Summer, we should start seeing them in service?

Aircraft change effective 11/13:
+ scheduled additional JFK-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ scheduled additional ATL-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ scheduled additional MSP-ATL sector (operated by 764)
+ scheduled additional LAX-PHX-ATL sectors (operated by 333)
+ unscheduled DTW-YYT-JFK ferry flight (operated by 763); passenger rescue
+ unscheduled NRT-PDX-JFK ferry flight (operated by 763ER-low J); repositioning

Other:
+ RIV-SVN military charter (operated by 763)
+ DTW-KWI-HHN military charter (operated by 744)
+ N171DN (763ER-high J) exited ATL maintenance (12 days)
+ N1605 (763ER-high J) exited ATL maintenance (20 days)

Aircraft change effective 11/14:
+ scheduled additional JFK-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ scheduled additional ATL-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-MSP-ATL route (763 replaces 752/753)
+ unscheduled LAX-SLC ferry flight (operated by 763ER-low J)
+ unscheduled ATL-MSP ferry flight (operated by 772); aircraft rescue
+ unscheduled MSP-ATL ferry flight (operated by 772); aircraft repositioning
<> unscheduled aircraft swap on ATL-ICN route (77L replaces 772)

Other:
+ CRK-MNL-HNL-ADW military/government/press charter (operated by 763ER-high J)

Aircraft change effective 11/15:
+ scheduled additional JFK-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ scheduled additional ATL-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ unscheduled upgrade on JFK-ATL-JFK route (763ER-low J replaces 320); maintenance swap
+ JFK-EWR ferry flight (operated by 763ER-low J); aircraft rescue
+ EWR-JFK ferry flight (operated by 763ER-low J); aircraft repositioning
<> unscheduled aircraft swap on SLC-CDG route (763ER-low J replaces 763ER-high J)

Other:
+ DTW-OSN-TCM military charter (operated by 744)
+ N198DN (763ER-low J) exited ATL maintenance (10 days)
+ N862DA (772) exited ATL maintenance (15 days)

Aircraft change effective 11/16:
+ scheduled additional JFK-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-DTW-MCO-DTW-ATL sectors (763 replaces 752/753)
<> unscheduled aircraft swap on SLC-AMS sector (763ER-high J replaces 763ER-low J)

Seasonal adjustments:
<> JFK-BRU route switches from 763ER-low J to 763ER-high J effective 11/16

N667US (744) operating DL159 DTW-ICN on 11/16, had in-flight compressor stall, returned to DTW
N668US (744) operating ferry/positioning flight TCM-DTW DL8821 on 11/17 following military charter

N503DN (359) should be ferrying MSP-DTW today

Aircraft change effective 11/17:
+ scheduled additional JFK-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ scheduled additional ATL-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-LAS-ATL route (763 replaces 752)
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-MSP route (763ER-high J replaces 752)
+ unscheduled upgrade on DTW-CDG-DTW route (333 replaces 332)
+ MSP-LHR ferry flight (operated by 763ER-high J); passenger rescue
- unscheduled downgrade on DTW-AMS-DTW sectors (332 replaces 333)
<> unscheduled aircraft swap on AMS-SLC sector (763ER-high J replaces 763ER-low J)
<> unscheduled aircraft swap on CDG-SLC sector (763ER-low J replaces 763ER-high J)

Other:
+ DTW-MSN NCAA charter bringing the Wolverines to Wisconsin for Saturday's game (operated by 763)
+ CAE-SAT NCAA charter bringing the Thundering Herd??? to San Antonio for Saturday's game (operated by 764)
+ ATL-SEA NFL charter bringing the Falcons to Seattle for Monday's game (operated by 333)
+ N503DN (359) exited induction MSP-DTW (16 days) ; first scheduled flight 11/18 DTW-NRT

N501DN (359) is operating the first DTW-ICN A350 flight today Sat 11/18/17. For the next month, DTW-ICN alternatives A359 & B744 every other day.

DL8907 MSN-DTW B763 to bring back University of Michigan football team later this afternoon after they play Wisconson

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:

N667US (744) operating DL159 DTW-ICN on 11/16, had in-flight compressor stall, returned to DTW
N668US (744) operating ferry/positioning flight TCM-DTW DL8821 on 11/17 following military charter

N503DN (359) should be ferrying MSP-DTW today

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N667US

Looks like N667US is retiring after the incident?

hoons90 wrote:

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:

N667US (744) operating DL159 DTW-ICN on 11/16, had in-flight compressor stall, returned to DTW
N668US (744) operating ferry/positioning flight TCM-DTW DL8821 on 11/17 following military charter

N503DN (359) should be ferrying MSP-DTW today

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N667US

Looks like N667US is retiring after the incident?

It was scheduled to leave the fleet on the 1st, so I'm assuming they just decided to ferry it to the desert instead of putting a new engine on it for just a few days

777Mech wrote:

hoons90 wrote:

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:

N667US (744) operating DL159 DTW-ICN on 11/16, had in-flight compressor stall, returned to DTW
N668US (744) operating ferry/positioning flight TCM-DTW DL8821 on 11/17 following military charter

N503DN (359) should be ferrying MSP-DTW today

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N667US

Looks like N667US is retiring after the incident?

It was scheduled to leave the fleet on the 1st, so I'm assuming they just decided to ferry it to the desert instead of putting a new engine on it for just a few days

I'm guessing they got a 3-engine ferry permit, or don't they issue them any more. Would be a lot cheaper than having to sling another engine on it and then having to truck it back.

Capn wrote:

777Mech wrote:

hoons90 wrote:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N667US

Looks like N667US is retiring after the incident?

It was scheduled to leave the fleet on the 1st, so I'm assuming they just decided to ferry it to the desert instead of putting a new engine on it for just a few days

I'm guessing they got a 3-engine ferry permit, or don't they issue them any more. Would be a lot cheaper than having to sling another engine on it and then having to truck it back.

It was the #2 engine that went kaput, so it would have been an easier ferry than an outboard engine I assume

Aircraft change effective 11/18:
+ scheduled additional JFK-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ scheduled additional ATL-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ unscheduled upgrade on MSP-ATL route (763ER-high J replaces 752); aircraft repositioning
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-SJU-ATL route (763ER-low J replaces 752)
<> unscheduled aircraft swap on JFK-BRU route (763ER-low J replaces 763ER-high J)
<> unscheduled aircraft swap on JFK-FRA route (763ER-low J replaces 763ER-high J)

Seasonal adjustments:
- DTW-ICN route operated by 359 & 744 on alternate days effective 11/18 (previously operated by 744)

Other:
+ BWI-ATW NFL charter bringing the Ravens to Green Bay for Sunday's game (operated by 763)
+ CVG-DEN NFL charter bringing the Bengals to Denver for Sunday's game (operated by 333)
+ DTW-ORD NFL charter bringing the Lions to Chicago for Sunday's game (operated by 333)
+ BUF-LAX NFL charter bringing the Bills to Los Angeles for Sunday's game (operated by 744)

**** N667US (744) has been retired from service. Flew from DTW to MZJ on 11/18 ****

The 744 fleet remains at 5, flying DTW-ICN as well as some military & NFL charters.

Aircraft change effective 11/19:
+ scheduled additional JFK-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ scheduled additional ATL-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation

Other:
+ JFK-HHN-KWI-XJD military charter (operated by 764)
+ RIV-NKT military charter (operated by 333)
+ DTW-KWI-HHN-MSP-GRK military charter (operated by 744)

hkcanadaexpat wrote:

**** N667US (744) has been retired from service. Flew from DTW to MZJ on 11/18 ****

The 744 fleet remains at 5, flying DTW-ICN as well as some military & NFL charters.

Snapped a pic of 667 yesterday. As of now it is along the "active" row meaning it has yet to be parted or having components put in storage or sold. I doubt the latter will happen.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BbvAaNqlaET/?taken-by=kilomikechd

Aircraft change effective 11/20:
+ scheduled additional JFK-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ scheduled additional ATL-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ scheduled upgrade on BOS-ATL-BOS route (763ER-high J replaces 321)
+ scheduled upgrade on BOS-ATL-BOS route (333 replaces 321)
+ scheduled one-off DTW-LAX flight (operated by 333)
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-MCO route (764 replaces 321); aircraft rescue
+ ATL-LAX ferry flight (operated by 333): aircraft repositioning

Other:
+ RIV-SVN-RIV-SVN military charter (operated by 763)
+ RIV-NKT military charter (operated by 763)
+ N860DA (772) exited AMA painting (12 days)

Aircraft change effective 11/21:
+ scheduled additional JFK-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ scheduled additional ATL-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ scheduled additional one-off ATL-SLC sector (operated by 333)
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-DTW-ATL route (763 replaces 752)
+ unscheduled upgrade on MCO-ATL-MCO-ATL route (764 replaces 321)

hkcanadaexpat wrote:

+ scheduled additional one-off ATL-SLC sector (operated by 333)

It will also continue on to HNL

Aircraft change effective 11/22:
+ scheduled additional JFK-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ scheduled upgrade on BOS-ATL-BOS route (763ER-high J replaces 321)
+ scheduled one-off additional SLC-HNL segment (operated by 333)
<> unscheduled aircraft swap on JFK-ZRH route (763ER-low J replaces 763ER-high J)

Other:
+ MSP-DTW NFL charter bringing the Vikings to Detroit for Thursday's game (operated by 333)
+ LAX-DFW NFL charter bringing the Chargers to Dallas for Thursday's game (operated by 333)
+ RIV-NKT military charter (operated by 763)

Aircraft change effective 11/23:
+ scheduled additional JFK-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ scheduled additional ATL-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation

Other:
+ SBN-SFO NCAA charter bringing the Irish to Stanford for Saturday's game (operated by 763ER-low J)

¿How many widebodies have on order DL now?

pabloeing wrote:

¿How many widebodies have on order DL now?

25x A339s + 22x A359s

Aircraft change effective 11/24:
+ scheduled additional JFK-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ scheduled additional ATL-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-SAN-ATL route (763 replaces 753)
+ unscheduled upgrade on DTW-CDG route (333 replaces 332)
- unscheduled downgrade on DTW-AMS route (332 replaces 333)

Other:
+ N805NW (333) exited PVG maintenance (13 days)

hkcanadaexpat wrote:

Aircraft change effective 11/24:
+ scheduled additional JFK-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ scheduled additional ATL-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-SAN-ATL route (763 replaces 753)
+ unscheduled upgrade on DTW-CDG route (333 replaces 332)
- unscheduled downgrade on DTW-AMS route (332 replaces 333)

Other:
+ N805NW (333) exited PVG maintenance (13 days)

I guess that's one of the reason why Virgin Atlantic hasn't been bringing their A330-300s in ATL for the past 2½ months (Besides the issue with the few grounded 787-9).

Aircraft change effective 11/25:
+ scheduled additional JFK-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ scheduled additional ATL-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ scheduled additional JFK-ATL segment (operated by 763ER-low J)
+ scheduled upgrade on ATL-SAN-ATL route (763ER-high J replaces 739)
+ scheduled upgrade on ATL-RSW-ATL route (763ER-low J replaces 752)
+ scheduled upgrade on MCO-DTW-MCO route (764 replaces 753)
+ unscheduled upgrade on DTW-MSP route (763 replaces 752)
+ scheduled upgrade on ATL-DEN-ATL route (333 replaces MD90)
+ scheduled upgrade on ATL-PHX-ATL route (333 replaces 753)
+ BOS-JFK ferry flight (operated by 763ER-high J)
+ NRT-ATL ferry flight (operated by 333); maintenance exit
- unscheduled downgrade on JFK-LAX-ATL segments (763ER-high J replaces 764)

Other:
+ TPA-ATL NFL charter bringing the Bucks to Atlanta for Sunday's game (operated by 764)
+ BUF-MCI NFL charter bringing the Bills to Kansas City for Sunday's game (operated by 764)
+ GRB-PIT NFL charter bringing the Packers to Pittsburgh for Sunday's game (operated by 333)
+ SEA-SJC NFL charter bringing the Seahawks to San Francisco for Sunday's game (operated by 333)
+ N171DN (763ER-high J) exited ATL maintenance (7 days)

I kind of figured this was the best place to post this since its sort of widebody related.

I've noticed that Delta has been subbing the 747 in place of the 350 on a few DTW-ICN-DTW flights lately. Anyone know the reason for this? Thanks

jumbojet wrote:

I kind of figured this was the best place to post this since its sort of widebody related.

I've noticed that Delta has been subbing the 747 in place of the 350 on a few DTW-ICN-DTW flights lately. Anyone know the reason for this? Thanks

I believe that is scheduled until they receive their next delivery.

DTW-ICN is scheduled to alternate A350/B744 every other day until 12/15. Its been scheduled to be that way since they currently have 3 A350s in service at this time. Once the 4th A350 enters revenue service it will enable DTW-ICN to become fully operated by the A350 every day and subsequently lead to the retirement of the 744 for scheduled revenue service.

jbmitt wrote:

jumbojet wrote:

I kind of figured this was the best place to post this since its sort of widebody related.

I've noticed that Delta has been subbing the 747 in place of the 350 on a few DTW-ICN-DTW flights lately. Anyone know the reason for this? Thanks

I believe that is scheduled until they receive their next delivery.

I know that its alternating days but I got this info from another forum. the individual said his 350 was swapped for a 74. I guess its entirely possible that this person wasn't completely sure of the equipment they were flying on.

Whats weird is, when you check today's Delta 350 flight for DTW-ICN the flight results page shows the A350 but when you open the seat mapper, it shows the seat mapper for the 747. I guess that's just an IT glitch

jumbojet wrote:

jbmitt wrote:

jumbojet wrote:

I kind of figured this was the best place to post this since its sort of widebody related.

I've noticed that Delta has been subbing the 747 in place of the 350 on a few DTW-ICN-DTW flights lately. Anyone know the reason for this? Thanks

I believe that is scheduled until they receive their next delivery.

I know that its alternating days but I got this info from another forum. the individual said his 350 was swapped for a 74. I guess its entirely possible that this person wasn't completely sure of the equipment they were flying on.

Whats weird is, when you check today's Delta 350 flight for DTW-ICN the flight results page shows the A350 but when you open the seat mapper, it shows the seat mapper for the 747. I guess that's just an IT glitch

leaving DTW yesterday I saw a DL 747 parked by the old Smith terminal building. Maybe they're still using it for something?

edit: never mind, I just read the several posts up thread.

ASFlyer wrote:

jumbojet wrote:

jbmitt wrote:

I believe that is scheduled until they receive their next delivery.

I know that its alternating days but I got this info from another forum. the individual said his 350 was swapped for a 74. I guess its entirely possible that this person wasn't completely sure of the equipment they were flying on.

Whats weird is, when you check today's Delta 350 flight for DTW-ICN the flight results page shows the A350 but when you open the seat mapper, it shows the seat mapper for the 747. I guess that's just an IT glitch

leaving DTW yesterday I saw a DL 747 parked by the old Smith terminal building. Maybe they're still using it for something?

edit: never mind, I just read the several posts up thread.

From what was posted up-thread, there are still 5 active DL 747's. Two are obviously used for ICN and the other 3 must be for charter/military use.

N502DN just flew from DTW-CVG and is leaving shortly for MSP. I guess its getting in a few pilot training runs? Shouldn't this plane be getting ready for a flight over the Pacific, namely ICN?

N501DN is finishing up a NRT-DTW run and N503DN is in DTW flying to NRT in a few hours.

Tomorrow's DTW-ICN is on the 747 so if the pattern holds true and its alternating days, than today's DTW-ICN should be on the 350.

factsonly wrote:

Listed on FR24:

- 27 Nov Detroit (DTW) Seoul (ICN) B744 (N670US)
- 26 Nov Detroit (DTW) Seoul (ICN) B744 (N674US)
- 25 Nov Detroit (DTW) Seoul (ICN) B744 (N666US)
- 23 Nov Detroit (DTW) Seoul (ICN) A359 (N503DN)
- 21 Nov Detroit (DTW) Seoul (ICN) B744 (N670US)
- 20 Nov Detroit (DTW) Seoul (ICN) A359 (N503DN)
- 19 Nov Detroit (DTW) Seoul (ICN) B744 (N670US)

I still say that a 350 was swapped for a 747 on todays flight.

Listed on FR24:

- 03 Dec Detroit (DTW) Seoul (ICN) 744
- 02 Dec Detroit (DTW) Seoul (ICN) 359
- 01 Dec Detroit (DTW) Seoul (ICN) 744
- 30 Nov Detroit (DTW) Seoul (ICN) 359
- 28 Nov Detroit (DTW) Seoul (ICN) 359
- 27 Nov Detroit (DTW) Seoul (ICN) B744 (N670US)
- 26 Nov Detroit (DTW) Seoul (ICN) B744 (N674US)
- 25 Nov Detroit (DTW) Seoul (ICN) B744 (N666US)
- 23 Nov Detroit (DTW) Seoul (ICN) A359 (N503DN)
- 21 Nov Detroit (DTW) Seoul (ICN) B744 (N670US)
- 20 Nov Detroit (DTW) Seoul (ICN) A359 (N503DN)
- 19 Nov Detroit (DTW) Seoul (ICN) B744 (N670US)

Aircraft change effective 11/26:
+ scheduled additional JFK-LHR flight (operated by 764); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ scheduled additional ATL-LHR flight (operated by 763ER-high J); temporary replacement for a VS rotation
+ scheduled additional ATL-JFK segment (operated by 763ER-high J)
+ scheduled additional DTW-ATL segment (operated by 333)
+ scheduled additional HNL-SLC-DTW segments (operated by 333)
+ scheduled additional JFK-SLC-JFK flight (operated by 763ER-low J)
+ scheduled upgrade on ATL-SAN-ATL route (763 replaces 752)
+ scheduled upgrade on ATL-MSP-ATL route (763 replaces 752)
+ scheduled upgrade on ATL-SEA-ATL route (763 replaces 739)
+ scheduled upgrade on DTW-RSW-DTW route (763ER-high J replaces MD90)
+ scheduled upgrade on ATL-LAS-ATL route (763ER-low J replaces 752)
+ scheduled upgrade on MCO-DTW-MCO route (764 replaces 753)
+ scheduled upgrade on ATL-SEA-ATL route (772 replaces 752)
+ scheduled upgrade on ATL-DEN-ATL route (333 replaces 739)
+ scheduled upgrade on ATL-SLC-ATL route (333 replaces 739)
+ scheduled upgrade on ATL-SFO-DTW route (333 replaces 739)
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-PHX-ATL route (763 replaces 752)
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-JFK-ATL route (763ER-high J replaces 752)
+ unscheduled upgrade on ATL-PDX-ATL route (763ER-low J replaces 739)
<> unscheduled aircraft swap on ATL-NRT route (772 replaces 77L)
- unscheduled downgrade on ATL-LAX-ATL route (763ER-high J replaces 764)

Other:
+ N394DL exited ATL maintenance (8 days)
+ DTW-CVG-MSP-DTW training flight on 359 (N502DN)

jbmitt wrote:

jumbojet wrote:

I kind of figured this was the best place to post this since its sort of widebody related.

I've noticed that Delta has been subbing the 747 in place of the 350 on a few DTW-ICN-DTW flights lately. Anyone know the reason for this? Thanks

I believe that is scheduled until they receive their next delivery.

The next A350 is scheduled to be delivered on Nov. 30th to MSP, and then it will be approximately 2 weeks later when it enters revenue service, so just in time before the last B744 revenue flight from ICN>DTW on Dec. 17th!

jumbojet wrote:

Anyone know the reason for this?

Seems like a lack of aircraft. Right now they need all three frames, so these A350 extracurricular excursions are forcing a 747 sub.

jumbojet wrote:

I still say that a 350 was swapped for a 747 on todays flight.

It was. And it's scheduled to sub again on Tuesday.

MSPNWA wrote:

jumbojet wrote:

Anyone know the reason for this?

Seems like a lack of aircraft. Right now they need all three frames, so these A350 extracurricular excursions are forcing a 747 sub.

jumbojet wrote:

I still say that a 350 was swapped for a 747 on todays flight.

It was. And it's scheduled to sub again on Tuesday.

And DL doesn't know this ahead of time? DL knew way back that they would only have so many 350's to go around on these two routes to start. I intentionally booked a flight to ICN leaving this Thursday for the sole intention of flying on the 350 in the 'suite' seat. I fully realize that aircraft subs happen but I'll really be pissed if its swapped with the 74 though, I wouldn't mind one last ride on the queen of the skies, as long as the return flight next Monday stays a 350.

Begs another question, why all of a sudden is N502DN doing short domestic hops, sans passengers of course, between DTW-CVG-MSP-DTW etc...?

jumbojet wrote:

MSPNWA wrote:

jumbojet wrote:

Anyone know the reason for this?

Seems like a lack of aircraft. Right now they need all three frames, so these A350 extracurricular excursions are forcing a 747 sub.

jumbojet wrote:

I still say that a 350 was swapped for a 747 on todays flight.

It was. And it's scheduled to sub again on Tuesday.

And DL doesn't know this ahead of time? DL knew way back that they would only have so many 350's to go around on these two routes to start. I intentionally booked a flight to ICN leaving this Thursday for the sole intention of flying on the 350 in the 'suite' seat. I fully realize that aircraft subs happen but I'll really be pissed if its swapped with the 74 though, I wouldn't mind one last ride on the queen of the skies, as long as the return flight next Monday stays a 350.

Begs another question, why all of a sudden is N502DN doing short domestic hops, sans passengers of course, between DTW-CVG-MSP-DTW etc...?

The short domestic hops are for crew training.

jbs2886 wrote:

jumbojet wrote:

MSPNWA wrote:

Seems like a lack of aircraft. Right now they need all three frames, so these A350 extracurricular excursions are forcing a 747 sub.


It was. And it's scheduled to sub again on Tuesday.

And DL doesn't know this ahead of time? DL knew way back that they would only have so many 350's to go around on these two routes to start. I intentionally booked a flight to ICN leaving this Thursday for the sole intention of flying on the 350 in the 'suite' seat. I fully realize that aircraft subs happen but I'll really be pissed if its swapped with the 74 though, I wouldn't mind one last ride on the queen of the skies, as long as the return flight next Monday stays a 350.

Begs another question, why all of a sudden is N502DN doing short domestic hops, sans passengers of course, between DTW-CVG-MSP-DTW etc...?

The short domestic hops are for crew training.

I get that but DL didn't know that ahead of time? So now, they take a scheduled 350, the new flagship of the fleet, off of the ICN route and replace it with the antiquated 747? Sounds like piss poor planning to me.