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Re: The Rest of New England (BDL/PVD/MHT/PWM/ORH/BVT/HVN)

Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:47 pm

September numbers released for PVD.
http://www.pvdairport.com/documents/pas ... pdated.pdf
Pax up 6.25% for Sept 17 over Sept 16. YTD is 2,832,631 up 3.73% over the prior year.
Interestingly DY brought in almost as many pax as B6

I'll post the comparative stuff on the website later today, when i get a chance to update them. Overall decent month, DY have brought in 60K pax YTD and S4 were up 65%
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Re: The Rest of New England (BDL/PVD/MHT/PWM/ORH/BVT/HVN)

Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:21 pm

VS4ever wrote:
September numbers released for PVD.
http://www.pvdairport.com/documents/pas ... pdated.pdf
Pax up 6.25% for Sept 17 over Sept 16. YTD is 2,832,631 up 3.73% over the prior year.
Interestingly DY brought in almost as many pax as B6

I'll post the comparative stuff on the website later today, when i get a chance to update them. Overall decent month, DY have brought in 60K pax YTD and S4 were up 65%


Unofficially, I heard OCT was up over or close to 20% (I forgot which)

From October onward the cargo stats will be interesting to watch since service has more than doubled Y-O-Y thanks to Amazon.
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Re: The Rest of New England (BDL/PVD/MHT/PWM/ORH/BVT/HVN)

Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:54 pm

RL757PVD wrote:
VS4ever wrote:
September numbers released for PVD.
http://www.pvdairport.com/documents/pas ... pdated.pdf
Pax up 6.25% for Sept 17 over Sept 16. YTD is 2,832,631 up 3.73% over the prior year.
Interestingly DY brought in almost as many pax as B6

I'll post the comparative stuff on the website later today, when i get a chance to update them. Overall decent month, DY have brought in 60K pax YTD and S4 were up 65%


Unofficially, I heard OCT was up over or close to 20% (I forgot which)

I hope so, and i am sure you have better information than me on that subject :)

From October onward the cargo stats will be interesting to watch since service has more than doubled Y-O-Y thanks to Amazon.


I need to go back and see if I can do the cargo stats, but i know a couple of months had info missing on the site, do you know someone on the finance team (if you are close enough to them) that might be able to help me out?
I would LOVE to see that huge increase in cargo!
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Re: The Rest of New England (BDL/PVD/MHT/PWM/ORH/BVT/HVN)

Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:52 pm

well, the general theory was that this would never happen. But the news is out ORH-JFK will start in May 18
http://www.masslive.com/news/worcester/ ... ester.html

Flights are bookable, starts 5/4/18 (article says 5/3, but that's not available as far as I can tell on Jetblue.com)
B6671 ORH 6.04-7.00 JFK E190 D
B6676 JFK 10.45-11.50 ORH E190 D

I've just seen an intro fare of $24 one way for a flight on 5/10, some crazy low ones that's for sure... Interesting times.. Nice timing into JFK for connections elsewhere, which let's be honest is really what this flight would be about, rather than straight O&D.
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Re: The Rest of New England (BDL/PVD/MHT/PWM/ORH/BVT/HVN)

Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:01 pm

VS4ever wrote:
well, the general theory was that this would never happen. But the news is out ORH-JFK will start in May 18
http://www.masslive.com/news/worcester/ ... ester.html

Flights are bookable, starts 5/4/18 (article says 5/3, but that's not available as far as I can tell on Jetblue.com)
B6671 ORH 6.04-7.00 JFK E190 D
B6676 JFK 10.45-11.50 ORH E190 D

I've just seen an intro fare of $24 one way for a flight on 5/10, some crazy low ones that's for sure... Interesting times.. Nice timing into JFK for connections elsewhere, which let's be honest is really what this flight would be about, rather than straight O&D.


This is definitely a connecting route rather than O&D. The JFK-ORH leg is somewhat not ideal for most trans cons, and most Caribbean destinations. Seems to work best for Florida and maybe some red-eyes trans cons. An interesting route for sure, and not one I ever anticipated seeing. It seems they keep moving more of the E190s to shorter legs.

EDIT: the return is in the PM. That works much better.
 
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Re: The Rest of New England (BDL/PVD/MHT/PWM/ORH/BVT/HVN)

Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:30 pm

That will teach me for reading straight off the B6 website. You are correct return flight is
B6676 ORH 22.45-23.50 JFK E190 D
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Re: The Rest of New England (BDL/PVD/MHT/PWM/ORH/BVT/HVN)

Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:08 pm

Flight from JFK to ORH starts the 3rd, again crazy $24 one way!, first flight from ORH is the 4th. Plane looks like it will overnight here. Leaves at 6:30 AM, which is a bit early for my tastes, but would basically allow a full day in NYC without having to stay overnight. If they could keep those $24 fares I beta number of college kids will be looking for day trips.
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Re: The Rest of New England (BDL/PVD/MHT/PWM/ORH/BVT/HVN)

Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:30 pm

Ahhh of course, need the positioning flight up from JFK. Not sure those $24 will last but worth snagging if you can
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Re: The Rest of New England (BDL/PVD/MHT/PWM/ORH/BVT/HVN)

Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:50 pm

October 2017 Bradley International Airport Passengers-

Total Passengers-

October 2017- 572,237 +6%
October 2016- 539,783

Jan-Oct 2017- 5,364,121 +6.6%
Jan-Oct 2016- 5,032,558

Domestic by Airline October 2017-

American- 146,213
Southwest- 123,709
Delta- 119,606
jetBlue- 73,455
United- 72,349
Spirit- 20,925
Onejet- 496

International by Airline October 2017-

Aer Lingus- 7,913 (start of 4x weekly service)
Air Canada- 5,314
Norwegian- 2,257
 
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Re: The Rest of New England (BDL/PVD/MHT/PWM/ORH/BVT/HVN)

Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:03 am

uconn99 wrote:
October 2017 Bradley International Airport Passengers-

Total Passengers-

October 2017- 572,237 +6%
October 2016- 539,783

Jan-Oct 2017- 5,364,121 +6.6%
Jan-Oct 2016- 5,032,558

Domestic by Airline October 2017-

American- 146,213
Southwest- 123,709
Delta- 119,606
jetBlue- 73,455
United- 72,349
Spirit- 20,925
Onejet- 496

International by Airline October 2017-

Aer Lingus- 7,913 (start of 4x weekly service)
Air Canada- 5,314
Norwegian- 2,257


That's a very nice set of results for October. I've added them to my comparatives, so you can see the progression from 14-17.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B61t8 ... VRWdmc5SkE
On a rolling 12 month basis, numbers are up 6.3% combined for a total of 380K increase and running at 5.36m YTD and 6.39m Rolling 12 months.

Everyone was up except for B6 who are 0.2% down.
Biggest increases:

NK 121K
AA 90K
EI 75K
UA 58K
D8 15K
WN 11K

on a monthly basis up 6% year on year and up 14.3% against 2014 numbers. with 72K more through the doors or 2,300 pax a day. sadly they don't report movements, so can't do anything on load factors to this point, but nonetheless, that's quite some growth taking place right now.

Also should note EI were up 13.4% year over year (937 pax)

Nicely done BDL, nicely done!
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Re: The Rest of New England (BDL/PVD/MHT/PWM/ORH/BVT/HVN)

Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:05 pm

And as if by magic, hot on the heels of BDL. PVD announced their October results
http://www.pvdairport.com/documents/pas ... 202017.pdf

18.6% up year over year and 5.3% up YTD at 3.217m
DL up 2.4%
B6 up 3.2%
WN up 3%
F9 was 39K pax for the month (getting close to the same size as DL)
D8 was 14K

and as expected ATI (Amazon) arrived and blew out UPS in the first month with over 1m LBS of freight and are close to Fed Ex

Who is Atlas flying for, is that Amazon too? If so, they go straight to #1 for the month! :)

Website will be updated later, because I am currently 25 minutes out of MCO on my morning BOS-MCO run..

Enjoy.
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Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:29 pm

This is the first time in decades (if not ever) that October beat out the summer months at PVD (obviously due to the G4 and F9 adds)
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Re: The Rest of New England (BDL/PVD/MHT/PWM/ORH/BVT/HVN)

Sun Dec 31, 2017 2:28 pm

Per airline routes, UA is adding seasonal San Francisco – Hartford route from 07JUN18 to 20AUG18.

Appears to be a red eye from SFO with early morning return from BDL on a 739.
BOS-LGA-JFK | A:319/20/21, 332/3, 346 || B:717, 735, 737, 738, 739, 752, 753, 762, 763, 764, 787, 772, 744 || MD80, MD90
 
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Re: The Rest of New England (BDL/PVD/MHT/PWM/ORH/BVT/HVN)

Sun Dec 31, 2017 2:55 pm

Small potatoes next to the BOS/PVD and BDL news, but HVN has finished up its first month of CRJ operations since the retirement of the Piedmont Dash 8s.

Many were fearful of heavy payload restrictions, but even with the use of the less desirable runway, they've been OK, according to the Tweed Facts FB page .. and the loads have been very good too !

They've even had several CRJ-700 substitutions in for the usual-200. Here's hoping for more 700s and perhaps a CLT route too, as the CRJ700 with his better short-field performance is the only plane capable to handle it for HVN.

Not a big deal to most, but this makes us local HVN people happy -- its a nice step up from the old Dash 8-100s !

Now ... if we can get something done with that dive of a terminal ! ;)
 
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Re: The Rest of New England (BDL/PVD/MHT/PWM/ORH/BVT/HVN)

Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:04 pm

tlecam wrote:
Per airline routes, UA is adding seasonal San Francisco – Hartford route from 07JUN18 to 20AUG18.

Appears to be a red eye from SFO with early morning return from BDL on a 739.


They ran it last year too but per the BDL stats, the loads were ok at best on the A319, so a 739 seems overkill.
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Re: The Rest of New England (BDL/PVD/MHT/PWM/ORH/BVT/HVN)

Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:37 pm

F27500 wrote:
Small potatoes next to the BOS/PVD and BDL news, but HVN has finished up its first month of CRJ operations since the retirement of the Piedmont Dash 8s.

Many were fearful of heavy payload restrictions, but even with the use of the less desirable runway, they've been OK, according to the Tweed Facts FB page .. and the loads have been very good too !

They've even had several CRJ-700 substitutions in for the usual-200. Here's hoping for more 700s and perhaps a CLT route too, as the CRJ700 with his better short-field performance is the only plane capable to handle it for HVN.

Not a big deal to most, but this makes us local HVN people happy -- its a nice step up from the old Dash 8-100s !

Now ... if we can get something done with that dive of a terminal ! ;)


Many AA HVN-PHL flights have been full and I am sure other carriers are watching HVN's numbers. I am hoping for UA to start HVN-IAD flights and a long shot in having DL HVN-BOS flights as DL has a large presence at BOS. Until the runway issue is settled in the up coming court case, there are only a few hub airports that will work for HVN. The next step would be for AA to add a forth flight.
 
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Re: The Rest of New England (BDL/PVD/MHT/PWM/ORH/BVT/HVN)

Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:03 pm

Just my opinion but if DL serves HVN, it would most likely be ATL or DTW versus BOS. Amtrak provides ample service to Boston from the CT shoreline.
 
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Re: The Rest of New England (BDL/PVD/MHT/PWM/ORH/BVT/HVN)

Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:04 pm

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Just my opinion but if DL serves HVN, it would most likely be ATL or DTW versus BOS. Amtrak provides ample service to Boston from the CT shoreline.


With HVN's current runway, both of those hubs would not work with CRJ-200's, might work with CRJ-700's, but too iffy. While Amtrak provides service to Boston, flights to Logan would be a one stop connection to many cities served by DL. If Boston is your final destination, the train is fine.
 
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Re: The Rest of New England (BDL/PVD/MHT/PWM/ORH/BVT/HVN)

Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:15 pm

cheapgreek wrote:
PVD757 wrote:
Just my opinion but if DL serves HVN, it would most likely be ATL or DTW versus BOS. Amtrak provides ample service to Boston from the CT shoreline.


With HVN's current runway, both of those hubs would not work with CRJ-200's, might work with CRJ-700's, but too iffy. While Amtrak provides service to Boston, flights to Logan would be a one stop connection to many cities served by DL. If Boston is your final destination, the train is fine.


Nah .. the heck with BOS .. too much of a mess. Just like EWR or JFK as a connecting point. And I don't think DL has that much of a hub in BOS that would fill RJs as feeders. Plus who wanna fly northeast to connect and go south?

My hope is still with AA doing a CRJ700 route to CLT. That would be a winner . AA has a great presence in CLT and a ton of connections from there.

DL to ATL would be amazing too, of course. As would JetBlue EMB190 to MCO/FLL like they are doing in ORH .. but I'm getting a bit ahead of myself here! ;)

Small steps! I'm just happy for the step that was just taken and that those Dashes are finally gone.
 
 
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Re: The Rest of New England (BDL/PVD/MHT/PWM/ORH/BVT/HVN)

Mon Jan 01, 2018 1:14 am

I realize the press doesn't know shinola about aviation but what does it mean that they were transferred to a plane that was better able to handle the snowy conditions?
 
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Re: The Rest of New England (BDL/PVD/MHT/PWM/ORH/BVT/HVN)

Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:01 pm

F27500 wrote:
Small potatoes next to the BOS/PVD and BDL news, but HVN has finished up its first month of CRJ operations since the retirement of the Piedmont Dash 8s.

Many were fearful of heavy payload restrictions, but even with the use of the less desirable runway, they've been OK, according to the Tweed Facts FB page .. and the loads have been very good too !

They've even had several CRJ-700 substitutions in for the usual-200. Here's hoping for more 700s and perhaps a CLT route too, as the CRJ700 with his better short-field performance is the only plane capable to handle it for HVN.

Not a big deal to most, but this makes us local HVN people happy -- its a nice step up from the old Dash 8-100s !

Now ... if we can get something done with that dive of a terminal ! ;)


I like the terminal!

As an uber driver I concur. I get fares off every flight that comes in and even out of Yale season it's still busy! Have they been running CR7 just to check short field performance? Any word in payload restrictions on either plane to PHL? What would be the payload restrictions on CLT should it start now?

Remember DL ran CVG on a CR2 in the 2000s so it's not entirely impossible...

One issue with the short field is weather. Normally, not an issue but a few weeks ago there were low ceilings and a windy rain storm...the plane tried to land but aborted just feet from the runway. With ATC leaving for the night they deemed it unsafe and returned to PHL. Other than thst night I haven't hear I'd any issues that would not effect other airports as well.
 
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Re: The Rest of New England (BDL/PVD/MHT/PWM/ORH/BVT/HVN)

Mon Jan 01, 2018 5:13 pm

cheapgreek wrote:
F27500 wrote:
Small potatoes next to the BOS/PVD and BDL news, but HVN has finished up its first month of CRJ operations since the retirement of the Piedmont Dash 8s.

Many were fearful of heavy payload restrictions, but even with the use of the less desirable runway, they've been OK, according to the Tweed Facts FB page .. and the loads have been very good too !

They've even had several CRJ-700 substitutions in for the usual-200. Here's hoping for more 700s and perhaps a CLT route too, as the CRJ700 with his better short-field performance is the only plane capable to handle it for HVN.

Not a big deal to most, but this makes us local HVN people happy -- its a nice step up from the old Dash 8-100s !

Now ... if we can get something done with that dive of a terminal ! ;)


Many AA HVN-PHL flights have been full and I am sure other carriers are watching HVN's numbers. I am hoping for UA to start HVN-IAD flights and a long shot in having DL HVN-BOS flights as DL has a large presence at BOS. Until the runway issue is settled in the up coming court case, there are only a few hub airports that will work for HVN. The next step would be for AA to add a forth flight.



Can you post some numbers showing the loads?
 
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Re: The Rest of New England (BDL/PVD/MHT/PWM/ORH/BVT/HVN)

Mon Jan 01, 2018 5:37 pm

uconn99 wrote:
cheapgreek wrote:
F27500 wrote:
Small potatoes next to the BOS/PVD and BDL news, but HVN has finished up its first month of CRJ operations since the retirement of the Piedmont Dash 8s.

Many were fearful of heavy payload restrictions, but even with the use of the less desirable runway, they've been OK, according to the Tweed Facts FB page .. and the loads have been very good too !

They've even had several CRJ-700 substitutions in for the usual-200. Here's hoping for more 700s and perhaps a CLT route too, as the CRJ700 with his better short-field performance is the only plane capable to handle it for HVN.

Not a big deal to most, but this makes us local HVN people happy -- its a nice step up from the old Dash 8-100s !

Now ... if we can get something done with that dive of a terminal ! ;)


Many AA HVN-PHL flights have been full and I am sure other carriers are watching HVN's numbers. I am hoping for UA to start HVN-IAD flights and a long shot in having DL HVN-BOS flights as DL has a large presence at BOS. Until the runway issue is settled in the up coming court case, there are only a few hub airports that will work for HVN. The next step would be for AA to add a forth flight.


Can you post some numbers showing the loads?


The 700's were due to maintenance issues with the 200's and as far as numbers, some flights had all 50 seats sold and many had over 40 seats filled in both directions. Its been a little over a month since the flights started and the response has been very good. Talking with a PSA pilot who said the 700 was the most capable of all the CRJ series off short runways. There remains several issues regarding HVN, the pending court case regarding the runway and there are still some trees that need to come down but the land owners are balking, might come down to eminent domain or something like that to remove obstructions in the flight path. Once the runway is upgraded, AA will probably add CLT at first and I expect DL to come in with flights to DTW and or ATL. NW in the past tried twice to start HVN-DTW flights with two different types of airliners and the runway was deal breaker. DL corporate has many NW execs and HVN may still be on DL's future list for new service.
There is a very large market and demand for air travel in the New Haven metro area and drawing a circle 10 miles around the airport reveals a large population base to draw from. I am hoping for a court victory to allow HVN to become a true regional airport for the area and stop the leaking of passengers to other airports. Greater New Haven travelers deserve better and a valuable asset being HVN needs to be allowed to reach its potential.
 
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