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Is Anyone Else Upset With Airliners Magazine?

Sat Feb 23, 2002 9:29 am

I may not be renewing my subscription after these past two issues.

In issue 73... Page 13. On Approach.

The next issue of Airliners will feature Minnesota Based Sun Country Airlines, as it continues transitioning to a new fleet and livery. Ralph Olson reports on the history of John Wayne Airport in Orange Country (????COUNTY MAYBE!) and brings us up to date on its plans for the future.

Ok, the spelling error isnt a big deal. What is a big deal is in this latest issue, there is no story about Orange County. Maybe they are holding off for the El Toro vote March 5th, but, they should have known that months in advance. Now, I get the new issue and a huge story of how Sun Country is done like TWA is done... Well, they jumped the gun on that one didnt they? Sun Country isnt done, and they are starting scheduled service once again. I hope they sincerely apologize for that mistake. They wrote them off quicker than flies stick to $hit.

I may have to subscribe to a non bi-monthly magazine.. Airways after this. I am very dissapointed as I have been an avid Airliners magazine reader for years. This has got to be the most embarrassing thing that could have happened. Maybe they should start putting out monthly?

 
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RE: Is Anyone Else Upset With Airliners Magazine?

Sat Feb 23, 2002 9:32 am

I don't know if it's just me, but I've been seeing fewer and fewer good airport profiles in Airliners the past year. I haven't bought it for several issues now because of that. Airways doesn't seem to have as many good airport profiles either, though they did manage to get a good profile of Heathrow in the most recent issue. Airliner World seems to be the only one that dependably has good airport profiles these days, and they often have more than one.

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RE: Is Anyone Else Upset With Airliners Magazine?

Sat Feb 23, 2002 9:42 am

I must say that I do think that Airliners shoud go monthly, but about the mistake they will apologize in the next issue. I subscribe to both Airways and Airliners and I must say that they are both good magazines.
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RE: Is Anyone Else Upset With Airliners Magazine?

Sat Feb 23, 2002 9:49 am

I think Airliners and Airways used to be on par with one another. Now however, it seems to me that Airways is taking the lead. They have better aritcles and more updated news. Airliners seems to have fallen behind. I just bought the new issue today and it completely sucks. The news they report on is already old news by the time it hits the shelves. The should update their magazine and make it monthly.
 
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RE: Is Anyone Else Upset With Airliners Magazine?

Sat Feb 23, 2002 9:51 am

Airliners has never been the same since John Wegg left
and started 'Airways'

It immediately eclipsed 'airliners' in every area and has remained far superior.

In my opinion 'Airliners is now a very dry boring publication.

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RE: Is Anyone Else Upset With Airliners Magazine?

Sat Feb 23, 2002 9:54 am

Agreed!!
 
Sinlock
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RE: Is Anyone Else Upset With Airliners Magazine?

Sat Feb 23, 2002 11:15 am

I did not renew this year.

So I took the 40 bucks I send to them and used it to upgrade to a real magazine.

I'm now a proud owner of a subscription to AW&ST.
 
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RE: Is Anyone Else Upset With Airliners Magazine?

Sat Feb 23, 2002 11:46 am

Sinlock. You PAY for AW&ST? A good magazine, yes indeed. But with a little thought it can be gotten for free.
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RE: Is Anyone Else Upset With Airliners Magazine?

Sat Feb 23, 2002 1:42 pm

hell i remember when Airliners was seasonal, just 4 issues a year. Yes they do need to go monthly like their British Counterpart Airliner World and Airways.

I haven't renewed my subscription yet to Airliners either after having it since summer of 1992. I will though one of these days.
 
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RE: Is Anyone Else Upset With Airliners Magazine?

Sat Feb 23, 2002 1:49 pm

yea, airliners did a whole five page thing on Legend Airlines last year. Going on and on. Legend this legend that. Too bad it hit the news stand a month after the went bankrupt and shut down.
 
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RE: Is Anyone Else Upset With Airliners Magazine?

Sat Feb 23, 2002 3:09 pm

I agree- I used to hate Airways, but now, compared to Airliners, it's highest on my list. I don't know what happened, but the articles are starting to become more vague and "the material that reader's don't want to read anymore!!!" Every single time I open Airliners I see that stupid 707 advertisement on the front cover. Every single time I see the same adds. Every single time since I subscribed I am disapointed. Furthermore, they spend a chunk of time creating OLD NEWS, decreasing its accuracy by every day. READERS DON'T WANT TO READ OLD NEWS, IF ANYONE HASN'T FIGURED THAT OUT YET!!! It's downright obnoxious and uninformitive and will give you the wrong idea.

Looking at the latest issues- Airways- "Flying the Tripple Seven." Now that's the kind of title that makes you go "Ooh! Flying the best of the best." That's the kind of article you want to read. In Airliners- the Legend thing as some of you mentioned before. It does not take 5 pages to create a review of an airline. Maybe 4, but when you go on and on with anything the reader gets bored and doesn't want to have anything to do with you anymore. Even in the latest issue of Airliners- SunCountry. SunCountry this SunCountry that. "After 9-11." Can you say "discussed to death?!" The point of a magazine and any other article of media giving the reader news is to have NEW news THAT HAS NOT BEEN DISCUSSED TO DEATH!!! 9-11 is over. It has already happened. Sure it was a bad thing, but we have to move on. Here we are in Feb. 02 discussing Sept. 01. Looking at it again- a 10 page article on Spantax!!! It does not take 10 pages to review and airline. Sure the pictures take up a lot of space, but still- 10 pages makes the reader think, "SKIP ARTICLE!" Yes, sometimes the articles are informative, but you don't want to be too informative at the same time! That bores the reader.

Maybe some of you love Airliners for what it is. Maybe some others love Airways instead. However, I must say I have been dissapointed in Airliners since I subscribed. That's just my opinion.

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RE: Is Anyone Else Upset With Airliners Magazine?

Sat Feb 23, 2002 3:15 pm

Actually, has anyone noticed that being on the cover of Airliners is actually some sort of omen? They've had Reno Air, WinAir, WestPac, and now SunCountry - the previous three right before they went away. I think there's a couple more too, but can't think of them right off the top of my head. The funniest part is the article's all about how the airline's doing well, and expects to grow, etc. etc.
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RE: Is Anyone Else Upset With Airliners Magazine?

Sat Feb 23, 2002 3:24 pm

My subscription to Airways was supposed to start this month but I have yet to get it. They told me it was going to be sent on Valentine's Day. I have a feeling they will be getting a phone call from me on Monday since all of you seem to have got it.

Take it from someone who works in the journalism industry, sometimes stories are promoted and then not run for reasons beyond a publishers control. I'm sure if it was not run there is a good reason for it.
 
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RE: Is Anyone Else Upset With Airliners Magazine?

Sat Feb 23, 2002 3:35 pm

Sun Country hasnt gone away.. Thats what this thread was about.. I mean, come on... SC isnt done and Airliners Mag wrote them off!

 
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RE: Is Anyone Else Upset With Airliners Magazine?

Sat Feb 23, 2002 5:17 pm

My only issue with Airliners is their constant attention to old time propliners. I realize it represents a certain nostalgia to certain readers, but there is a very limited market for those who want to read about the Martin 404 in the 1950s.

Connies, DC-6s and Convairs were great, but it seems almost half the mag is devoted to that era.

buhh bye