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Re: AF66 CDG-LAX (A388-F-HPJE) diverts to Goose Bay (YYR) with an uncontained engine failure to #4 engine

Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:14 pm

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If it's at FL410, it's got all four engines running.

3 engine ferry flights are not limited to 10,000 ft TMK (unless there is also a pressurization issue), but it might have been required to stay out of the "tracks".

Yep; I've fixed that already - it was just a speed restriction below FL100. I kinda knew it didn't make sense, which is why I checked my facts as quick as I could. Unfortunately I had already posted the wrong info.... :lol:
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Re: AF66 CDG-LAX (A388-F-HPJE) diverts to Goose Bay (YYR) with an uncontained engine failure to #4 engine

Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:46 pm

It ha to be operating with all four engines. FL410 at 513 kts ground speed? There's no way it's on a dead engine. Impossible. It would be down to 30,000 at the highest on 3 engines.
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Re: AF66 CDG-LAX (A388-F-HPJE) diverts to Goose Bay (YYR) with an uncontained engine failure to #4 engine

Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:12 pm

Siren wrote:
It ha to be operating with all four engines. FL410 at 513 kts ground speed? There's no way it's on a dead engine. Impossible. It would be down to 30,000 at the highest on 3 engines.


Actually, looking at performance on a 744 (I don't have the A380 info) based on the extremely light weight it will be at -- no passengers, baggage, etc and fuel for a fairly short trip -- FL350-370 could be achievable. There is a difference between drifting down to/climbing up to an altitude but its minimal.
 
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Re: AF66 CDG-LAX (A388-F-HPJE) diverts to Goose Bay (YYR) with an uncontained engine failure to #4 engine

Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:43 pm

Just another update at 20:30
F-HPJE is overhead the south of England, maybe 40 miles SW from LGW, still at 41,000 ft.

With clear skies and a bright moon, somebody with sharp eyesight might even be able to detect four vapour trails.

Correction; crossing the south coast now, passing overhead Brighton, and just beginning it's descent with 270km to go.
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Re: AF66 CDG-LAX (A388-F-HPJE) diverts to Goose Bay (YYR) with an uncontained engine failure to #4 engine

Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:46 pm

Looking forward to seeing a picture of her back at CDG.
 
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Re: AF66 CDG-LAX (A388-F-HPJE) diverts to Goose Bay (YYR) with an uncontained engine failure to #4 engine

Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:47 pm

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Looks like A380 is being ferried from Goose Bay to Paris today (Dec 6, 2017). It is currently in flight.

You don't say.

(Look at the past 10 or so responses.)
 
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Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:11 pm

She's nearly home in France
 
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Re: AF66 CDG-LAX (A388-F-HPJE) diverts to Goose Bay (YYR) with an uncontained engine failure to #4 engine

Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:54 pm

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citationjet wrote:
Looks like A380 is being ferried from Goose Bay to Paris today (Dec 6, 2017). It is currently in flight.

You don't say.

(Look at the past 10 or so responses.)


It might not be the poster. There is an issue with sequences of postings probably depending on time zone/browser. I have posted before and when I checked a couple of hours later there are a number of new postings appearing ahead of me.
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Re: AF66 CDG-LAX (A388-F-HPJE) diverts to Goose Bay (YYR) with an uncontained engine failure to #4 engine

Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:27 am

AngMoh wrote:
D L X wrote:
citationjet wrote:
Looks like A380 is being ferried from Goose Bay to Paris today (Dec 6, 2017). It is currently in flight.

You don't say.

(Look at the past 10 or so responses.)


It might not be the poster. There is an issue with sequences of postings probably depending on time zone/browser. I have posted before and when I checked a couple of hours later there are a number of new postings appearing ahead of me.

And... there's the case where the mods merge two threads together which happens a lot when people open multiple threads on the same topic.
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Re: AF66 CDG-LAX (A388-F-HPJE) diverts to Goose Bay (YYR) with an uncontained engine failure to #4 engine

Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:02 pm

Not the best quality but here is the a/c with its replacement engine installed, before heading to CDG:

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Re: AF66 CDG-LAX (A388-F-HPJE) diverts to Goose Bay (YYR) with an uncontained engine failure to #4 engine

Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:31 pm

Who needs Google, when you have KarelXWB. But seriously, thanks for all your contributions. Very much appreciated.

Looks like this bird will be back in service soon.
 
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Re: AF66 CDG-LAX (A388-F-HPJE) diverts to Goose Bay (YYR) with an uncontained engine failure to #4 engine

Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:54 pm

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sharles wrote:
Another reason to not certify "pure" three engine ferry on the A380: when the 747 was developed, engine reliability was way lower, so there was a better cost/benefit ratio. With the A380, it IMHO was deemed an unnecessary expense to certify the engine removed case, while the engine disabled case was a lower extra expense.


If by "pure" you mean "no engine attached", I don't think anybody ever certified that (in modern history), including Boeing for the 747.


If I'm reading the description in this photo correctly, it has happened at least once with a 747.

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Re: AF66 CDG-LAX (A388-F-HPJE) diverts to Goose Bay (YYR) with an uncontained engine failure to #4 engine

Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:44 pm

The only 45 minutes I've ever spent in Goose Bay, and I happened to catch F-HPJE / AF66 / AF371V departing in the snow. Sorry for the quality, it was rushed:

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Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:26 pm

Pontius wrote:
The only 45 minutes I've ever spent in Goose Bay, and I happened to catch F-HPJE / AF66 / AF371V departing in the snow.

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Re: AF66 CDG-LAX (A388-F-HPJE) diverts to Goose Bay (YYR) with an uncontained engine failure to #4 engine

Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:46 am

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... da-443971/

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Air France tells FlightGlobal that its own crew, rather than Airbus personnel, flew the aircraft back to Paris Charles de Gaulle on 6 December. It landed around 22:00.

The aircraft has been taken to the H6 hangar at the airport, a facility which was specifically designed for A380 maintenance.
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Re: AF66 CDG-LAX (A388-F-HPJE) diverts to Goose Bay (YYR) with an uncontained engine failure to #4 engine

Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:51 pm

Pontius wrote:
The only 45 minutes I've ever spent in Goose Bay, and I happened to catch F-HPJE / AF66 / AF371V departing in the snow. Sorry for the quality, it was rushed:

Amazing!
 
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Re: AF66 CDG-LAX (A388-F-HPJE) diverts to Goose Bay (YYR) with an uncontained engine failure to #4 engine

Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:28 pm

F-HPJE is scheduled to return to service by mid-January 2018
 
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Re: AF66 CDG-LAX (A388-F-HPJE) diverts to Goose Bay (YYR) with an uncontained engine failure to #4 engine

Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:33 pm

WIederling wrote:
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/air-france-retrieves-stranded-a380-from-canada-443971/

FG wrote:
Air France tells FlightGlobal that its own crew, rather than Airbus personnel, flew the aircraft back to Paris Charles de Gaulle on 6 December. It landed around 22:00.

The aircraft has been taken to the H6 hangar at the airport, a facility which was specifically designed for A380 maintenance.


Article also states the aircraft will undergo checks for a few weeks before returning to service. So not fully repaired yet.
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