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Re: LH introduces revised livery

Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:36 pm

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na wrote:
Having seen D-ABYA in person I must say that there are several details I like about the new livery:
1. all-white wings: unique among airlines, and it will make LH planes even more recognizable from the ground than the "Spiegelei" did. I never understood why airlines do not treat the wings as part of the livery. Its great LH does so and it really underlines the airlines well-founded premium approach perfectly!
2. the new blue is a very classy shade.
3. the white leading edge of the tailfin with the smart curve at the top.
4. the new font/titles. Subtle, timeless, yet efficient and modern evolution of the ages-old Helvetica.

Its these fine details which make a classy livery out of a basically unexciting design. I am usually not a big fan of overly simple liveries, and I dislike JAL and especially China Eastern who have no such smart details at all in their designs.

The old livery now appears indeed old to me. I only still miss a bit of yellow somewhere.
Imho, overall the LH redesign has been very well executed.



I noticed the wings and wondered if they were really white or if it was just the lighting.
I think the white wings are a great touch. Looking forward to seeing new livery in person :)



If I´m not mistaken,
the wings have always been white, at least on the upper surface, the lower being painted the same shade of grey as the belly and engines.
In this respect LH has always had a very well thought and executed livery.
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:42 pm

Is there any detail on the underside of the wings or fuselage, i.e., a la Emirates and Delta?
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:46 pm

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LH emphasizes that yellow colors will not be removed in the cabin.

Even Spohr is wearing yellow socks at the unveiling ceremony this evening.

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Re: LH introduces revised livery

Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:52 pm

steman wrote:
Sooner787 wrote:
na wrote:
Having seen D-ABYA in person I must say that there are several details I like about the new livery:
1. all-white wings: unique among airlines, and it will make LH planes even more recognizable from the ground than the "Spiegelei" did. I never understood why airlines do not treat the wings as part of the livery. Its great LH does so and it really underlines the airlines well-founded premium approach perfectly!
2. the new blue is a very classy shade.
3. the white leading edge of the tailfin with the smart curve at the top.
4. the new font/titles. Subtle, timeless, yet efficient and modern evolution of the ages-old Helvetica.

Its these fine details which make a classy livery out of a basically unexciting design. I am usually not a big fan of overly simple liveries, and I dislike JAL and especially China Eastern who have no such smart details at all in their designs.

The old livery now appears indeed old to me. I only still miss a bit of yellow somewhere.
Imho, overall the LH redesign has been very well executed.



I noticed the wings and wondered if they were really white or if it was just the lighting.
I think the white wings are a great touch. Looking forward to seeing new livery in person :)



If I´m not mistaken,
the wings have always been white, at least on the upper surface, the lower being painted the same shade of grey as the belly and engines.
In this respect LH has always had a very well thought and executed livery.


Hasn't Lufthansa's 744 fleet sported white wings before, at least the Star Alliance painted one anyway ? And don't BA and other 787 operators have white wings on those ? BA predecessor BEA did of course have red wings too, back in the day.
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:53 pm

I know 787 wings are white, not sure about the others you mentioned
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:03 pm

how can i attach pictures to my post? i have two pictures of D-ABYA flying over Bremen Airport in new livery
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:35 pm

JAL 787 wings are white top and bottom.
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:22 pm

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I know 787 wings are white, not sure about the others you mentioned

No, they are standard Boeing light gray.
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:24 pm

JannEejit wrote:
steman wrote:
Sooner787 wrote:


I noticed the wings and wondered if they were really white or if it was just the lighting.
I think the white wings are a great touch. Looking forward to seeing new livery in person :)



If I´m not mistaken,
the wings have always been white, at least on the upper surface, the lower being painted the same shade of grey as the belly and engines.
In this respect LH has always had a very well thought and executed livery.


Hasn't Lufthansa's 744 fleet sported white wings before, at least the Star Alliance painted one anyway ? And don't BA and other 787 operators have white wings on those ? BA predecessor BEA did of course have red wings too, back in the day.


White on the upper, yes, but with the new livery LH is the first and only airline to sport all-white wings fleetwide.
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:27 pm

na wrote:
JannEejit wrote:
steman wrote:


If I´m not mistaken,
the wings have always been white, at least on the upper surface, the lower being painted the same shade of grey as the belly and engines.
In this respect LH has always had a very well thought and executed livery.


Hasn't Lufthansa's 744 fleet sported white wings before, at least the Star Alliance painted one anyway ? And don't BA and other 787 operators have white wings on those ? BA predecessor BEA did of course have red wings too, back in the day.


White on the upper, yes, but with the new livery LH is the first and only airline to sport all-white wings fleetwide.


I guess there goes the argument for cutting costs on paint by "cheap accountants" as somebody suggested.
Overtime, the bill to keep them clean (and I hope they will) will surely be up there.
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:40 pm

na wrote:
JannEejit wrote:
steman wrote:


If I´m not mistaken,
the wings have always been white, at least on the upper surface, the lower being painted the same shade of grey as the belly and engines.
In this respect LH has always had a very well thought and executed livery.


Hasn't Lufthansa's 744 fleet sported white wings before, at least the Star Alliance painted one anyway ? And don't BA and other 787 operators have white wings on those ? BA predecessor BEA did of course have red wings too, back in the day.


White on the upper, yes, but with the new livery LH is the first and only airline to sport all-white wings fleetwide.

Ansett Australia's shooting stars livery from the 1980s featured white wings:



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Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:08 pm

D-ABYA reminds me of N194UA when it was switched to Charters. One would think that a leading carrier would get a little bit more creative and even somewhat cheerful, especially when flying through a record grey winter in its homeland.
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:08 pm

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Is there any detail on the underside of the wings or fuselage, i.e., a la Emirates and Delta?

Hopefully not. That would spoil it. They've gone for a nice, clean look, so glad that the "lufhtansa.com" is gone too.
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:09 pm

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Is there any detail on the underside of the wings or fuselage, i.e., a la Emirates and Delta?

Hopefully not. That would spoil it. They've gone for a nice, clean look, so glad that the "lufhtansa.com" is gone too.


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Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:30 pm

Wondering which LH jets will not receive the new livery?

Since the A343's and A346's are being retired sooner than later,
perhaps they treat those frames like AA did the S80's and eliminate
them from the re-painting program
 
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Re: LH introduces revised livery

Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:37 pm

AA777223 wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
LH emphasizes that yellow colors will not be removed in the cabin.

Even Spohr is wearing yellow socks at the unveiling ceremony this evening.

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https://twitter.com/e_russell/status/961288401075961856

Does anyone else see a new all-aisle access J-class seat hidden in there?

That is the future 777X business class seat revealed back in November.
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:34 pm

And another one from Hamburg today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhKeo7oBaSE
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:43 pm

Sunshine does not make it any better either.
 
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Re: LH introduces revised livery

Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:06 pm

Yet another classic livery flushed down the toilet - change for the sake of change. This is ugly, drab and souless. You'll no longer know a Lufthansa plane from far off in the distance. It'll look like a freighter jet. All blue and white. Could it be more drab. This may be worse than Delta's dull and drab 2007 livery. What a shame. A timeless classic gone. Air Canada's blue and Lufthansa's blue and orange, all gone the same year. Pity.
 
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Re: LH introduces revised livery

Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:17 pm

Meh, it's okay. I'm super biased but every time I see the new LH c/s, I see the old Malev colours.



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Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:08 am

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Great video: the white wings complete this livery nicely. It's sublime, understated and very, very smart. How long will it take to get the entire fleet repainted, given that Lufthansa has around 280 aircraft?
 
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Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:22 am

It's so weird seeing people complain about an airline adding *more* colour to their livery. Can't win on A.Net!
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Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:33 am

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787Driver wrote:

Great video: the white wings complete this livery nicely. It's sublime, understated and very, very smart. How long will it take to get the entire fleet repainted, given that Lufthansa has around 280 aircraft?


This year about 40 jets will be repainted (one or more A380s and as much as I know at least one 744 among them). The whole fleet will take 7 years as aircraft will only be repainted when they are due for a repaint anyway. The first factory-new aircraft delivered in new livery will be A359 D-AIXI and an A320neo in May.
 
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Does this design where the tail fin color runs down the fuselage have a name? I believe UTA stated it and was consequently used by Qantas, Malev and a few others.
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I know I said I wasn’t much of a fan of blue/yellow colour combos, but at the same time, this final version of my edit to the livery makes it look much better.
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For me I get that they tried to put some small details here and there such as the logo or the font, but the changes are so subtle it’s like they simply changed it for a examples of what kind of effort they put into their designs and how in depth and detailed they are when they make hype out of it when it’s really hardly different than before. There’s looking classy, but go too far and there’s looking cheap, and this is on the cheap end of things. They paint the A321 and even paint the wingtip fences plain white! It looks like the livery of a company that’s on the verge of bankruptcy and is trying to cut costs as a last ditch effort. That’s just my opinion on this.
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Its a classy livery and boring...but I never expected something flamboyant, after all Its a German Airline.

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Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:11 am

A good insight into how the graphic design world thinks of the new branding is below:

https://www.underconsideration.com/bran ... _house.php

and a good, impartial (ie: not airline fanboys) look at how we think of the branding is the voting at the end of the article, with only around 8% voting for the livery as "Bad".
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Goodbye wrote:
A good insight into how the graphic design world thinks of the new branding is below:

https://www.underconsideration.com/bran ... _house.php

and a good, impartial (ie: not airline fanboys) look at how we think of the branding is the voting at the end of the article, with only around 8% voting for the livery as "Bad".

. . . and shrinking:

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I love the unintended compliment from someoene who doesn't seem to like it:
"It definitely feels like the cliched stereotype of a clinical, cold, formal German. Feels very Mercedes Benz now, while the old one felt a bit more VW" :rotfl:

It's hard to deny that the yellow wasn't a bit, em . . . overused:

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Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:37 am

I am in 2 minds about this one, looks very neat very striking and very modem. But its like back to the future in some ways like UTA French Airlines was the first to introduce the coloured tail on the Euro white fuselage, well same livery as Qantas, only in blue, Iberia, this seems to be the way now Euro white with the coloured tail, I do wonder if the cheat line will ever come back?
 
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767333ER wrote:
I know I said I wasn’t much of a fan of blue/yellow colour combos, but at the same time, this final version of my edit to the livery makes it look much better.
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This is okay, instead of the oversized logo someone else suggested.

I do think that the blue color they decided on is just a tad too dark.
 
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Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:52 am

I really don't know the purpose of have a yellow square (well I know it is a Welcome wordings now) next to the L1.
The first time I saw the 321 I doubt about why there is a temporary label next to the door.....
 
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Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:05 am

What a shame. It really is a pathetic change. LH went from a classic Euro-white livery that works to a cold, bland, lifeless revision of UTA. Just when you think airline branding/liveries couldn't any worse, a flag carrier manages to one-up the competition. And to think people get paid big bucks to produce something that anyone could dream up in no more than a half hour. I'd put a lot of money down that this one won't last as long as their classic liveries.
 
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I guess this shows that the general public on average has better taste imho than quite a number of posters here. But as always the ones opposing the change are much more vocal than the ones approving a change. Especially where emotions come into play we see this phenomenon. ;)
 
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If I´m not mistaken,
the wings have always been white, at least on the upper surface, the lower being painted the same shade of grey as the belly and engines.
Correct. The wings, engines and the horizontal stabilisers were always painted to match the fuselage with the current livery. Stabilisers were white, wings white on top and grey on bottom, engines grey (wing mounted) or white (rear mounted), plus blue tail engines on DC-10, MD-11 and 727.
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Now, THAT is truly spectacular.


YES, YES AND YES! This is near a perfect branding refresh. (Remember brand and Branding are different things) - this looks orange, but I’m assuming it’s Lufthansa Yellow.

Even if some may see the cropping as trendy, it would be easy to retreat from in the future- the baby is still there and the bath water has been changed. I’m not fond of the over used tail swath going down the fuselage (ala: FedEx) but it (like the cropped symbol) is replaceable in the future.
Getting rid of the yellow was a mistake. They will regret it more than the angled business class seats they installed!


I have to disagree. The circle is broken, and the circle is an important component of the brand. The application in the image above doesn't fit with the overall branding strategy, and looks a little unprofessional.


The “cropping” of the circle on the tail doesn’t wreck the brand. The primary thing that is integral to the Lufthansa brand is brand behavior and NOT really the branding design for a livery. I’m not fond of this livery for a few strategic reasons- to me it doesn’t say anything meaningful. The cropped circle is no different than Delta’s cropped widget, along with the “dipped” in paint tail and fuselage are old tricks in an attempt to be more contemporary.
I’m certain that Lufthansa has reams of brand image data. Every brand in the world will have a mix of strengths and areas of weakness- and it’s almost impossible for a marketing team not to want to try and fix the weaknesses, strengthen the positives, vs understanding that it’s ok to NOT be something to everyone.
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I personally think that “something” needed to be freshened up in regards to the (now old) current identity- but no, I wouldn’t have cropped the circle or do the tail dip.
Imagine if Singapore cropped the Crane? That would be a mistake of epic proportion. Yet, while totally 70’s in its design- the Crain is just as contemporary as it needs to be because it stands for so much more.
I stick by my professional opinion that the complete removal of the yellow was not a good move. Will it ruin Lufthansa, no, but not good branding practice.
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I like this photo of both planes together in Munich:

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Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:51 am

I thought that they were supposed to introduce a revised economy cabin in the 747. Does anyone have any photos?

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Hello InnsbruckFlyer, you have to change your personal picture.... just toooooo much yellow! :lol: :rotfl: :duck:

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KLDC10 wrote:
VC10er wrote:

YES, YES AND YES! This is near a perfect branding refresh. (Remember brand and Branding are different things) - this looks orange, but I’m assuming it’s Lufthansa Yellow.

Even if some may see the cropping as trendy, it would be easy to retreat from in the future- the baby is still there and the bath water has been changed. I’m not fond of the over used tail swath going down the fuselage (ala: FedEx) but it (like the cropped symbol) is replaceable in the future.
Getting rid of the yellow was a mistake. They will regret it more than the angled business class seats they installed!


I have to disagree. The circle is broken, and the circle is an important component of the brand. The application in the image above doesn't fit with the overall branding strategy, and looks a little unprofessional.


The “cropping” of the circle on the tail doesn’t wreck the brand. The primary thing that is integral to the Lufthansa brand is brand behavior and NOT really the branding design for a livery. I’m not fond of this livery for a few strategic reasons- to me it doesn’t say anything meaningful. The cropped circle is no different than Delta’s cropped widget, along with the “dipped” in paint tail and fuselage are old tricks in an attempt to be more contemporary.
I’m certain that Lufthansa has reams of brand image data. Every brand in the world will have a mix of strengths and areas of weakness- and it’s almost impossible for a marketing team not to want to try and fix the weaknesses, strengthen the positives, vs understanding that it’s ok to NOT be something to everyone.
I was once in a meeting where BAV data was shared with the US ARMY, (BAV is the world’s largest quant brand study). The US ARMY didn’t get high scores for “warm, approachable and friendly” - yet the consulting individual giving the presentation said that was a problem that needed fixing. Lol!!!
I personally think that “something” needed to be freshened up in regards to the (now old) current identity- but no, I wouldn’t have cropped the circle or do the tail dip.
Imagine if Singapore cropped the Crane? That would be a mistake of epic proportion. Yet, while totally 70’s in its design- the Crain is just as contemporary as it needs to be because it stands for so much more.
I stick by my professional opinion that the complete removal of the yellow was not a good move. Will it ruin Lufthansa, no, but not good branding practice.


The yellow is not gone from the branding. It will still be around in a much more refined fashion.It was only dropped from the livery. But then I do not really see the yellow in its new function as making sense on the livery. Call to action, something special, important? I simply do not see it. In the end the livery is probably not important anyway.When does a customer see the livery, when does the customer come into contact with the livery only?
 
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Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:24 am

Looked clean and to the point when I arrived yesterday on LH463 back from my US trip. And she sat right next to our gate when we pulled into it. I somewhat get the design concept but maybe adding the crane to the engine cowlings could/would be a nice and fitting addition.

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Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:43 am

Lufthansa used to adopt a white/grey colour scheme on the wings where the split used to follow the centre line of the leading and trailing edge of the wing.

The new scheme will now go to an all white top and bottom wing, including fairings too. They aren't the first customer to request this scheme and probably won't be the last either.
 
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The “cropping” of the circle on the tail doesn’t wreck the brand. The primary thing that is integral to the Lufthansa brand is brand behavior and NOT really the branding design for a livery. I’m not fond of this livery for a few strategic reasons- to me it doesn’t say anything meaningful. The cropped circle is no different than Delta’s cropped widget, along with the “dipped” in paint tail and fuselage are old tricks in an attempt to be more contemporary.
I’m certain that Lufthansa has reams of brand image data. Every brand in the world will have a mix of strengths and areas of weakness- and it’s almost impossible for a marketing team not to want to try and fix the weaknesses, strengthen the positives, vs understanding that it’s ok to NOT be something to everyone.
I was once in a meeting where BAV data was shared with the US ARMY, (BAV is the world’s largest quant brand study). The US ARMY didn’t get high scores for “warm, approachable and friendly” - yet the consulting individual giving the presentation said that was a problem that needed fixing. Lol!!!
I personally think that “something” needed to be freshened up in regards to the (now old) current identity- but no, I wouldn’t have cropped the circle or do the tail dip.
Imagine if Singapore cropped the Crane? That would be a mistake of epic proportion. Yet, while totally 70’s in its design- the Crain is just as contemporary as it needs to be because it stands for so much more.
I stick by my professional opinion that the complete removal of the yellow was not a good move. Will it ruin Lufthansa, no, but not good branding practice.


Lufthansa have explicitly stated a desire to exercise a greater degree of brand discipline than they have done thus far. In some of the graphics posted earlier in the thread, there's an example of how many different applications of the crane have been made in recent years.

Enlarging the logo and cropping the circle on the tail is exactly the opposite of applying brand discipline. It would simply be introducing a new application of the logo, which would only ever be used in one application - the tail of the aircraft. You'd never see a cropped circle in an advertisement, or an in-flight magazine. The Lufthansa Kranich has tremendous brand value, and should only be applied as intended. Doing otherwise devalues the logo and the brand. Maybe it doesn't wreck it, but it doesn't do it any good.

Of course, I respect your opinion as a design professional, and I've no doubt that there are areas where the effort could have been improved. But overall, I think the result has been a success. Clearly the final livery is the product of a long process, and simply making little changes to the livery probably undermines some of that process. The livery is the end point, not the start point.
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Re: LH introduces revised livery

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Re: LH introduces revised livery

Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:52 am

pugman211 wrote:
The new scheme will now go to an all white top and bottom wing, including fairings too. They aren't the first customer to request this scheme and probably won't be the last either.


While, as someone pointed out, long-gone Ansett had it, no other airline (maybe a few small exotics I don´t know of aside) has all-white wings/engines today.
 
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Re: LH introduces revised livery

Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:10 pm

na wrote:
pugman211 wrote:
The new scheme will now go to an all white top and bottom wing, including fairings too. They aren't the first customer to request this scheme and probably won't be the last either.


While, as someone pointed out, long-gone Ansett had it, no other airline (maybe a few small exotics I don´t know of aside) has all-white wings/engines today.


There are 2 that comes to mind, Comlux and something air maroc I think it was. But even those 2 airlines had the same paint on top/bottom of the wings. The new Lufthansa scheme will have 2 different paints, (elastomeric on upper, polyurethane on the lower) possibly different shades of white. It is a different white from the previous scheme.
 
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Re: LH introduces revised livery

Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:31 pm

KLDC10 wrote:
VC10er wrote:
...Of course, I respect your opinion as a design professional, and I've no doubt that there are areas where the effort could have been improved. But overall, I think the result has been a success. Clearly the final livery is the product of a long process, and simply making little changes to the livery probably undermines some of that process. The livery is the end point, not the start point.


Right.

And not to forget, the beloved "Spiegelei" was always an oddity in the LH Design world. It was used nowhere else than on the airplanes. No matter how important and symppathetic - it was an oddity.
 
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Re: LH introduces revised livery

Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:31 pm

KLDC10 wrote:
VC10er wrote:
...Of course, I respect your opinion as a design professional, and I've no doubt that there are areas where the effort could have been improved. But overall, I think the result has been a success. Clearly the final livery is the product of a long process, and simply making little changes to the livery probably undermines some of that process. The livery is the end point, not the start point.


Right.

And not to forget, the beloved "Spiegelei" was always an oddity in the LH Design world. It was used nowhere else than on the airplanes. No matter how important and sympathetic - it was an oddity.

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