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Silk Way to add additional 747-8 freighters

Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:58 pm

Silk Way Airlines is in the market for two additional 747-8 freighters.

Silk Way Airlines (ZP, Baku) will sign an agreement with Boeing (BOE, Chicago O'Hare) before year-end for two more B747-8(F)s the president of AZAL Azerbaijan Airlines (J2, Baku), Jahangir Asgarov, has announced. At present Silk Way Airlines has five B747-8(F)s in service with its Silk Way West Airlines (7L, Baku) unit.


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Re: Silk Way to add additional 747-8 freighters

Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:10 pm

Great news for Boeing, now if EK can make good on the order for 100 747-8I's rumored last year, it would be a nice end to 2017.
 
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Re: Silk Way to add additional 747-8 freighters

Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:19 pm

Ha - not happening! Nice try. 747 is on the way out except for freighter IMHO. We can all imagine.... .also the rumoured TK order. Just a no-go given what will likely be happening to fuel in 10 years. I am surprised though that nobody has yet jumped on the 777-200ER/ and 777-200LR/ F freighter conversion. There are substantial available units and there must be a reason for this but not one I understand at the mo. Thoughts?
 
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Re: Silk Way to add additional 747-8 freighters

Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:28 pm

Nice to find proof that at least the Jumbo freighter still has some future. Now if the likes of SQ, Asiana, China Airlines etc. would come out to play.

NZ321 wrote:
Ha - not happening! Nice try. 747 is on the way out except for freighter IMHO. We can all imagine.... .also the rumoured TK order. Just a no-go given what will likely be happening to fuel in 10 years. I am surprised though that nobody has yet jumped on the 777-200ER/ and 777-200LR/ F freighter conversion. There are substantial available units and there must be a reason for this but not one I understand at the mo. Thoughts?


The question of a 772/77E-conversion was raised numerous times. I learned there is a structural problem, namely the floor making it economically unwise to convert these older 777s. I guess the same is true for all pax-777s.
 
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Re: Silk Way to add additional 747-8 freighters

Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:38 pm

NZ321 wrote:
Ha - not happening! Nice try. 747 is on the way out except for freighter IMHO. We can all imagine.... .also the rumoured TK order. Just a no-go given what will likely be happening to fuel in 10 years. I am surprised though that nobody has yet jumped on the 777-200ER/ and 777-200LR/ F freighter conversion. There are substantial available units and there must be a reason for this but not one I understand at the mo. Thoughts?


The passenger version, the 747-8, has finished. Whilst freighters are being produced it could be restarted but that requires new orders, which seem unlikely.

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Re: Silk Way to add additional 747-8 freighters

Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:35 pm

na wrote:
The question of a 772/77E-conversion was raised numerous times. I learned there is a structural problem, namely the floor making it economically unwise to convert these older 777s. I guess the same is true for all pax-777s.


The floorbeams are composite and not aluminum, and so the floor cannot bear the weight that the 77F can. Does make me wonder whether package carriers could tolerate the lower floor load for volume-limited applications.

But getting back to this thread, if they want the 748F, they definitely would not want a 777 without the factory-built freighter floor.
 
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Re: Silk Way to add additional 747-8 freighters

Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:30 pm

cheapgreek wrote:
Great news for Boeing, now if EK can make good on the order for 100 747-8I's rumored last year, it would be a nice end to 2017.

Time goes fast, that deal was rumored in early 2015 as a pitch by GE Aviation together with Boeing straight to the Chairman of the airline sidelining Tim Clark. So basically this was about 3 years ago when this pitch happened.

Boeing's pitch of the 747-8I to TK could also have been around that time. It cannot have been to recent, and as we know TK didn't bite.

I can only see new freighter orders with the 777-9X coming closer and closer. We will see more of these smaller orders between some larger ones. Maybe Singapore Airlines or Air China will jump in at some point in the next couple of years, maybe ordering just enough for Boeing to raise the production a bit.
 
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Re: Silk Way to add additional 747-8 freighters

Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:27 pm

Congratulations to Silk Way and Boeing. Yet another order for the 747 which continues to live on. I happened to catch a Silk Way 747 on stand the other day at JFK. A very nice looking bird!
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