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Is This A One Off Seating Config?

Wed Feb 27, 2002 1:12 am


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Pic of a Southwest B737 with fwd and aft facing seats at overwing exit. Is this throughout Southwest's fleet? Are there any other airlines with this config? Is it only at overwing exits?
 
BWIrwy4
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RE: Is This A One Off Seating Config?

Wed Feb 27, 2002 1:47 am

This configuration is slowly being phased out of Southwest's fleet. They have the rear-facing "lounge seats" at the overwings as well as row 1.
 
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RE: Is This A One Off Seating Config?

Wed Feb 27, 2002 1:53 am

I've seen the same configuration in the first row of various ATRs and Dash 8s (where the emergency exits are located). As for Southwest, I've seen it aboard a 732, but I'm not sure if they also have it on their 73Gs. It's ridiculous! Okay, it might save some centimeters in the exit row and thus allow them to install some additional seats.
However, I would not like to fly on one of those "aft facing seats", nor would I like to sit on one of the "fwd facing seat" face to face with the aft-seat-passenger.
 
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RE: Is This A One Off Seating Config?

Wed Feb 27, 2002 2:07 am

Its a very safe way to sit.
 
goingboeing
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RE: Is This A One Off Seating Config?

Wed Feb 27, 2002 2:10 am

Yet the rear facing seats were rather popular, allowing a group to hold an inflight "meeting" prior to arriving at their destination. FWIW Ndebele - SWA 737's have fewer seats than other airlines 737's.
 
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RE: Is This A One Off Seating Config?

Wed Feb 27, 2002 2:15 am

Apparently.. Alot of fatalities would be avoided if seats faced backwards, but passengers often do not like that idea (would feel quite odd on t/o and landing Big grin).

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RE: Is This A One Off Seating Config?

Wed Feb 27, 2002 2:27 am

On the Airspeed Elizabethan a/c of the 1950s, the high-wing layout with underwing emergency exits rather dictated the cabin layout.

The direction the seats faced each other reversed at the place the central spar crossed through the cabin ceiling!

RAF VC-10 transports always had all-rear-facing seats for the reason highlighted by EGGD.

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RE: Is This A One Off Seating Config?

Wed Feb 27, 2002 5:21 am

Mohawk had a similar seating arrangement in its BAC-111s. I also have faint recollections of facing seats, separated by a table that folded up, on a DH Comet (Olympic or BEA) - can anyone verify the latter?
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RE: Is This A One Off Seating Config?

Wed Feb 27, 2002 5:50 am

Hey, BA new Club World config has half rear facing seats and is pummeling the competition, yay! Pax dont notice any difference except on take off and landing. Anyway its about time they knew what hanging out of a rear facing seat on take off feels like, then they know what we cabin crew go through every day!! Should introduce self service meals to add the finishing touch!!
 
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Southwest 73Gs

Wed Feb 27, 2002 5:53 am

As a follow-up to Ndebele's post, Southwest's 73Gs do not have rear-facing seats.
 
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RE: Southwest 73Gs

Wed Feb 27, 2002 6:30 am

I remember this WN seating config. from the late '70s and early '80s. I don't know if it is still around but, if the flight was lightly loaded, it was great to be able to put your feet up on the rear-facing seat in front of you like it was a flying recliner.
 
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RE: Is This A One Off Seating Config?

Wed Feb 27, 2002 7:17 am

True re-the RAF VC-10's. I remember reading somewhere that should an entire pax plane be fitted with rear facing seats the cabin floor must be stressed for integrity in case of an emergency landing. The is because the rear of the seat, and hence the floor supporting it, will now take the full brunt of the body weight. This means adding weight to the aircraft and reducing the capacity. So plans were shelved.
 
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RE: Is This A One Off Seating Config?

Wed Feb 27, 2002 9:44 am

This seating arrangement still exist on most of Southwest's fleet. When Southwest introduced the 737-700's into the fleet, they were the first new planes without this seating. As the old planes are being refurbished and getting the new interiors, they are eliminating this "lounge" seating. As some one else mentioned, these lounges are located at the very front of the plane and at mid cabin where the emergency exits are located.

Richard Silagi
 
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RE: Is This A One Off Seating Config?

Wed Feb 27, 2002 9:49 am

It has been proven that the rear facing seats would be more safe than the forward facing ones, but it was said that it might cause confusion in an evacuation.

I wouldn't like to sit face to face with a complete stranger for an entire flight either.
 
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RE: Is This A One Off Seating Config?

Wed Feb 27, 2002 10:08 am

It is good fun when you are flying with friends. Also, it is especially helpful for WN's FAs when they are shuttling a bunch of unaccompanied minors on the "custody runs" (Friday and Sunday evening flights between Dallas and Houston are loaded with them); fill the club rows up with kids, and they are easier to watch (up front near jump seats) and tend to keep each other entertained.

Not too comfortable for the shy when you have to sit face to face with strangers, but I've done it and, unless you are a complete jerk, it can be a good way to promote friendly conversation, accompanied by cold beer.
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RE: Is This A One Off Seating Config?

Wed Feb 27, 2002 10:36 am

The seats really aren't bad. They're especially fun with a group of friends. The only thing that I don't like about them is there's no tray table to put your drink and peanuts on  Smile
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RE: Is This A One Off Seating Config?

Wed Feb 27, 2002 12:39 pm

Nauseating memories of BA Tridents are filling my head...
 
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RE: Is This A One Off Seating Config?

Wed Feb 27, 2002 4:42 pm

I flew in a 737-300 from MAN-BWI sitting backwards. It was a lot of fun. On take off you see the airport behind you.
 
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RE: Is This A One Off Seating Config?

Wed Feb 27, 2002 6:31 pm

733 doesn't have the range for MAN-BWI...
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RE: Is This A One Off Seating Config?

Wed Feb 27, 2002 8:59 pm

MOst likely meant MHT (MANchester NH).

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