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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - January 2018

Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:51 am

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QF to announce Brisbane - Dallas when the second tranche of Dreamliners (eight x -9s) is announced in the third quarter of the year.


My prediction is that the next order for 789's will come in the first half of the year in order to get some delivery slots locked in for the second half of 2019. Leave it too late and they may not be able to get more until 2020 which would slow down growth and new route opportunities which they seem keen to push forward with.

Wouldn't surprise me either if this happens at the same time they announce the new BNE-US route, you could be right there with Dallas but I still think ORD will get it.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - January 2018

Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:00 am

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Later this month the Federal government is expected to announce major security upgrades for regional airports including some remote locations

https://blueswandaily.com/australia-exp ... -jan-2018/


Can't wait for Rex to be up in arms when this announcement is made
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - January 2018

Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:08 am

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^^

NZ could also start their own AKL-NTL/ROK/TSV services, used by the freed up A320s once the A321neos arrive (in addition to partially covering the costs of immigration staff commuting to/from those ports (in conjunction with local councils and/or the state governments) at those larger regional ports) to cover the loss of VA capacity should the Trans-Tasman JV end from late 2018.



Pretty much what happened with MCY, although MCY now gets immigration funding.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - January 2018

Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:34 am

brucetiki wrote:
qf789 wrote:
Later this month the Federal government is expected to announce major security upgrades for regional airports including some remote locations

https://blueswandaily.com/australia-exp ... -jan-2018/


Can't wait for Rex to be up in arms when this announcement is made


I thought the same thing when I read about this. They already have a link on the front of their web page to "Stop screening charges at Dubbo" petition. It's been on there for a few years now. Since QFlink started sending Q400's there.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - January 2018

Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:32 am

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What about US regionals? Sounds like you can land a jet command in 2 years over there.


While I love visiting the US and have many friends that live there, it's not for me. Australia is a lot closer to what I'm looking for in life. It's very similar to Canada, culturally speaking. My sister also lives there.


Definitely worth looking into! Good luck!

While a long(er) shot, don’t rule out Jetstar. They have hired foreign pilots on 457 visas previously, and would give you the opportunity to move up to the A320.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - January 2018

Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:43 am

Has the deferred retirement of -OJS/T and U been officially announced?
 
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Tonights QF25 SYD/HND is posting an approximate 17hour delay
EDT 1435hrs tomorrow (03Jan)
ETA 2200hrs into HND
Which will in turn delay the return QF26 as the SDT is 2200hrs
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - January 2018

Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:20 am

ZuluAlpha wrote:
Tonights QF25 SYD/HND is posting an approximate 17hour delay
EDT 1435hrs tomorrow (03Jan)
ETA 2200hrs into HND
Which will in turn delay the return QF26 as the SDT is 2200hrs


More than likely as a result of -OJU sunbaking in HNL. No operational spares that’s what happens!

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - January 2018

Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:31 am

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* a third international carrier for CBR (I predict NZ to AKL, or curve ball of CX to HKG);

I've heard rumours (and it's getting stronger by the time) that CZ is seriously looking into CBR so I wouldn't rule that out either.
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* JL at PER, codeshare with QF;

Unless one significant competitor enter the market (NH's presence is way too small right now) ACCC will never allow this to happen.
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* more QF B717s (beyond the 11 already done and one more to go) will be reconfigured into 12J/98Y, likely routes including some ADL-PER, possibly some ADL-CBR, and potentially taking over some or all of the remaining 125Y Qld/NT network;

I agree, and personally I can see QF getting more 717 from the market (if there are any). Fokker 100 would also be on the list IMHO.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - January 2018

Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:38 am

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Tonights QF25 SYD/HND is posting an approximate 17hour delay
EDT 1435hrs tomorrow (03Jan)
ETA 2200hrs into HND
Which will in turn delay the return QF26 as the SDT is 2200hrs


More than likely as a result of -OJU sunbaking in HNL. No operational spares that’s what happens!

EK413


This one is a bit of a perfect storm, as in addition to being down a frame they can’t land any earlier than 22:00 without daytime route authority. The aircraft may well be ready to go at 06:00 but it isn’t flying anywhere as they won’t be allowed to land in Haneda.

Regarding the 717 fleet, I can see them all eventually going to a mixed class configuration, and Qantas picking up at least some of the Volotea frames if the price is right (i.e. they don’t get into a bidding war with Delta and Hawaiian). There are a lot more second hand F100s on the market than 717s, and they are worth peanuts. I could eventually see Network open bases in both BNE and DRW to operate routes like BNE-ROK, BNE-GLT and the intra-NT stuff, leaving the 717s for more “premium” routes.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - January 2018

Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:40 am

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Has the deferred retirement of -OJS/T and U been officially announced?


Nothing has been said, providing its still happening maybe we will hear something when half year results are announced in Feb
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - January 2018

Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:42 am

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A mass Boeing order from QF (737max, 789 and 779)"

QF will NOT be doing any "mass" orders for anything. They can't afford it in terms of capital adequacy. Exactly why they will be ordering B787s as their options/purchase rights expire, as stated by Alan Joyce.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - January 2018

Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:47 am

[quote="CattleClass" My prediction is that the next order for 789's will come in the first half of the year in order to get some delivery slots locked in for the second half of 2019. Leave it too late and they may not be able to get more until 2020 which would slow down growth and new route opportunities which they seem keen to push forward with.
Wouldn't surprise me either if this happens at the same time they announce the new BNE-US route, you could be right there with Dallas but I still think ORD will get it.[/quote]
QF ALREADY have delivery slots locked in for B787s PROVIDED they confirm the options by the due date. AJ has said that orders will places as the options expire. I do expect that there will be another small order in 1H 2018.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - January 2018

Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:10 pm

All I hope is that some of these predictions for Perth come true, with 7 new hotels in the last 12 months and another 20 to open by 2020.
Room rates will go down making it a cheaper option but still a heap of rooms to fill.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - January 2018

Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:14 pm

Both QF & VA are being asked to fly to Orange from SYD in a bid to reduce fares and to increase capacity on the route

http://www.westernadvocate.com.au/story ... e-airport/
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - January 2018

Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:21 pm

It seems Emirates is planning a 3rd daily A380 DXB-SYD flight starting from 25MAR18.

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Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:23 pm

VA passengers onboard VA1097 LST-SYD were delayed for nearly 2 hours on the 28 Dec after a crew member was not fit for duty and a replacement had to be found

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... armac.html
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Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:27 pm

As JL don’t codeshare on any flights with QF to/from Australia, any additional destinations would follow that same situation. Only the JQ flights have a JL codeshare.

waoz1 wrote:
All I hope is that some of these predictions for Perth come true, with 7 new hotels in the last 12 months and another 20 to open by 2020.
Room rates will go down making it a cheaper option but still a heap of rooms to fill.


Perth room rates are already down significantly over the past couple of years, with this added supply bound to cause a few more headaches for hotel operators.

WA as a whole has some great things for tourists, but I do feel Perth itself does seem to offer very little. It is taking steps in the right direction, and moves like the QF LHR services will certainly help boost interest, there is a long way to go based on my visits there.
 
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Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:27 pm

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It seems Emirates is planning a 3rd daily A380 DXB-SYD flight starting from 25MAR18.


That was announced back in September after QF announced they were going to fly via SIN rather than DXB

https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/e ... australia#
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Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:28 pm

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It seems Emirates is planning a 3rd daily A380 DXB-SYD flight starting from 25MAR18.


That was announced a while ago. They will be 3 x daily A380 SYD-DXB and 1 x daily A380 SYD-BKK-DXB
 
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Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:36 pm

IndianicWorld wrote:
As JL don’t codeshare on any flights with QF to/from Australia, any additional destinations would follow that same situation. Only the JQ flights have a JL codeshare.

waoz1 wrote:
All I hope is that some of these predictions for Perth come true, with 7 new hotels in the last 12 months and another 20 to open by 2020.
Room rates will go down making it a cheaper option but still a heap of rooms to fill.


Perth room rates are already down significantly over the past couple of years, with this added supply bound to cause a few more headaches for hotel operators.

WA as a whole has some great things for tourists, but I do feel Perth itself does seem to offer very little. It is taking steps in the right direction, and moves like the QF LHR services will certainly help boost interest, there is a long way to go based on my visits there.


May I ask what you have experienced in the past and what would appeal to you in the future in visiting PER?
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Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:52 pm

qf789 wrote:
IndianicWorld wrote:
As JL don’t codeshare on any flights with QF to/from Australia, any additional destinations would follow that same situation. Only the JQ flights have a JL codeshare.

waoz1 wrote:
All I hope is that some of these predictions for Perth come true, with 7 new hotels in the last 12 months and another 20 to open by 2020.
Room rates will go down making it a cheaper option but still a heap of rooms to fill.


Perth room rates are already down significantly over the past couple of years, with this added supply bound to cause a few more headaches for hotel operators.

WA as a whole has some great things for tourists, but I do feel Perth itself does seem to offer very little. It is taking steps in the right direction, and moves like the QF LHR services will certainly help boost interest, there is a long way to go based on my visits there.


May I ask what you have experienced in the past and what would appeal to you in the future in visiting PER?


Although I do like Rottnest Island and Fremantle, Perth itself offers very little for tourists. A friend from the US travelled across to Perth recently, mainly to go down to Margaret River (which he loved).

His first comment was ‘Why is Perth so boring?’. He went on to say the place felt like a ghost town at certain parts of the day/night, which has actually mirrored some of my experiences.

It’s a nice place, with an excellent setting along the Swan River, but it needs more energy and attractions to make people connect to Perth, which is slowly happening but it is behind its peers in this country on that journey from my experiences.
 
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Tue Jan 02, 2018 1:31 pm

IndianicWorld wrote:
As JL don’t codeshare on any flights with QF to/from Australia, any additional destinations would follow that same situation. Only the JQ flights have a JL codeshare.


JL codeshare on QF Australia-SIN flights and vice versa, QF codeshare on JL from NRT/HND to SIN. Not the biggest of backtracks for Perth flyers.
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Tue Jan 02, 2018 1:44 pm

getluv wrote:
IndianicWorld wrote:
As JL don’t codeshare on any flights with QF to/from Australia, any additional destinations would follow that same situation. Only the JQ flights have a JL codeshare.


JL codeshare on QF Australia-SIN flights and vice versa, QF codeshare on JL from NRT/HND to SIN. Not the biggest of backtracks for Perth flyers.


Yep well aware of those codeshares on SIN-Tokyo, but was referring specifically to Australia-Japan non-stop routes in my comments.

It works for PER pax yes, and I am sure they are crunching the numbers on opening up PER as a destination. The state govt there are certainly pushing hard.
 
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Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:02 pm

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Not a good look for Qantas. More so when you read a lot of the comments.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/travel-t ... t-its-game


Been this way for years with QF. Down the bottom end of my list for international travel, without a doubt. Always met with surly, disinterested cabin crew who seem more bothered about their weekend plans than actually providing any kind of service.


I could say this about any airline on any given day. Service on any airline is hit or miss. I always tell people to complain directly to the airline when they receive poor customer service directly.

Soon as I read "very delayed flight" I knew the "journalist" had an axe to grind. This is just a glorified TripAdvisor review.

And of course Stuff.co.nz picked this up from their sister site. Mind you anything anti-Air NZ gets a lot of negative comments on Stuff.
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Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:05 pm

IndianicWorld wrote:
getluv wrote:
IndianicWorld wrote:
As JL don’t codeshare on any flights with QF to/from Australia, any additional destinations would follow that same situation. Only the JQ flights have a JL codeshare.


JL codeshare on QF Australia-SIN flights and vice versa, QF codeshare on JL from NRT/HND to SIN. Not the biggest of backtracks for Perth flyers.


Yep well aware of those codeshares on SIN-Tokyo, but was referring specifically to Australia-Japan non-stop routes in my comments.

It works for PER pax yes, and I am sure they are crunching the numbers on opening up PER as a destination. The state govt there are certainly pushing hard.


The State government should focus on building WA's reputation as a holiday destination first.
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Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:01 pm

getluv wrote:
IndianicWorld wrote:
getluv wrote:

JL codeshare on QF Australia-SIN flights and vice versa, QF codeshare on JL from NRT/HND to SIN. Not the biggest of backtracks for Perth flyers.


Yep well aware of those codeshares on SIN-Tokyo, but was referring specifically to Australia-Japan non-stop routes in my comments.

It works for PER pax yes, and I am sure they are crunching the numbers on opening up PER as a destination. The state govt there are certainly pushing hard.


The State government should focus on building WA's reputation as a holiday destination first.


The State should be doing both, its no point building a reputation as a holiday destination if you dont have the tourists to go with it
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Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:06 pm

EK413 wrote:
ZuluAlpha wrote:
Tonights QF25 SYD/HND is posting an approximate 17hour delay
EDT 1435hrs tomorrow (03Jan)
ETA 2200hrs into HND
Which will in turn delay the return QF26 as the SDT is 2200hrs


More than likely as a result of -OJU sunbaking in HNL. No operational spares that’s what happens!

EK413


I don't think the delay to the HND flight has anything to do with OJU. OJT has been on the ground in SYD since arriving from HND this morning so perhaps that has suffered a technical issue as well
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Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:41 pm

qf789 wrote:
EK413 wrote:
ZuluAlpha wrote:
Tonights QF25 SYD/HND is posting an approximate 17hour delay
EDT 1435hrs tomorrow (03Jan)
ETA 2200hrs into HND
Which will in turn delay the return QF26 as the SDT is 2200hrs


More than likely as a result of -OJU sunbaking in HNL. No operational spares that’s what happens!

EK413


I don't think the delay to the HND flight has anything to do with OJU. OJT has been on the ground in SYD since arriving from HND this morning so perhaps that has suffered a technical issue as well


Your correct -OJT suffered a mech. issue. Good to see -OJU back on her way to LAX after the short vacation in HNL.
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Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:13 pm

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And of course Stuff.co.nz picked this up from their sister site. Mind you anything anti-Air NZ gets a lot of negative comments on Stuff.


Not as bad as Jetstar - the moment that Jetstar cancels an domestic flight or has an few hour delay on flights within New Zealand its breaking news.
 
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Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:16 am

IndianicWorld wrote:
qf789 wrote:
IndianicWorld wrote:
As JL don’t codeshare on any flights with QF to/from Australia, any additional destinations would follow that same situation. Only the JQ flights have a JL codeshare.



Perth room rates are already down significantly over the past couple of years, with this added supply bound to cause a few more headaches for hotel operators.

WA as a whole has some great things for tourists, but I do feel Perth itself does seem to offer very little. It is taking steps in the right direction, and moves like the QF LHR services will certainly help boost interest, there is a long way to go based on my visits there.


May I ask what you have experienced in the past and what would appeal to you in the future in visiting PER?


Although I do like Rottnest Island and Fremantle, Perth itself offers very little for tourists. A friend from the US travelled across to Perth recently, mainly to go down to Margaret River (which he loved).

His first comment was ‘Why is Perth so boring?’. He went on to say the place felt like a ghost town at certain parts of the day/night, which has actually mirrored some of my experiences.

It’s a nice place, with an excellent setting along the Swan River, but it needs more energy and attractions to make people connect to Perth, which is slowly happening but it is behind its peers in this country on that journey from my experiences.


Not that I usually bag other cities but have you ever been to darwin, canberra, adelaide or brisbane? Perth has way more to offer maybe the wrong people are telling what to go and see :)
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - January 2018

Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:29 am

Quick mention about Brisbane (random but interesting). Hevilift are a new domestic regional RPT and charter airline starting around March.No routes as yet announced. This is another new airline for Brisbane and a good start for 2018!
 
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Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:46 am

waoz1 wrote:
IndianicWorld wrote:
qf789 wrote:

May I ask what you have experienced in the past and what would appeal to you in the future in visiting PER?


Although I do like Rottnest Island and Fremantle, Perth itself offers very little for tourists. A friend from the US travelled across to Perth recently, mainly to go down to Margaret River (which he loved).

His first comment was ‘Why is Perth so boring?’. He went on to say the place felt like a ghost town at certain parts of the day/night, which has actually mirrored some of my experiences.

It’s a nice place, with an excellent setting along the Swan River, but it needs more energy and attractions to make people connect to Perth, which is slowly happening but it is behind its peers in this country on that journey from my experiences.


Not that I usually bag other cities but have you ever been to darwin, canberra, adelaide or brisbane? Perth has way more to offer maybe the wrong people are telling what to go and see :)


Darwin is a small city so that’s understandable, but from my experience there is more to do in the other 3 cities you listed.

Everyone has their own interests though, which makes it all subjective but at the end of the day for a city of the size of Perth I just feel it has some way to go as a destination.
 
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Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:54 am

-JQ will be having a daily flight to DPS, but instead of being a nighttime departure it is now a daytime departure, and it will be a 787, not the A321neo everyone thinks. The 787 will be based in BNE and it will be the only flight operated by that aircraft for the immediate future.
-JQ will also be flying to mainland USA, San Diego i believe
 
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-JQ will also be flying to mainland USA, San Diego i believe


Will the JQ flight operate from Melbourne?
 
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Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:21 am

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-JQ will also be flying to mainland USA, San Diego i believe


Will the JQ flight operate from Melbourne?


Most likely as that is where the majority of their 787 are based and there are less flights to Southern California from Melbourne than Sydney.
 
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Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:33 am

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-JQ will be having a daily flight to DPS, but instead of being a nighttime departure it is now a daytime departure, and it will be a 787, not the A321neo everyone thinks. The 787 will be based in BNE and it will be the only flight operated by that aircraft for the immediate future.
-JQ will also be flying to mainland USA, San Diego i believe


Are these predictions or facts? Any sources regarding San Diego as that would be very interesting with a tight B787 fleet.

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Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:37 am

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-JQ will also be flying to mainland USA, San Diego i believe


Will the JQ flight operate from Melbourne?


Most likely as that is where the majority of their 787 are based and there are less flights to Southern California from Melbourne than Sydney.


As pointed out last year in a thread UA could not get a full payload with a 788 on MEL-LAX so how is JQ going to do MEL-SAN when JQ has over 100 more seats on their 788's
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Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:55 am

MEL-SAN with a 788 is completely out of the question. Even BNE-SAN would be a stretch with Jetstar’s high density configuration.

With fares to the USA now regularly under $2000 pretty much all year apart from December and July, and sometimes even sub-$1000 in low season, there is no way Qantas would want JQ flying to mainland USA and diluting yields even more.
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Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:09 am

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-JQ will be having a daily flight to DPS, but instead of being a nighttime departure it is now a daytime departure, and it will be a 787, not the A321neo everyone thinks. The 787 will be based in BNE and it will be the only flight operated by that aircraft for the immediate future.
-JQ will also be flying to mainland USA, San Diego i believe


Are these predictions or facts? Any sources regarding San Diego as that would be very interesting with a tight B787 fleet.

EK413


I highly doubt the credence of any planned San Diego direct service by JQ from mainland Australia.

There is no way that the planned route can be MEL-SAN given the GCM distance of 7941nm is far in excess of the 787-8's quoted range of 7355nm and this is ignoring the heavy range penalty that the westbound service would attract. Even BNE-SAN is just within the still-air range of the 787-8 which probably means it is too far particularly as LCCs can't really afford to fly with too many empty seats and retain the pricing advantage that attracts pax away from full service carriers.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - January 2018

Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:38 am

RyanairGuru wrote:
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EK413 wrote:
ZuluAlpha wrote:
Tonights QF25 SYD/HND is posting an approximate 17hour delay
EDT 1435hrs tomorrow (03Jan)
ETA 2200hrs into HND
Which will in turn delay the return QF26 as the SDT is 2200hrs


More than likely as a result of -OJU sunbaking in HNL. No operational spares that’s what happens!

EK413


This one is a bit of a perfect storm, as in addition to being down a frame they can’t land any earlier than 22:00 without daytime route authority. The aircraft may well be ready to go at 06:00 but it isn’t flying anywhere as they won’t be allowed to land in Haneda.

Regarding the 717 fleet, I can see them all eventually going to a mixed class configuration, and Qantas picking up at least some of the Volotea frames if the price is right (i.e. they don’t get into a bidding war with Delta and Hawaiian). There are a lot more second hand F100s on the market than 717s, and they are worth peanuts. I could eventually see Network open bases in both BNE and DRW to operate routes like BNE-ROK, BNE-GLT and the intra-NT stuff, leaving the 717s for more “premium” routes.



I have been told (and apologies if this has been mentioned) that the QFlink 717 tech crew are in quite a heated wage negotiation with Cobham. I admit I haven't been able to independently verify this (Can anyone help on that issue?), but because QF has wet leased Alliance F100's on the BNE/ISA/BNE because of this. So maybe the Network F100's on east coast operations might be foreseeable?
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - January 2018

Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:40 am

I would say that first flight for VH-ZNC is not too far away, ZNC has been moved to the fuel dock

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - January 2018

Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:15 am

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MEL-SAN with a 788 is completely out of the question. Even BNE-SAN would be a stretch with Jetstar’s high density configuration.

Perhaps JQ could use an AKL stop (MEL - AKL - SAN) - this would be able to get feed from JQ's domestic New Zealand network, as well as the likes of SYD.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - January 2018

Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:04 am

planemanofnz wrote:
RyanairGuru wrote:
MEL-SAN with a 788 is completely out of the question. Even BNE-SAN would be a stretch with Jetstar’s high density configuration.

Perhaps JQ could use an AKL stop (MEL - AKL - SAN) - this would be able to get feed from JQ's domestic New Zealand network, as well as the likes of SYD.

Cheers,

C.


I don’t believe JQ 788 are fitted with any crew rest, cabin crew could use the last few rows of economy with a curtain, but I believe tech crew require horizontal or near that rest facilities for such a long duty, I don’t think JQ Star class even with a curtain would cut it. Not to mention most carriers use second officers as rest tech crew (not all however) I don’t believe JQ employee any second officers for a premium carrier this wouldn’t matter they could use FO, but for an LCC would add a significant expense especially for one route. I would have thought LAS as a destination over SAN.

Sidenote do VA still call their Second officers ‘cruise first officers’ that was a V-Australia term?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - January 2018

Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:09 am

SAN has a 9401 ft runway which isn’t overly long, particularly for a 16hr flight to MEL. This flight seems very unlikely coupled with JQ not having a long haul crew rest in their 788’s and yields to North America being down with all the recent additional capacity, sending JQ to North America seems a little strange to me and unlikely.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - January 2018

Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:24 am

On the topic of JQ 787s:

JQ are improving the 787 schedule/utilization from FEB which will see BNE-DPS-BNE becoming daily, and MEL-DPS-MEL becoming double daily.

JQ are also eliminating most of the domestic 787 tag flights.

From the end of March 2018 MEL-SIN-MEL will be reduced with the freed up flying to be used elsewhere. Announcement will be made in the next few weeks as to where the spare capacity will be deployed.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - January 2018

Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:48 am

smi0006 wrote:
planemanofnz wrote:
RyanairGuru wrote:
MEL-SAN with a 788 is completely out of the question. Even BNE-SAN would be a stretch with Jetstar’s high density configuration.

Perhaps JQ could use an AKL stop (MEL - AKL - SAN) - this would be able to get feed from JQ's domestic New Zealand network, as well as the likes of SYD.

Cheers,

C.


I don’t believe JQ 788 are fitted with any crew rest, cabin crew could use the last few rows of economy with a curtain, but I believe tech crew require horizontal or near that rest facilities for such a long duty, I don’t think JQ Star class even with a curtain would cut it. Not to mention most carriers use second officers as rest tech crew (not all however) I don’t believe JQ employee any second officers for a premium carrier this wouldn’t matter they could use FO, but for an LCC would add a significant expense especially for one route. I would have thought LAS as a destination over SAN.

Sidenote do VA still call their Second officers ‘cruise first officers’ that was a V-Australia term?


Jetstar use three crew to HNL. Probably HKT and OOL-Japan as well, but I don’t know for sure. 2 seats in Jetstar Business are used as crew rest.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - January 2018

Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:24 am

smi0006 wrote:
planemanofnz wrote:
RyanairGuru wrote:
MEL-SAN with a 788 is completely out of the question. Even BNE-SAN would be a stretch with Jetstar’s high density configuration.

Perhaps JQ could use an AKL stop (MEL - AKL - SAN) - this would be able to get feed from JQ's domestic New Zealand network, as well as the likes of SYD.

Cheers,

C.


I don’t believe JQ 788 are fitted with any crew rest, cabin crew could use the last few rows of economy with a curtain, but I believe tech crew require horizontal or near that rest facilities for such a long duty, I don’t think JQ Star class even with a curtain would cut it. Not to mention most carriers use second officers as rest tech crew (not all however) I don’t believe JQ employee any second officers for a premium carrier this wouldn’t matter they could use FO, but for an LCC would add a significant expense especially for one route. I would have thought LAS as a destination over SAN.

Sidenote do VA still call their Second officers ‘cruise first officers’ that was a V-Australia term?


JQ do have Second First Officers and they are used on flights to HNL
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - January 2018

Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:45 pm

qf789 wrote:
getluv wrote:
IndianicWorld wrote:

Yep well aware of those codeshares on SIN-Tokyo, but was referring specifically to Australia-Japan non-stop routes in my comments.

It works for PER pax yes, and I am sure they are crunching the numbers on opening up PER as a destination. The state govt there are certainly pushing hard.


The State government should focus on building WA's reputation as a holiday destination first.


The State should be doing both, its no point building a reputation as a holiday destination if you dont have the tourists to go with it


Considering it can barely sustain what it currently gets the State Government needs to build the reputation of Perth and WA, otherwise they'll just be subsidising route after route.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - January 2018

Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:50 pm

getluv wrote:
qf789 wrote:
getluv wrote:

The State government should focus on building WA's reputation as a holiday destination first.


The State should be doing both, its no point building a reputation as a holiday destination if you dont have the tourists to go with it


Considering it can barely sustain what it currently gets the State Government needs to build the reputation of Perth and WA, otherwise they'll just be subsidising route after route.


What on earth are you talking about? QR choosing PER as an A380 destination (one of their few) speaks for itself. PER is a unique market with huge opportunity. The only route I think is currently subsidised is CZ to CAN, and that may not even be the case anymore. As for Perth itself, I was born there and relocated to Melbourne about four years ago. It's a completely different city from when I left. Yes it's quieter then the Eastern states, but there's a real cosmopolitan flair coming about these days and it's only going to keep getting better. And yes, Perth definitely has the best beaches out of any capital city.

Direct links to PVG, PEK and TYO are a matter of when, not if. I have no idea why HU isn't jumping on the bandwagon before the big 3. It may be a slow start, but if the one-airline-per-route policy sticks, it will be worth it in the long run.
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