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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:11 am

iahcsr wrote:
calpsafltskeds wrote:
319:
N897UA sked to exit LCQ Induction ferry 2800/2Feb LCQ-IAH, usually fights when straight to VCV paint

73G:
N27724 entered MIA 2798/1Feb for slimlines

738:
N77525 was to enter RFD 2780/31Jan, but diverted to ORD and is probably waiting for N79521 to be completed

764:
N69059 entered MCO 2795 1Feb

772:
N78017 entered HKG 179/13Feb
N69020 sked to exit HKG 180/3Feb

789:
N26952 sked to exit PVG 890/4Feb
N35953 sked to enter PVG 890/2Feb

A319
N897UA Could it have been painted at LCQ? That would explain the long gap from test hop to now. Also odd it came into C42 rather than straight to the hanger. If not painted would love to see what looks like atm

Apparently it must have been painted at LCQ..It’s scheduled for UA704 IAHEWR 4Feb.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:50 am

Finally got a chance to try the new Airbus F class seat this morning on OKC-DEN. Very nice finish compared to the older version. I agree with VC10er, I'm a visual person. This is not as comfortable as the old seats but still pretty comfortable. Looking forward to the flight.
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Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:37 pm

I love the new seat although it is a bit hard cushioned. I love the butt cushion sliding forward when you recline- it actually feels like it’s reclined.
And the storage and the way the power is designed, all well thought through.
Pretty, sleek and clean cabins that are branded will help United’s Premium Product reputation- especially if they went back to better meals.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:58 pm

VC10er wrote:
I love the new seat although it is a bit hard cushioned. I love the butt cushion sliding forward when you recline- it actually feels like it’s reclined.
And the storage and the way the power is designed, all well thought through.
Pretty, sleek and clean cabins that are branded will help United’s Premium Product reputation- especially if they went back to better meals.


Definitely got more uncomfortable towards the end of the flight, just due to the firmness of the padding.

I wonder if that is by design. It would make sense to use a firmer foam as it will last longer, and once it is broken in it will be softer. If you start out soft, when it gets broken in it will lose its support.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:59 pm

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atcsundevil wrote:
The CRJ2 also has miserable performance, especially in the summer. The climb rates are completely garbage. The E145 isn't exactly a superstar, but at least it can hit cruise altitude at some point during the flight.


CR2 W&B is horrible as well. Asking 4 people up front to move to the back on non-full flights is not a good thing.


ERJ’s have this problem as well ... and are noisey as hell, especially in the first 4 rows.

It’s nice having E170’s and E175’s be common here in MAF recently. I’d rather fly either of those than a mainline! Tiny lines. Quick boarding. Fast baggage. All around best flight experience.

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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:09 pm

Okcflyer wrote:
glbltrvlr wrote:
atcsundevil wrote:
The CRJ2 also has miserable performance, especially in the summer. The climb rates are completely garbage. The E145 isn't exactly a superstar, but at least it can hit cruise altitude at some point during the flight.


CR2 W&B is horrible as well. Asking 4 people up front to move to the back on non-full flights is not a good thing.


ERJ’s have this problem as well ... and are noisey as hell, especially in the first 4 rows.

I have not had this experience, as I usually sit in row 3. One of my favorite things about the ERJ's (after their HUGE windows!) is right after you lift off the runway, everything seems to go silent. I have never experienced that on other planes. I avoid the CR2's whenever possible, so I have only flown on them a few times, but the CR7's, I have always noticed the noise from forward doors, so that I could not talk to neighbors or the flight attendant easily.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:16 pm

It's no consolation to passengers with sore butts and backs but aircraft seats are designed to be hard at the start of their service life so at the end of their service life a decade later they're not a gelatinous mess. Hard now, perfect after 5 years and a few hundred thousand compressions in the middle of their life, a bit spongy after 10 years and a few hundred thousand compressions more.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:05 pm

cosyr wrote:
Okcflyer wrote:
glbltrvlr wrote:

CR2 W&B is horrible as well. Asking 4 people up front to move to the back on non-full flights is not a good thing.


ERJ’s have this problem as well ... and are noisey as hell, especially in the first 4 rows.

I have not had this experience, as I usually sit in row 3. One of my favorite things about the ERJ's (after their HUGE windows!) is right after you lift off the runway, everything seems to go silent. I have never experienced that on other planes. I avoid the CR2's whenever possible, so I have only flown on them a few times, but the CR7's, I have always noticed the noise from forward doors, so that I could not talk to neighbors or the flight attendant easily.

Agreed, I've always found the E145s to be very quiet up front. Apart from the occasional violent rattling of interior components on takeoff, the 145 has always seemed like one of the quieter aircraft out there.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:39 pm

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Where are the Polaris seats manufactured? In Asia, the US or elsewhere? Did the manufacturer make a promise they couldn't keep...it's not (I assume) as if they didn't have a pretty tight number of units in advance and over a designated period of time to source, build and ship them. Unless the 14-18 77W's came as a late breaking surprise to them...or something. UCH management must be burning up over this (one would assume too)


I believe they're still being made by Zodiac in Cwnbran, Wales.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:45 am

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cosyr wrote:
Okcflyer wrote:

ERJ’s have this problem as well ... and are noisey as hell, especially in the first 4 rows.

I have not had this experience, as I usually sit in row 3. One of my favorite things about the ERJ's (after their HUGE windows!) is right after you lift off the runway, everything seems to go silent. I have never experienced that on other planes. I avoid the CR2's whenever possible, so I have only flown on them a few times, but the CR7's, I have always noticed the noise from forward doors, so that I could not talk to neighbors or the flight attendant easily.

Agreed, I've always found the E145s to be very quiet up front. Apart from the occasional violent rattling of interior components on takeoff, the 145 has always seemed like one of the quieter aircraft out there.


Indeed it is very quite right after take off. However, upon accelerating above about 300knots, a shock wave forms just above the cockpit. 1A is the loudest seat. It gets better as you go toward the wing.

Any word on Wi-Fi over Gulf of Mexico and Central America? I presume the west coast fliers to Hawaii would like it over the Pacific as well...
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:54 am

738:
N79521 did exit RFD 2695/3FEb with slimlines
N77525 entered RFD 2784/3Feb for slimlines

764:
N69059 entered MCO 2795/1Feb

CR2:
N449AW (2003 build) entered UAX service with Air Wisconsin
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:24 am

Okcflyer wrote:
atcsundevil wrote:
cosyr wrote:
I have not had this experience, as I usually sit in row 3. One of my favorite things about the ERJ's (after their HUGE windows!) is right after you lift off the runway, everything seems to go silent. I have never experienced that on other planes. I avoid the CR2's whenever possible, so I have only flown on them a few times, but the CR7's, I have always noticed the noise from forward doors, so that I could not talk to neighbors or the flight attendant easily.

Agreed, I've always found the E145s to be very quiet up front. Apart from the occasional violent rattling of interior components on takeoff, the 145 has always seemed like one of the quieter aircraft out there.


Indeed it is very quite right after take off. However, upon accelerating above about 300knots, a shock wave forms just above the cockpit. 1A is the loudest seat. It gets better as you go toward the wing.

Any word on Wi-Fi over Gulf of Mexico and Central America? I presume the west coast fliers to Hawaii would like it over the Pacific as well...


The last 4 Mainland-Hawaii flights I’ve been on with UA for the whole duration of the flights. 3x 772s and 1x 753.

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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:12 am

I flew on N648UA 763 AMS-EWR on 1/28 and it had the new Polaris business cabin. Sat in seat 1F (center) which had a nice large footwell. Due to lack of sleep in Amsterdam I slept probably 8 hours of the flight home, but can vouch for it being a sweet ride. Wish I had been able to enjoy it more!
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:58 pm

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Any word on Wi-Fi over Gulf of Mexico and Central America? I presume the west coast fliers to Hawaii would like it over the Pacific as well...

Panasonic WiFi has always and currently does work over the Gulf of Mexico, Central America, Hawai‘i, and the Pacific. (The Airbus, 767, 777, 787, non-DirecTV 753, and int'l 752 fleets.) I haven't seen anything about Thales 737s or DirecTV 753s getting outside-the-48 WiFi.
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Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:13 pm

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Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:45 pm

I remember watching 747s climbing out from LAX when they first arrived, and over many years, sad to see her retired from United....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlo9aFWLUzs
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:18 pm

319:
N897UA in IAH since 2/2 after Induction in LCQ, still awaiting first revenue flight

764:
N67058 entered MCO 2791/5Feb
N69059 exited MCO 2791/5Feb

789:
N24972 sked to exit SEA Induction 2701/6Feb, then employee flight 2700/7Feb SEA-ORD
N24973 sked first flight (B1) BOE190/6Feb at CHS

UAX
Another 6 AirWisconsin CRJ200 units in for transfer work for UAX
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:09 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
319:
N897UA in IAH since 2/2 after Induction in LCQ, still awaiting first revenue flight

764:
N67058 entered MCO 2791/5Feb
N69059 exited MCO 2791/5Feb

789:
N24972 sked to exit SEA Induction 2701/6Feb, then employee flight 2700/7Feb SEA-ORD
N24973 sked first flight (B1) BOE190/6Feb at CHS

UAX
Another 6 AirWisconsin CRJ200 units in for transfer work for UAX

A319 N897UA has made two attempts at first rev flight, but in both cases swapped out due Mx. :o (2nd attempt caused IAHDFW flight to be delayed about an hour :banghead: )
789. N24972 should have completed actual induction a few days ago. It’s just been sitting pretty waiting since.
N24973 should be landing any minute now from said B1 :bigthumbsup:
N24974 should be ready for B1 in about a week or so. This is the last UA 789 on (current) order.
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Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:33 am

That 747 fly by is stunning. Almost made me cry now that they are all gone. United is, and always will be, a 747 airline...just like PanAm. What fun that pilot must have had!
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Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:48 am

789
N24973 C1 today 8Feb. If UA gives it a :bigthumbsup: then all they need do is fork over a couple tons of :dollarsign: :twocents: and get the keys.
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Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:00 pm

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789
N24973 C1 today 8Feb. If UA gives it a :bigthumbsup: then all they need do is fork over a couple tons of :dollarsign: :twocents: and get the keys.

Apparently it was :thumbsdown: yesterday. C2 happened today.
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Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:12 pm

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N657UA exited VQQ 2803/9Feb
 
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Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:50 pm

764:
​​​​​​​N67058 exited MCO 2777/9Feb
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Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:10 pm

789
N24974 Last of the -9s (for now anyway) B1-ed today 10Feb
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Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:55 am

789
N24972 Maiden voyage (aka first :dollarsign: flight) UA32 LAXNRT 11Feb
Hey, here’s a good question; how long does it take your average aircraft to pay for itself?
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Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:59 pm

N641UA, a 736, was diverted from BRU>ORD to LHR last week. Still in LHR. Any news?

It looks like all the 3 class 763's are now based in ORD. I'm sure the LHR/AMS/CDG/BRU travelers are underwhelmed daily.
 
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Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:13 pm

In dead of winter, unfortunately what underwhelming is the loads on the ORD-TATL flights.

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N87527 entered HOU 2771/11Feb, hopefully for slimlines

764:
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Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:44 pm

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It looks like all the 3 class 763's are now based in ORD. I'm sure the LHR/AMS/CDG/BRU travelers are underwhelmed daily.


With only 7 ships in service pending Polaris mods, it won't be for very long.
 
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Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:47 pm

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fun2fly wrote:
It looks like all the 3 class 763's are now based in ORD. I'm sure the LHR/AMS/CDG/BRU travelers are underwhelmed daily.


With only 7 ships in service pending Polaris mods, it won't be for very long.


The summer schedule (looking at late June) appears to only need 4 3-class frames, with probably one spare at ORD. The routes are 3x ORD-LHR plus 1x EWR-LHR. So I'd expect two more of those 7 frames to go in for mods before the summer.
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Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:49 pm

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789
N24974 Last of the -9s (for now anyway) B1-ed today 10Feb


Question: are the 789s still split into two subfleets - each one operated exclusively by either sUA or sCO FAs? If so, what is the split? Are they allocated to certain routes only?
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Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:59 pm

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iahcsr wrote:
789
N24974 Last of the -9s (for now anyway) B1-ed today 10Feb


Question: are the 789s still split into two subfleets - each one operated exclusively by either sUA or sCO FAs? If so, what is the split? Are they allocated to certain routes only?


968-972 (currently in service) are sUA 787-9, mostly operating LAX-NRT/PVG. I believe the last two 789 frames are headed to the UA sub, as well.

The rest of the 789s (950-967) and all 788s are with the sCO side. sCO also has the 2 cabin 772ER and 764 fleets. Besides the 5, soon to be 7 789, sUA has the 77W, 3-cabin 772ER, 772A and 763.
 
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Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:34 pm

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codc10 wrote:
fun2fly wrote:
It looks like all the 3 class 763's are now based in ORD. I'm sure the LHR/AMS/CDG/BRU travelers are underwhelmed daily.


With only 7 ships in service pending Polaris mods, it won't be for very long.


The summer schedule (looking at late June) appears to only need 4 3-class frames, with probably one spare at ORD. The routes are 3x ORD-LHR plus 1x EWR-LHR. So I'd expect two more of those 7 frames to go in for mods before the summer.


3 class 763 N655UA should be done in HKG any day now as it arrived 12/8. If it's replaced, that would leave 6 units. Looking forward, end of Q1 is reasonable for the other two units to swap out which would support your theory of only 4 left for summer.
 
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Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:26 pm

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738:
N87527 entered HOU 2771/11Feb, hopefully for slimlines


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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:28 pm

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The summer schedule (looking at late June) appears to only need 4 3-class frames, with probably one spare at ORD. The routes are 3x ORD-LHR plus 1x EWR-LHR. So I'd expect two more of those 7 frames to go in for mods before the summer.


So ORD-LHR will be the last route to get Polaris moded 767s? I'm scheduled to do that Aug 31-Sep 14. Was looking forward to comparing the 767 to the 777W.
 
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Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:55 pm

Question: are the 789s still split into two subfleets - each one operated exclusively by either sUA or sCO FAs? If so, what is the split? Are they allocated to certain routes only?[/quote]

968-972 (currently in service) are sUA 787-9, mostly operating LAX-NRT/PVG. I believe the last two 789 frames are headed to the UA sub, as well.

The rest of the 789s (950-967) and all 788s are with the sCO side. sCO also has the 2 cabin 772ER and 764 fleets. Besides the 5, soon to be 7 789, sUA has the 77W, 3-cabin 772ER, 772A and 763.[/quote]


Slightly off topic, but to me it seems insane that after all the time that has passed since the merger (is it 5 years ? ), United still can't capitalize on the economy of scale by operating a single fleet.
 
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Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:31 pm

It gets combined in October.
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Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:06 pm

New delivery. 787-9 N24973 CHS-IAD flight 2686 for induction
 
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Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:17 pm

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Slightly off topic, but to me it seems insane that after all the time that has passed since the merger (is it 5 years ? ), United still can't capitalize on the economy of scale by operating a single fleet.


I am sure others can comment, but I believe UA is implementing a new crew scheduling system as the existing systems would not support the combined requirements. Anyone who knows about these types of systems, it is not a short implementation.
Not only do they have to build it and go through the normal testing, but then they need to test and get sign-off from the union that it is working as intended (to prevent potential union agreement violations). It all takes time, now I am not saying that it should take this long, just giving context.

I do think one of the major delays was that they did not even start this process until after they had a fully executed agreement, with all the T&C's built, that takes months after the announcement of an agreement by Oscar.
The big fanfare when you announce an agreement is really not the end of the contract process it is a big hurdle but it could go months (I have experienced years) after with lawyers billing hours to write the exact language that is in the final executed contract.
 
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Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:37 pm

738:
N87527 entered HOU 2771/11FEb for slimlines
N76528 sked to exit LCQ 2796/13Feb with slimlines
N77520 expected to enter LCQ for last 738 to need slimlines, not sked yet

789:
N24974 first flight BOE191/12Feb at CHS

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N769UA exited XMN 2804/13Feb
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Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:57 pm

ordbosewr wrote:
Johnv707 wrote:
Slightly off topic, but to me it seems insane that after all the time that has passed since the merger (is it 5 years ? ), United still can't capitalize on the economy of scale by operating a single fleet.


I am sure others can comment, but I believe UA is implementing a new crew scheduling system as the existing systems would not support the combined requirements. Anyone who knows about these types of systems, it is not a short implementation.
Not only do they have to build it and go through the normal testing, but then they need to test and get sign-off from the union that it is working as intended (to prevent potential union agreement violations). It all takes time, now I am not saying that it should take this long, just giving context.

I do think one of the major delays was that they did not even start this process until after they had a fully executed agreement, with all the T&C's built, that takes months after the announcement of an agreement by Oscar.
The big fanfare when you announce an agreement is really not the end of the contract process it is a big hurdle but it could go months (I have experienced years) after with lawyers billing hours to write the exact language that is in the final executed contract.

And let us not forget the 2 big incidents that AA has had with pilot scheduling systems that have accidentally let all the pilots have holidays off and the headaches for everyone trying to fix it. UA, take your time, get it right!
 
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Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:02 pm

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New delivery. 787-9 N24973 CHS-IAD flight 2686 for induction

If it ever leaves CHS, delayed due ‘Operational Difficulties’

N24974 Had C1 yesterday 12Feb and C2 today. Bet this one goes to SEA for induction.
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Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:49 pm

This is off topic, but can anyone make a quick seatmap for the 747 had UA retrofitted them with the new Polaris?
 
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Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:53 am

N105UA was "Sold" and ferried to Maxton, North Carolina. Think its due to the scrapper? Her last flight was October 29th, 2017 SFO-VCV.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N10 ... /KVCV/KMEB
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:54 am

redrooster3 wrote:
N105UA was "Sold" and ferried to Maxton, North Carolina. Think its due to the scrapper? Her last flight was October 29th, 2017 SFO-VCV.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N10 ... /KVCV/KMEB

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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:09 pm

Let’s try this again. New delivery N24973 ferry CHS-IAD 15 February for induction 787-9
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:41 pm

According to United.com, N24973 arrived IAD 6 hours late yesterday 2686/13Feb

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N658UA exited VQQ 2781/14Feb

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N66057 exited MCO 2770/13Feb
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UA 1175/13Feb, operated by N773UA had the right engine cowling break off midflight SFO-HNL. Landed safely in HNL about 20 minutes late. Track shows it dropped altitude about 60% of the way to HNL, then regainjed altitude. Unsure if the engine was shutd down, but regaining altitude may indicate the engine as still running. Aircraft had returned to the gate and last flight previous was a SFO arrival on 2/7/18. http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/3749 ... lu-airport
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:50 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
772:
UA 1175/13Feb, operated by N773UA had the right engine cowling break off midflight SFO-HNL. Landed safely in HNL about 20 minutes late. Track shows it dropped altitude about 60% of the way to HNL, then regainjed altitude. Unsure if the engine was shutd down, but regaining altitude may indicate the engine as still running. Aircraft had returned to the gate and last flight previous was a SFO arrival on 2/7/18. http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/3749 ... lu-airport


Failure occurred much later in flight, about 40 min out of HNL. Track chart is with rapid descent and landing after the failure.

I am guessing the failure occurred around TOD when power setting is changed to initiate descent.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:50 pm

Thanks, I had just looked at the altitude and the aircraft was shown to descend about 6K feet a little after halfway to HNL. I see I posted the wrong video. I wonder if something wasn't closed tightly as the aircraft had been in SFO for 6 days. http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/3749 ... us-airport
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Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:36 am

calpsafltskeds wrote:
Thanks, I had just looked at the altitude and the aircraft was shown to descend about 6K feet a little after halfway to HNL. I see I posted the wrong video. I wonder if something wasn't closed tightly as the aircraft had been in SFO for 6 days. http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/3749 ... us-airport


Several fan blades were damaged with at least one liberated. An open cowling door wouldn’t cause the loss of the nose cowl and blade damage. This was in the ballpark of a catastrophic failure. No BS.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:06 am

How does an airline like United select the locations for their refits, ala: Polaris? Why international centers and not domestic? Do these particular centers specialize in aircraft maintenance and refitting, is selection via a bidding process or something else?
I would assume the global logistics from each of the suppliers to each center and scheduling of aircraft must be a huge job.
It must be fun- for those people who love logistics it must be a dream- I’ve known people in these kinds of “efficiency jobs” who totally get off on pulling hundreds/thousands of parts, pieces, shipping, scheduling, spreadsheets and managing human capital all together so the end the result is perfect on time and on budget- their reward feeling the achievement way surpasses the money!
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