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Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:07 pm

As posted above - the gains for Airbus are not just the weight reduction.
 
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Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:10 am

MSN 181 (TG#9) was moved to the delivery centre this morning.
 
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Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:15 am

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Well, MSN 179 CI #11 is on its first CAF (AIB03NX) this morning.


Some wrong numbers within FR24, but I think MSN 179 is visible with it's final registration:
https://www.flightradar24.com/CPA178/10350cc9

From the production list it should be B-18913 but FR is showing B-18915
 
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Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:22 am

BobMUC wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
Well, MSN 179 CI #11 is on its first CAF (AIB03NX) this morning.


Some wrong numbers within FR24, but I think MSN 179 is visible with it's final registration:
https://www.flightradar24.com/CPA178/10350cc9

From the production list it should be B-18913 but FR is showing B-18915


It's likely right cause 18913 and 18914 are likely skipped.

Does anyone here know when CI has to exercise the 6 options?
 
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Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:25 am

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Interesting ETOPs limited at this stage ....I wonder if engine issues have been the reason at least in part to sluggish test programme in recent weeks?


IMU EASA does not give complimentary ETOPS extensions like the FAA does for Boeing.
They all start small and get expanded with real use experience coming in.
AFAIR the A359/TXWB84 also got stepped ETOPS expansion.


OT and Apropos: is there some holdback from EASA on the Boeing style articulated overhead bins?
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Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:47 am

MSN 180 ET #7 is ready for its first CAF: https://fr24.com/AIB04FX/103532c8

MSN 183 MH #3 is ready for its first flight: https://fr24.com/AIB01GA/10353513
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Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:14 pm

Nice to see -1000 XV working today with medium altitude sortie. As has full cabin fit rumoured visits eastwards could be on? However final stages to EIS are taking rather longer than expected.
 
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Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:21 pm

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Nice to see -1000 XV working today with medium altitude sortie. As has full cabin fit rumoured visits eastwards could be on? However final stages to EIS are taking rather longer than expected.


Rumoured to be issues with the QATAR specific qsuite seats.
 
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Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:07 pm

coolfish1103 wrote:
BobMUC wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
Well, MSN 179 CI #11 is on its first CAF (AIB03NX) this morning.


Some wrong numbers within FR24, but I think MSN 179 is visible with it's final registration:
https://www.flightradar24.com/CPA178/10350cc9

From the production list it should be B-18913 but FR is showing B-18915


It's likely right cause 18913 and 18914 are likely skipped.

Does anyone here know when CI has to exercise the 6 options?

Per interview with CI exec I saw somewhere options need to be exercised sometime 2018.
They got up to 24 A333s to replace by mid next decade. Cant wait to see what they will do, undoubtedly more A350s but maybe some A330neo?
 
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Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:46 pm

MSN174 (LH#7) has been squawking its final registration D-AIXG for a while now... Wonder why it's still sitting in TLS...
 
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Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:01 pm

MSN 179 CI #11 is going home: https://fr24.com/CAL1710/1035e27c
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Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:43 pm

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MSN 179 CI #11 is going home: https://fr24.com/CAL1710/1035e27c

Excellent news! And it only took 23 days to get the first A350 delivered in 2018! LOL!
 
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Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:14 pm

While not yet reported, MSN 177 TG #8 made a CAF yesterday.
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Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:23 pm

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Per interview with CI exec I saw somewhere options need to be exercised sometime 2018.
They got up to 24 A333s to replace by mid next decade. Cant wait to see what they will do, undoubtedly more A350s but maybe some A330neo?


I would expect the 22 747 to be retired before they start on the A330.
 
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Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:52 pm

ap305 wrote:
http://www.reuters.com/article/qatar-airways-airbus-a350/update-1-qatar-airways-says-delivery-of-first-airbus-a350-1000-delayed-until-next-month-idUSL8N1PH26I

The “complex seat configuration” has had implications on the certification of the aircraft, though the airline had taken ownership of the aircraft late last year, Baker said, without giving details.



Looks like the qsuite has for some reason is affected on the -1000 and not the -900. Qr also saying they contractually took the aircraft last year.


StTim wrote:
MSN132 was stated by Airbus as delivered (as in title transferred) in their numbers for 2017 but with delayed delivery due to post "delivery" work on the Qsuite. So I think it has affected both versions.


Qsuite is a difficult product. Even 77W deliveries were delayed by up to 2 months due to longer than expected certification of the cabin.
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Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:02 pm

MSN 98 JD #1 has been parked nearby the A380 halls, away from the flight line.

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Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:20 pm

MSN 206, Cathay's 4th A350-1000, emerged from final assembly. Given that MSN 200/201/202 just emerged from final assembly, MSN 206 is clearly ahead of sequence.

At the back we can notice MSN 167 CA #1 that got its engines removed.

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Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:39 pm

mjoelnir wrote:
trex8 wrote:
Per interview with CI exec I saw somewhere options need to be exercised sometime 2018.
They got up to 24 A333s to replace by mid next decade. Cant wait to see what they will do, undoubtedly more A350s but maybe some A330neo?


I would expect the 22 747 to be retired before they start on the A330.



OT
18 of those 22 747s are freighters. I didn't expect the pax ones to stay much longer but at least one of the 4 pax 744s (the youngest) just was in mx for a month, maybe a heavy check so the pax ones may be around for at least a few years. But yes Id love to know what they would replace them with. The oldest freighter (2000 delivery) are probably at the end of their 2nd heavy check lives, the youngest (2006) due for one soon. 3 of the oldest freighters were parked before getting a 2nd heavy check in 2012, might swap them back into fleet after a 2nd heavy check to replace those needing a 3rd check.

Their earliest A333s from 2004 went through a heavy check in 2016 so could be around at least another 6years. Most of their owned ones (12) will need a heavy check by end 2019. The newest A333s on 12 year leases are all up to lease end from the early to mid 2020s. At least 4 leased ones will need heavy check in next 2 years. I dont see them keeping the owned ones and getting a 3rd heavy check and I dont see the leased ones getting a 2nd heavy check and staying with CI.

There are also reports the Taiwan CAA will implement new regulations limiting the life of airliners. Doubtful CI will be able to keep any beyond 2 decades like other carriers might. As it is they broke their "promise" to not keep any planes beyond 10 years after CI611.

I could see the 10 77Ws whose first lease is up 2026 getting replaced with -1000s along with the 4 pax 744s which may be replaced sooner than the 77Ws. This doesnt even take into account increasing fleet size just keeping it stable and replacing one for one.

If A needs an A338neo customer I see CI as a good one, they have nothing between a 738 and A333/A359. They arent likely to start getting 788s having committed to A330/340 and now A350.
 
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Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:53 am

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Still only 120 minutes at this time - compared to 405 minutes for the XWB84

This is interesting. I wonder if anything is related to the Trent Ten? Note, I ask, I do not know the details.

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Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:45 am

MSN 114 has been moved to Station 20 for cabin furnishing.

At least 3 Qatar A350s are out of storage and undergoing cabin furnishing: MSN 100, 114, 143.

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Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:33 pm

MSN 182 DL #7 is on the way back to TLS after paint in XFW: https://fr24.com/AIB03FW/10383a18

MSN 190 DL #8 has rolled out to the flight line (visible at FR24).
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Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:41 pm

WIederling wrote:
BOAC1966 wrote:
Interesting ETOPs limited at this stage ....I wonder if engine issues have been the reason at least in part to sluggish test programme in recent weeks?


IMU EASA does not give complimentary ETOPS extensions like the FAA does for Boeing.
They all start small and get expanded with real use experience coming in.
AFAIR the A359/TXWB84 also got stepped ETOPS expansion.


OT and Apropos: is there some holdback from EASA on the Boeing style articulated overhead bins?


Airbus got ETOPS370 for the A359 from EASA before EIS (http://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-re ... etops.html).

You have to also keep in mind that the A359 is the first new passenger jet Airbus built that had ETOPS requirements since 1997 (the A332), which of course predates EASA and is going back to JAA regulations. All new Airbus pax jets launched between 1997 and 2013 (A350's first flight) had 4 engines.
 
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Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:45 pm

WIederling wrote:
IMU EASA does not give complimentary ETOPS extensions like the FAA does for Boeing. They all start small and get expanded with real use experience coming in. AFAIR the A359/TXWB84 also got stepped ETOPS expansion.

Polot wrote:
Airbus got ETOPS370 for the A359 from EASA before EIS (http://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-re ... etops.html).


The FAA also required in-service data before extending ETOPS time limits for both the 777 and 787. Both models entered service with 180 minute limits (the 777 was later extended to 207 minutes under the 180 rules after in-service data had been collected) and were then later extended again to 330 minutes (again after in-service data had been collected).
 
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Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:22 am

MSN 185 (TG#10) completed initial engine run this morning.
 
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Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:11 am

MSN 174 LH #7 will be flying home on Friday.
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Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:17 am

Stitch wrote:
WIederling wrote:
IMU EASA does not give complimentary ETOPS extensions like the FAA does for Boeing. They all start small and get expanded with real use experience coming in. AFAIR the A359/TXWB84 also got stepped ETOPS expansion.

Polot wrote:
Airbus got ETOPS370 for the A359 from EASA before EIS (http://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-re ... etops.html).


The FAA also required in-service data before extending ETOPS time limits for both the 777 and 787. Both models entered service with 180 minute limits (the 777 was later extended to 207 minutes under the 180 rules after in-service data had been collected) and were then later extended again to 330 minutes (again after in-service data had been collected).


The 777 got the first out of the box 180 ETOPS ever supplied by the FAA. At that time all other twins had to work up to 180.
 
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Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:50 pm

MSN 88 4th flight after cabin work & paint: https://fr24.com/AIB04NR/103ad4d2

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Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:21 pm

MSN 196 ET #8 is currently online at the flight line.
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Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:47 am

-1000 F-WLXV as AIB349 en route to Doha ..the tour starts possibly finishing at SIN Airshow?
 
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Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:49 am

MSN 177 TG#8 visible with final registration: HS-THJ
https://www.flightradar24.com/THA177/103cf36c
 
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-1000 F-WLXV as AIB349 en route to Doha ..the tour starts possibly finishing at SIN Airshow?


The aircraft will continue to Australia.
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Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:56 am

G'day

Press release from Airbus

http://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-re ... asia-.html

The itinerary will see it travel over 30,000 nautical miles / 55,500 kilometres, with stops in Doha, Muscat, Hong Kong, Seoul, Taipei, Hanoi, Singapore, Bangkok, Sydney, Auckland, Tokyo and Manila.

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Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:13 pm

MSN 184 LH #8 is off for another test flight: https://fr24.com/AIB03GR/103d5107
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Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:21 pm

MSN 191 CI #12 has rolled out to the flight line.
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Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:52 am

QR will only take 4 A350-1000 this year. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-qata ... SKBN1FG07G

Four :hissyfit:

Going with our (unofficial) production list from https://sites.google.com/site/a350xwbpr ... ction-list I count 10 to be assembled this year or already assembled. MSN 88, 102, 110, 125, 141, 161, 215, 229, 241, 262. This BS with parked QR planes in Toulouse will never end. :banghead:
 
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Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:39 am

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QR will only take 4 A350-1000 this year. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-qata ... SKBN1FG07G

Four :hissyfit:

Going with our (unofficial) production list from https://sites.google.com/site/a350xwbpr ... ction-list I count 10 to be assembled this year or already assembled. MSN 88, 102, 110, 125, 141, 161, 215, 229, 241, 262. This BS with parked QR planes in Toulouse will never end. :banghead:


I read it as 4 A350-1000s, not 4 A350s.
 
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Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:52 am

There are already more than four built. In fact I see 6 QATAR frames already built with more scheduled for the rest of the year.
 
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fsabo wrote:
mat66 wrote:
QR will only take 4 A350-1000 this year. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-qata ... SKBN1FG07G

Four :hissyfit:

Going with our (unofficial) production list from https://sites.google.com/site/a350xwbpr ... ction-list I count 10 to be assembled this year or already assembled. MSN 88, 102, 110, 125, 141, 161, 215, 229, 241, 262. This BS with parked QR planes in Toulouse will never end. :banghead:


I read it as 4 A350-1000s, not 4 A350s.


Those 10 MSN are just the A350-1000 for QR. I left out the A350-900 on the production list for 2018.
 
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Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:58 am

¿Why is in production the msn225 before the msn219 of IB?
 
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mat66 wrote:
QR will only take 4 A350-1000 this year. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-qata ... SKBN1FG07G

Four :hissyfit:

Going with our (unofficial) production list from https://sites.google.com/site/a350xwbpr ... ction-list I count 10 to be assembled this year or already assembled. MSN 88, 102, 110, 125, 141, 161, 215, 229, 241, 262. This BS with parked QR planes in Toulouse will never end. :banghead:


of those 10, only 6 are in assembly or assembled. 215, 229, 241 and 262 could be deferred.
 
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Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:09 pm

MSN 177 TG #8 has been delivered on is currently on the way to BKK.

Airbus A350 -941 177 HS-THJ Thai International delivery 27jan18 TLS-BKK ex F-WZGC


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Initial engine run for MSN 187 (HX#4) this morning.
 
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Next flight for MSN 88: https://fr24.com/AIB05NR/104496b4
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MSN 192 VN #11 has rolled out from paint.

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Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:25 pm

MSN 185 (TG#10) completed its first flight earlier today (#AIB01IW)
 
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Initial engine run for MSN 189 (TG#11) this morning.
And second flight for MSN 186 (SQ#21) #AIB02TW.
 
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MSN 183 MH #3 is going for a 2nd flight as well: https://fr24.com/AIB02GA/104709a2
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Does anyone know how many A359s Lufthansa will receive this year?
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