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Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:52 pm
by flee
I would like to take this brief respite in deliveries to wish our hardworking KarelXWB a Happy New Year! Your contributions are much appreciated and thanks for keeping us informed here on A.Net. Have a great 2018!

Re: Airbus A350 Production And Delivery Thread - Part 17

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:29 pm
by Geoff1947
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flee wrote:
I would like to take this brief respite in deliveries to wish our hardworking KarelXWB a Happy New Year! Your contributions are much appreciated and thanks for keeping us informed here on A.Net. Have a great 2018!


And from me too. We’d be much poorer without Karel’s great information.

Geoff

Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:45 pm
by SQ22
With the new year it is on time to open a new thread.

Link to previous thread:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=607139

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 5:40 pm
by BOEING777EK
Whats the A350 delivery target for Airbus this year?

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 5:42 pm
by Geoff1947
So we no longer have a thread to discuss 2017 deliveries then !

Geoff

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 5:45 pm
by SQ22
Geoff1947 wrote:
So we no longer have a thread to discuss 2017 deliveries then !

Geoff


Well I think we can discuss the remaining 2017 delivieries in this thread, that should not be an issue.

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:42 pm
by bycac
Happy new year !!!

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Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:12 pm
by MoKa777
Thanks for keeping this going! I look forward to more information coming to light about the -1000 with testing and certification almost done and operational service on the horizon.

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:26 pm
by Waterbomber
Could someone share an estimated timeline on the first JL A359, ie final assembly, first flight, delivery?
Thanks.

That Air China looks great.

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:12 am
by Cebo29
Check the A350 production website on line...your answer lies there...enjoy

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:23 am
by carljanderson
Waterbomber wrote:
Could someone share an estimated timeline on the first JL A359, ie final assembly, first flight, delivery?
Thanks.

That Air China looks great.


https://sites.google.com/site/a350xwbpr ... ction-list

MSN321.

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:01 am
by 777Mech
Just an update on the upcoming DL deliveries, MSN 182 is scheuled to deliver to ATL on Feb 15th, MSN 190 on Feb 28th, and MSN 199 on Mar 31st.

Looking onward, the 12th delivery won't be until February of 2019.

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:51 am
by BobMUC
Haven't seen it posted:
A very nice documentary bye PilotsEye.tv of Lufthansa's first A350 flight from MUC to BOS including many recordings about the A350 production processes/facilities, test center, etc.

Video 1 of 10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drlbdusJqgs

Happy New Year to everybody!

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:16 am
by tvh
Counting msn 60 as delivered in dec 2017 I see 9 delivered in december for a total of 78.
First time I see december not being the best month of the year, which could be seen as progress.
Though airbus would have liked delivering more to qatar and china for sure. :D

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:17 am
by KarelXWB
tvh wrote:
First time I see december not being the best month of the year, which could be seen as progress.


Yes, it seems some A350s were offloaded in November already.

Still, for Airbus in general, December 2017 is a new record month with more than 110 civil aircraft deliveries.

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:18 am
by StTim
Interesting the quick speedtape repair on the fairing. Does that impact departure reliability?

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:43 am
by StTim
Does anyone know what the test flying for the ULR will be? Does the first frame require significant test instrumentation? How many flying hours will be required?

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:02 pm
by TheLion
bycac wrote:
Happy new year !!!

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That actually looks like a Dreamliner, somehow! It’s the livery which tricks the eye...

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:22 pm
by Geoff1947
KarelXWB wrote:
tvh wrote:
First time I see december not being the best month of the year, which could be seen as progress.


Yes, it seems some A350s were offloaded in November already.

Still, for Airbus in general, December 2017 is a new record month with more than 110 civil aircraft deliveries.


As Airbus are headed for 10/month during 2018, the November and December numbers should become the norm. At least I’m hopeful there won’t be a January slump this year.

Geoff

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:28 pm
by StTim
I think January will be less than par - BUT it will be a few more than the one delivered in January last year. There are many more in the advanced stages of testing on the flightline.

My forecast (guess) would be 6 to 7.

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:19 pm
by KarelXWB
According to @A350_Production on Twitter, China Eastern Airlines will configure its A350s as follows:

- 4 First Class Suites (1-2-1)
- 36 Business Class (1-2-1)
- 32 Premium Economy (2-4-2)
- 216 Economy (3-3-3)

Total: 288 seats


Via https://twitter.com/A350_Production/sta ... 1387509760

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:28 pm
by Jayafe
KarelXWB wrote:
...
- 4 First Class Suites (1-2-1)
- 36 Business Class (1-2-1)
...


Am I missing the logic?

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:26 pm
by KarelXWB
Jayafe wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
...
- 4 First Class Suites (1-2-1)
- 36 Business Class (1-2-1)
...


Am I missing the logic?


Similar to Malaysia Airlines' A350 First/Business class cabin I guess.

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:32 pm
by Revelation
MoKa777 wrote:
Thanks for keeping this going! I look forward to more information coming to light about the -1000 with testing and certification almost done and operational service on the horizon.


EASA certifies higher-weight A350-1000 -- https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... 000-444543

311t version is now certified.

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:41 pm
by MoKa777
Jayafe wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
...
- 4 First Class Suites (1-2-1)
- 36 Business Class (1-2-1)
...


Am I missing the logic?


Pretty "normal" if you think about it.

SQ has had 1-2-1 in both F and J on their 77W for a decade.

EY has the same arrangement.

F is full-sized 1-2-1 and J is more dense and creative (think staggered, herringbone, etc.) 1-2-1.

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:08 pm
by MoKa777
Revelation wrote:
MoKa777 wrote:
Thanks for keeping this going! I look forward to more information coming to light about the -1000 with testing and certification almost done and operational service on the horizon.


EASA certifies higher-weight A350-1000 -- https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... 000-444543

311t version is now certified.


Thanks for the link, Revelation.

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:25 pm
by Arion640
Jayafe wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
...
- 4 First Class Suites (1-2-1)
- 36 Business Class (1-2-1)
...


Am I missing the logic?


EK had this till recently and it's still presenr on the A380.

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:53 pm
by Eyad89
StTim wrote:
I think January will be less than par - BUT it will be a few more than the one delivered in January last year. There are many more in the advanced stages of testing on the flightline.

My forecast (guess) would be 6 to 7.



And the delivery of the first A35K is pretty much a given as well in this month. So I guess they should easily deliver more than 6.

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:21 am
by redcap1962
Editing my TLS-photos from last September I came across a mismatch between msn & F-reg. on a Cathay-A350:

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According to all sources F-WZNO would be msn 155, but msn 154 would be F-WZNQ.... :roll:

Can somebody shed some light on this and figure out which aircraft this actually is? Photo taken on Sept. 25, 2017.

THX, redcap1962

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:23 am
by KarelXWB
MSN 154 = F-WZNQ
MSN 155 = F-WZNO

Sometimes, the wrong test registration is applied to the fuselage during assembly. It gets fixed before first flight. Here is a photo of MSN 154 with correct registration F-WZNQ:

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F-WZNQ Airbus A350 Cathay Pacific, first flight by @Eurospot, on Flickr

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:33 am
by frigatebird
KarelXWB wrote:
MSN 154 = F-WZNQ
MSN 155 = F-WZNO

Sometimes, the wrong test registration is applied to the fuselage during assembly. It gets fixed before first flight. Here is a photo of MSN 154 with correct registration F-WZNQ:

Image
F-WZNQ Airbus A350 Cathay Pacific, first flight by @Eurospot, on Flickr


Fortunately an easy fix, just add some black tape to the letter O :lol:

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:22 am
by scotron11
Cannot wait to see the 1st CX A350-1000 roll out and 1st flight! Their livery on the A350 looks great!

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:00 pm
by itisi
scotron11 wrote:
Cannot wait to see the 1st CX A350-1000 roll out and 1st flight! Their livery on the A350 looks great!


Agreed, then again the 350 is such a good looking plane it's hard to look bad!! The one I like least has to be QR.....

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:09 pm
by Slug71
Things have been pretty quiet on the -1000 front again. Wonder if MSN 88 required some software updates following the visit to MKE by one of the test aircraft.
According to the production list, 8 A35Ks should be out of the FAL already.

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:24 pm
by BOAC1966
Yes very slow with little test flying and Qatar -1000 whipped off for more rework. After what appeared to be a good test programme there are bound to be the odd hicup! It was interesting they needed that MKE visit lasting over a week. Three weeks to month end and a delivery!

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:24 pm
by KarelXWB
MSN 184 LH #8 has rolled out to the flight line.

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:37 pm
by hkcanadaexpat
MSN 181 (TG#9) is firing its engines for the first time this afternoon.
Conflicting reports about the same for MSN 180 (ET#7) this morning and MSN 182 (DL#7) yesterday.

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:57 pm
by StTim
It seems the holidays are over in TLS.

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:39 pm
by scotron11
Interesting to note that CX has stated their intentions of where their A350-1000s will be flying but not a peep out of QR.

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:59 pm
by KarelXWB
StTim wrote:
I think January will be less than par - BUT it will be a few more than the one delivered in January last year.


Not really difficult to beat that single delivery of January 2017.

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:47 am
by RichardWelling
scotron11 wrote:
Interesting to note that CX has stated their intentions of where their A350-1000s will be flying but not a peep out of QR.


My guess it will be LHR or FRA/MUC like when the A359 was released.

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:16 am
by KarelXWB
MSN 197 VN #12 and MSN 198 OZ #5 parked outside the assembly halls, undergoing outdoor ground tests at Stations 18:

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https://www.facebook.com/groups/Toulous ... tSpotting/

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:19 am
by KarelXWB
MSN 180 ET #7 has been named "Gelada Baboon".

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Flightline by theo franchi, on Flickr

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:46 am
by KarelXWB
MSN 182 DL #7 first flight: https://fr24.com/AIB01FW/10097fa5

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:05 pm
by KarelXWB
MSN 179 CI #11 second flight: https://fr24.com/AIB02NX/10098559

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:06 pm
by Eyad89
KarelXWB wrote:
StTim wrote:
I think January will be less than par - BUT it will be a few more than the one delivered in January last year.


Not really difficult to beat that single delivery of January 2017.



LOL, can’t argue with that.

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:41 pm
by FromCDGtoSYD
RichardWelling wrote:
scotron11 wrote:
Interesting to note that CX has stated their intentions of where their A350-1000s will be flying but not a peep out of QR.


My guess it will be LHR or FRA/MUC like when the A359 was released.


Or CDG

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:11 pm
by hkcanadaexpat
MSN 177 (TG#8) just completed its RTO.

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:34 pm
by FA9295
itisi wrote:
scotron11 wrote:
Cannot wait to see the 1st CX A350-1000 roll out and 1st flight! Their livery on the A350 looks great!


Agreed, then again the 350 is such a good looking plane it's hard to look bad!! The one I like least has to be QR.....

That's probably because QR was the first to obtain the A350, so everyone wants to see newer A350 liveries instead... :smile:

Re: Airbus A350 production and delivery thread - 2018

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:13 pm
by marcelh
FA9295 wrote:
....so everyone wants to see newer A350 liveries instead... :smile:

KLM...... :cloudnine: